Recommended by Ricochet Members Created with Sketch. Florida Man with Comorbidities Says ‘End the Lockdown’

 

I agree with @seawriter: end the lockdown. Although I’m not a young man, I’m not in the age group for which the novel coronavirus is a serious threat. But I (lucky me) have some of the comorbidities that put me in the high-risk category.

  • High blood pressure? Check.
  • Type II Diabetes? Check. Well, actually I dieted my way out of diabetes and have slid back into “pre-diabetic” status. Still, I’m counting it. (Thanks US Government food pyramid, which I followed rigorously! Thanks for establishing dietary guidelines that almost guarantee diabetes. Don’t worry, though. I’m sure that’s just a one-off. I so trust your virus guidelines)
  • I am obese, at least according to the US Government (junk science) standard of the Body Mass Index (BMI). Of course, I’m in good company; by BMI standards, every professional athlete in the NFL, NBA, and MLB is either obese or morbidly obese. This (junk science) means of calculating–what? Weight health? Health by pound?–doesn’t take body composition into account. Great standard to use, there, USG. Between your (junk science) BMI and your food pyramid, you’re about batting 1,000, aren’t you? So willing to let you turn my life on and off (Clap on, clap off!) with your guidance, direction, and determination.

According to US Government (CDC) standards, I am at a high risk of dying if I get the ‘Rona.

Don’t care, open it up. Open it with fanfare and parades and pipers piping. Hardpoint our vulnerable populations. Then let’s get on with life.

Let me tell you how fervently I believe we need to end the lockdown: I went to work yesterday (yay!) and had a long talk with a brother about whether we should shutdown the lockdown. He was skeptical about the whole way we are doing business (with shutdown shenanigans) but, as to a full reopening, he honestly stated “I’m not there, yet.”

Then he asked me, maybe it was supposed to be a “gotcha” question, “Would you go to a gym, right now?”

Brother, I’d go to a dojo right now and do some close grappling for two hours with 20 total strangers.

Open. Up.

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  1. Arahant Member

    Boss Mongo: Brother, I’d go to a dojo right now and do some close grappling for two hours with 20 total strangers.

    Boss Mongo: “I’m not there, yet.”

    In fact, I’ve never been there, but I am all for ending the lockdown, unfortunately Dear Leader Nurse Ratched of Michigan has just extended ours until 12 JUN, and if we do not improve our morale, she will extend it further until Joe Biden selects her as his VP nominee.

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    • May 22, 2020, at 6:13 PM PDT
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  2. Al French of Damascus Moderator

    I’m 74, have hypertension (controlled by medication) and am taking an immune suppressant drug. I’m going to the gym the day they open, now scheduled for June 1.

    Open. Up.

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    • May 22, 2020, at 6:16 PM PDT
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  3. RightAngles Member

    You are not obese haha! I agree with everything else though. Open it UP.

    • #3
    • May 22, 2020, at 6:17 PM PDT
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  4. Richard Easton Member

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Boss Mongo: Brother, I’d go to a dojo right now and do some close grappling for two hours with 20 total strangers.

    Boss Mongo: “I’m not there, yet.”

    In fact, I’ve never been there, but I am all for ending the lockdown, unfortunately Dear Leader Nurse Ratched of Michigan has just extended ours until 12 JUN, and if we do not improve our morale, she will extend it further until Joe Biden selects her as his VP nominee.

    Sounds like it will be extended to the day after never. Meanwhile, reports are that her hubby is at their second house. Some pigs are more equal than others.

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    • May 22, 2020, at 6:18 PM PDT
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  5. PHCheese Member

    I religiously went to the gym but I too fit the bill for high risk. I gave up my membership and got a Total Gym and a Stepper for my garage. My neighbors call it the Joenasium since my name is really Joe not Cheese. I’ll tell you after an hour and a half on those my ass is kicked. I do miss the pretty girls at the regular gym but the drive is a lot shorter and I am no longer tempted to stop for ice cream on the way home.

    • #5
    • May 22, 2020, at 6:36 PM PDT
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  6. Boss Mongo Member
    Boss Mongo

    PHCheese (View Comment):
    since my name is really Joe not Cheese

    The hell you say!!

    PHCheese (View Comment):
    I religiously went to the gym but I too fit the bill for high risk. I gave up my membership and got a Total Gym and a Stepper for my garage.

    Me, too. I haven’t belonged to a gym in, well, forever. I’ve got an eclectic collection of kettlebells, maces and clubs, all of which seem imbued with malevolent spirits that love to laugh at me and my puny efforts. And, you don’t need a membership for nothin’ to do pushups.

    I think it’s not that I want to go to a gym, it’s that I chafe at being told I can’t go to a gym.

    • #6
    • May 22, 2020, at 6:49 PM PDT
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  7. Arahant Member

    Richard Easton (View Comment):
    Meanwhile, reports are that her hubby is at their second house. Some pigs are more equal than others.

    Sure, and notice how great her hair looks? My wife is not at all pleased.

    • #7
    • May 22, 2020, at 6:55 PM PDT
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  8. Boss Mongo Member
    Boss Mongo

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Richard Easton (View Comment):
    Meanwhile, reports are that her hubby is at their second house. Some pigs are more equal than others.

    Sure, and notice how great her hair looks? My wife is not at all pleased.

    Yes and, notice how her roots look? ‘Cause Ima tell you what, every other woman in her age group that’s not a total granola crunchy gets her roots done, frequently.

    • #8
    • May 22, 2020, at 6:59 PM PDT
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  9. Arahant Member

    Boss Mongo (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Richard Easton (View Comment):
    Meanwhile, reports are that her hubby is at their second house. Some pigs are more equal than others.

    Sure, and notice how great her hair looks? My wife is not at all pleased.

    Yes and, notice how her roots look? ‘Cause Ima tell you what, every other woman in her age group that’s not a total granola crunchy gets her roots done, frequently.

    Trust me, my wife is telling me all about it every day. She’s going through far more of her root touch-up powder thanks to Dear Leader Gretchen.

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    • May 22, 2020, at 8:13 PM PDT
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  10. Quietpi Member

    For a long time when I was young, I was classified as overweight by the height – weight charts in use at the time. That’s because the charts stopped at 6′, and I didn’t.

    • #10
    • May 22, 2020, at 8:25 PM PDT
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  11. OmegaPaladin Moderator

    Boss, you don’t actually explain why you are so eager to end the lockdown. After all, you are in Florida, not Michigan – that version of lockdown is not nearly as bad – and unlike Seawriter you don’t cite the new CDC info or other details. I can guess, but I figured you could explain why you are that passionate to end the lockdown.

    I think it has served its purpose, but I’m not eager to jump into a mosh pit or otherwise deliberately get exposed.

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    • May 22, 2020, at 9:05 PM PDT
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  12. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge

    I sort of like working from home. Can we keep this part of the lock down?

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    • May 22, 2020, at 10:11 PM PDT
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  13. The Reticulator Member

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    I sort of like working from home. Can we keep this part of the lock down?

     I’m all in favor of keeping you locked down. 

    • #13
    • May 23, 2020, at 2:15 AM PDT
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  14. EODmom Coolidge

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Boss Mongo (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Richard Easton (View Comment):
    Meanwhile, reports are that her hubby is at their second house. Some pigs are more equal than others.

    Sure, and notice how great her hair looks? My wife is not at all pleased.

    Yes and, notice how her roots look? ‘Cause Ima tell you what, every other woman in her age group that’s not a total granola crunchy gets her roots done, frequently.

    Trust me, my wife is telling me all about it every day. She’s going through far more of her root touch-up powder thanks to Dear Leader Gretchen.

    NH has just allowed salons and barbers to open for work. But: salons are supposed to keep appointments to 1 hour. And no blow dry. You have to choose: roots (30-45 minutes?) Cut (30 min?) Wash (5min?) Come back tomorrow? No eyebrow tinting or trimming, no full color, and no foils, so sorry blonds. In case you wondered, a nice, relaxed full treatment appointment is 2 hours or so. Oh – and still no beach for you. 

    But I really want to know when masks aren’t required costume for this theatre. I’ve actually not had to use one so far but it’s coming my way if I want into walk to an outdoor sit down dining venue nearby. It seems that mask should be off since the Prophet Fauci surmises that well, actually you get the virus from sustained, personal, close contact indoors. Kind of like many of the living circumstances in hotspot Italy. 

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    • May 23, 2020, at 3:20 AM PDT
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  15. E. Kent Golding Member

    I like the Gym for working out because it is “Not Home” without home distractions. Mentally, the Gym reminds me that I am there to work out. I like going to my place of employment for the similar reasons. And, when I am at home, I can be “Not at Work or at the Gym” and be focused on my family, etc. Win-Win-Win.

    I hate the lockdown. Safety Theater for the Rich, with the non-Rich as involuntary actors in the play.

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    • May 23, 2020, at 4:52 AM PDT
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  16. Boss Mongo Member
    Boss Mongo

    OmegaPaladin (View Comment):

    Boss, you don’t actually explain why you are so eager to end the lockdown. After all, you are in Florida, not Michigan – that version of lockdown is not nearly as bad – and unlike Seawriter you don’t cite the new CDC info or other details. I can guess, but I figured you could explain why you are that passionate to end the lockdown.

    I think it has served its purpose, but I’m not eager to jump into a mosh pit or otherwise deliberately get exposed.

    I live in FL, but I contract with DoD, so we’re still at min manning at work. Been in a couple times, for stuff that absolutely couldn’t be done anywhere else, but for the most part I’m at home.

    But it’s not about me (I know: shocking, right?). The entire country is hurting. American citizens were heroes and did what needed to be done. Mission (the original mission, flatten the curve) complete. End it.

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    • May 23, 2020, at 5:29 AM PDT
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  17. Boss Mongo Member
    Boss Mongo

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    I sort of like working from home. Can we keep this part of the lock down?

    I think we’re going to see a lot of people continuing to work from home. Businesses are going to say, “Wait. I can get the same productivity without the overhead? Done and done.”

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    • May 23, 2020, at 5:30 AM PDT
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  18. EODmom Coolidge

    Boss Mongo (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    I sort of like working from home. Can we keep this part of the lock down?

    I think we’re going to see a lot of people continuing to work from home. Businesses are going to say, “Wait. I can get the same productivity without the overhead? Done and done.”

    EODDad’s company – semiconductors – has long had a culture of work at the place of business and combining all the acquired companies to common culture. But he says that ship has sailed: too many people are too nervous or scared or say their are and like whatever convenience they’ve had. So along with their re-opening protocols is allowing those who want to to continue to work from home. The production facilities obviously aren’t work from home but I figure that will last for the rest of the gang only until the CEO realizes productivity ain’t what it used to be. And some of the ambitious middle managers figure out that you don’t get the cool new projects if you’re not around to be seen by the people assigning the cool new projects. Or pitch their exciting R&D ideas to powers that be and control budget.

    EODDad is pretty much of an introvert, and we are well set up for work at home, but doing all day long meetings by mobile while looking at materials on laptop sized screen got old even for him. 3 weeks into this he declared himself essential and went back to HQ 3 days/week. Up until they started talking and working on plans for real-opening he was mostly alone. Now he’s got to mask up and complete a questionnaire coming into the building. 

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    • May 23, 2020, at 6:00 AM PDT
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  19. Percival Thatcher
    Percival Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Boss Mongo (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    I sort of like working from home. Can we keep this part of the lock down?

    I think we’re going to see a lot of people continuing to work from home. Businesses are going to say, “Wait. I can get the same productivity without the overhead? Done and done.”

    Every place I’ve ever worked before, contractors weren’t allowed to work from home. That has changed.

    • #19
    • May 23, 2020, at 6:30 AM PDT
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  20. Instugator Thatcher
    Instugator Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Boss Mongo: Then he asked me, maybe it was supposed to be a “gotcha” question, “Would you go to a gym, right now?”

    Went to the gym Thursday. Sore as, well you know. Gym today.

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    • May 23, 2020, at 7:06 AM PDT
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  21. Instugator Thatcher
    Instugator Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Boss Mongo (View Comment):
    Mission (the original mission, flatten the curve) complete. End it.

    Flatten the curve AND don’t overwhelm the hospitals – complete.

    Concur on ending it.

    • #21
    • May 23, 2020, at 7:08 AM PDT
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  22. Instugator Thatcher
    Instugator Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    OmegaPaladin (View Comment):
    I can guess, but I figured you could explain why you are that passionate to end the lockdown.

    Mission accomplished is why we end the lockdown.

    We succeeded in the two purposes of the lockdown (flatten curve and don’t overwhelm hospitals) so there is no need to continue on that front.

    The next steps, if we don’t want life to suck for a while, is re-open and start the churn on the most effective economy the world has ever seen.

    All the other problems (treatment, vaccine, food supply, 2nd wave) can be fixed via the invisible hand. 

    Think of the disease as a fight. We had a surprise attack, we hunkered down for the enemy artillery barrage, that has lifted now so counterattack.

    • #22
    • May 23, 2020, at 7:14 AM PDT
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  23. Boss Mongo Member
    Boss Mongo

    Instugator (View Comment):

    Boss Mongo: Then he asked me, maybe it was supposed to be a “gotcha” question, “Would you go to a gym, right now?”

    Went to the gym Thursday. Sore as, well you know. Gym today.

    Remember: Professionals don’t skip leg day.

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    • May 23, 2020, at 7:27 AM PDT
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  24. Boss Mongo Member
    Boss Mongo

    Instugator (View Comment):
    Think of the disease as a fight. We had a surprise attack, we hunkered down for the enemy artillery barrage, that has lifted now so counterattack.

    Well said, sir.

    • #24
    • May 23, 2020, at 7:28 AM PDT
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  25. Boss Mongo Member
    Boss Mongo

    Percival (View Comment):
    Every place I’ve ever worked before, contractors weren’t allowed to work from home. That has changed.

    Also, contractors are not supposed to be in the workspace unless there’s a green-suiter or gov’t civilian in there, too.

    I used to think it was for OPSEC, a la Snowden. I was disabused of that notion when my entire unit had someone from on high come down to explain to everybody–military, civilian and contractor–what the do’s and don’ts of tasking, rewarding and supervising contractors are. Of course, she was brought after, in a unit town hall meeting, a cantankerous contractor made a b-line toward a military O-4, right past the command group, giving him the blade hand saying “…and if you want to step outside to discuss this we can do it right now.” Heh.

    Anyway, the reason contractors can’t work from home or alone in the workspace is, I learned, because if they are unobserved then their performance can not be evaluated to determine whether they are in accordance with their contract’s Performance Work Statement.

    I think that that is about the silliest thing I ever heard. If part of my job is writing white papers for my government lead, and said government lead thinks it is the best white paper he’s ever seen, that’s quality assurance, no? What matter whether I did it at home? In gym clothes. After three or four breakfast beers.

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    • May 23, 2020, at 7:43 AM PDT
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  26. Buckpasser Member
    Buckpasser Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Instugator (View Comment):
    We succeeded in the two purposes of the lockdown (flatten curve and don’t overwhelm hospitals) so there is no need to continue on that front.

    Unfortunately, we (all the wonderful Governor Half Wits and Governor Nit Wits out there) haven’t done the rest.

     

    -Flatten the curve…yes.

    -Flatten the economy…..almost not yet.

    -Flatten Trump……maybe by Nov 3.

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    • May 23, 2020, at 7:44 AM PDT
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  27. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge

    Boss Mongo (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    I sort of like working from home. Can we keep this part of the lock down?

    I think we’re going to see a lot of people continuing to work from home. Businesses are going to say, “Wait. I can get the same productivity without the overhead? Done and done.”

    Not sure. Maybe short term. Bosses tend to be petty little tyrants that like to keep their employees under their thumbs and like to be seen doing it.

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    • May 23, 2020, at 8:00 AM PDT
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  28. Percival Thatcher
    Percival Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Boss Mongo (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):
    Every place I’ve ever worked before, contractors weren’t allowed to work from home. That has changed.

    Also, contractors are not supposed to be in the workspace unless there’s a green-suiter or gov’t civilian in there, too.

    I used to think it was for OPSEC, a la Snowden. I was disabused of that notion when my entire unit had someone from on high come down to explain to everybody–military, civilian and contractor–what the do’s and don’ts of tasking, rewarding and supervising contractors are. Of course, she was brought after, in a unit town hall meeting, a cantankerous contractor made a b-line toward a military O-4, right past the command group, giving him the blade hand saying “…and if you want to step outside to discuss this we can do it right now.” Heh.

    Anyway, the reason contractors can’t work from home or alone in the workspace is, I learned, because if they are unobserved then their performance can not be evaluated to determine whether they are in accordance with their contract’s Performance Work Statement.

    I think that that is about the silliest thing I ever heard. If part of my job is writing white papers for my government lead, and said government lead thinks it is the best white paper he’s ever seen, that’s quality assurance, no? What matter whether I did it at home? In gym clothes. After three or four breakfast beers.

    Mmmm … breakfast beers.

    I haven’t had direct dealings with the military in a few years. I was always respectful of their chain-of-command, but not bound by it. If your colonel has a cranial-rectal intersection issue, I may or may not tell you before I tell him.

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    • May 23, 2020, at 8:15 AM PDT
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  29. Jules PA Member

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Boss Mongo: Brother, I’d go to a dojo right now and do some close grappling for two hours with 20 total strangers.

    Boss Mongo: “I’m not there, yet.”

    Dear Leader Nurse Ratched of Michigan has just extended ours until 12 JUN, and if we do not improve our morale, she will extend it further until Joe Biden selects her as his VP nominee.

    Would Michiganers be willing to stay in lockdown til Nov 3? To stop the Biden?

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    • May 23, 2020, at 8:42 AM PDT
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  30. Jules PA Member

    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Boss Mongo: Brother, I’d go to a dojo right now and do some close grappling for two hours with 20 total strangers.

    Boss Mongo: “I’m not there, yet.”

    In fact, I’ve never been there, but I am all for ending the lockdown, unfortunately Dear Leader Nurse Ratched of Michigan has just extended ours until 12 JUN, and if we do not improve our morale, she will extend it further until Joe Biden selects her as his VP nominee.

    Sounds like it will be extended to the day after never. Meanwhile, reports are that her hubby is at their second house. Some pigs are more equal than others.

    The leftist prove our point daily. We need a montage of their hypokrisy. (Spelled wrong, because they are wrong)

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    • May 23, 2020, at 8:44 AM PDT
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