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Voter Fraud? Never Happens…
…except when it does. From the Washington Times article:
DeMuro fraudulently stuffed the ballot box by literally standing in a voting booth and voting over and over, as fast as he could, while he thought the coast was clear.
Being a pessimist by nature, I have to believe that they only caught one perpetrator, and that there are many, many more who never got caught.
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It is unpossible! There was a study in Kansas or somewhere that said it just isn’t a realistic concern!
Hypothesis: The problem with the Democratic Party is that it’s too often wedded to an all-or-nothing approach to any issue. They are seemingly incapable of ever saying, “yes this is a problem, but we have to look at costs vs. benefits when it comes to solutions.”
In the case of a problem like COVID-19, they therefore take the “if it saves just one life it’s justified” approach. i.e. They choose “all”.
In the case of a problem like voter fraud, they pretend that the problem doesn’t even exist. i.e. They choose “nothing”.
Voter fraud is like any other crime in that it’s impossible to eliminate entirely, so clearly there must be some theoretical limit to how many resources you allocate to stamping it out, which means there must logically be some theoretical level of voter fraud that is tolerable. After all, if an election is only legitimate if there is zero voter fraud it virtually means that no election in history has ever been legitimate.
Now, this isn’t to say that Republicans never fall prey to the “all-or-nothing” ethos, or that there’s aren’t factions within the Republican coalition that are more prone to it than others, but I think it’s entirely arguable that it’s been an institutional leitmotif of Democratic Party rhetoric since at least the Great Society. Republicans seem far more willing to seek out middle ground (often to the party’s detriment).
Hypothesis #2: If you want Democrats and the media to take voter fraud seriously, Republicans will have to start committing voter fraud.
Voting by mailmailing out — whatever it it — 25% more ballots than are registered (or legal) voters is so much easier than furtively standing at a voting machine and pressing button after button. Or, for that matter, going through the effort (and risk) of faking voters showing up at a polling stations with Republican judges keeping even half an eye on what you’re doing.Just collect the ballots before they’re mailed out, sit with friends in your living room filling out thousands of ballots and then “harvesting” them in. It’s like a Superbowl party with Joe Bidet quarterbacking your favorite team. Six friends enjoying the evening and the repartee. Chablis flowing, and Hillary-themed drinking games. Two dozen pens on the coffee table so that each signature doesn’t match every other. Good times.
“It never happens” means don’t bother investigating, and if you did that you wouldn’t find these things then you too could pretend it never happens.
Democratic résponse: Well, if we had mail in voting, there’d be no ballot boxes to stuff!
It sounds like the kind of old fashioned voting booth where you go in, pull the curtains and pull the lever… I didn’t think they even made those any more. Where I vote, you’re handed a paper card, and stand in an open booth and darken circles on the card for your vote, then leave the booth, stand in line again to insert your paper card into a reading machine. No way to vote twice. I guess if you’re an election official you could find a way to fill out multiple cards though.
Election fraud like that should be a capital offense. I can’t see how it’s different from espionage or treason in terms of its seriousness.
Helps to explain Philly’s fantastic turnout figures.
The first (preferably public) execution would also go a long way towards discouraging future incidents.
Love it!
The biggest problem with vote fraud is when they refuse to look for it, and then, having found none, insist that it doesn’t exist.
Not necessarily for the homeless or mentally ill people they recruit to vote twice or whatever. But this guy was an election official who was paid to do it. So for him and whoever paid him, I say off with their heads.
You might notice there are sometimes prosecutions of Democrats for cheating in primaries but almost never in general elections. Investigating the latter would be “voter suppression.”
My suspicion is that they don’t usually bother to get homeless etc people to actually vote. They just “harvest” their mail-in ballots. Which are often found in the trash outside such facilities, so it’s a simple thing.
Re # 3, in Alabama, in the 1990s and early 2000s, the fraud came from white folks in Winston County and African-Americans in Greene County.
Non citizens, deceased persons, and multiple ballot votes are not a problem, it just doesn’t ever happen.
But Russia buying a few thousand dollars of ads on Facebook is a serious concern for our election validity! Why, some rube might see that ad and vote the wrong way!
Legitimate vote (promotes the People’s true interest, therefore cannot be fraudulent) = for Prog agenda/Democrat
Illegitimate vote (always undemocratic and therefore always in reality fraudulent whatever the fascist law says) = hostile to interests of the People = against Prog agenda/for Republican
From the NY Post Dec 14, 2016:
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Hillary was so confident in victory that she under stuffed the ballot boxes.
You have to give the Dems credit for coming out 102 votes ahead in the recount since the obviously suspect precincts were excluded by the courts. It was actually far more brazen than the Al Franken Recount miracle or the old traditional Necro-American turnout in Baltimore cemeteries.
I wonder if they’re as sure there is no voter fraud as they are that HCQ is bad for you. Have they done double-blind, placebo-controlled studies?
I’ve watched that clip at least three times, and I still have no [CoC] idea what she’s trying to say.
I have worked elections for over 20 years as a volunteer, from being a clerk to a field inspector. Ballots are given one at a time, one can’t stuff the ballot box. Many vote by mail here and that works well. Concerns of significant voter fraud are unfounded, based on my experience.
I don’t think there is cheating in my suburban county either. I think the vast majority of Americans paid or volunteer pol workers are decent civic-minded folks.
However, I do not have similar confidence in New Orleans, Chicago, Atlanta, Detroit, Philadelphia or the “vote harvesters” of California. Honest jurisdictions generally come up with identical or nearly-identical numbers in a recount. They do not find boxes of ballots in warehouses or falling off the truck (Seattle) or continually increasing totals for one side in each recount (Minneapolis) or lots of dubious registrations (Milwaukee). Or tens of thousands of deceased or non-resident voters (Detroit) still on the rolls, which invites mischief.
Democrats want to increase the opportunity for cheating. Weaker registration requirements and all ballots physically outside the polling station is an open invitation for fraud.
And a poll worker even in a known-corrupt area may have seen no “evidence” of fraud, but they’re relying on registrations that may have been fraudulent before poll workers even see them.