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Will COVID Decimate NYC Demographics?
Anecdotally, I’m watching an exodus from New York City among dozens of friends, and I can’t say I blame them. They’ve spent months trapped inside tiny apartments that they signed on the dotted line for in exchange for what’s outside their walls, not inside. You trade the space and comfort of the suburbs for the restaurants, theatre, nightlife of the city. Now, all that’s outside their windows are the screech of ambulance sirens and the inconvenience of grocery shopping with delivery windows that disappear faster than lightening.
Leaving tomorrow for who knows how long! pic.twitter.com/4Qc9p4CZ0O
— Zachary Kussin (@zacharykussin) May 17, 2020
Those watching real estate sites in the city are noticing the phenomenon too:
The sheer volume of sublets, lease takeover and general for rent listings in the NYC Facebook groups and email lists I belong to is pretty breathtaking.
— Lydia Polgreen (@lpolgreen) May 20, 2020
Everyone wants out.
What is this going to do to our society’s willingness to live cramped into sardine cans in urban areas, where the only mode of transportation is shared (on buses and subways)? The rest of the country is likely to go back to normal a lot faster than New York City, and we’re going to see the after-effects of this virus on the day-to-day way of life there for years to come. Will New Yorkers and other urban-dwellers permanently leave city life behind for the comfort of suburban life? In the short-term that is certain, but it’ll be interesting to watch if this exodus from urban life shifts American demographics and mindsets. One interesting indicator is what occupied my friends while they were locked down in their urban apartments: they baked sourdough bread with their “homegrown” yeast and tried to create little gardens on their windowsills.
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The rats and the roaches will suffer grievous withdrawal and mental illness from being abandoned by New Yorkers. They really are the silent victims in all this. And when they step down as Mayor and Governor, you will only have yourselves to blame!
There is a German word that expresses my feelings about this and I bet you know what it is.
Epithet from the Anglo Saxon netherworld.
Bethany,
What a surprise. Apparently, facts do matter. They dumped on DeSantis in Florida and they inflated Cuomo in New York. Whoops, Cuomo got a whole lot of elderly killed and locked everybody else down forever for nothing. DeSantis protected the elderly and then opened up the whole State.
Where Does Ron DeSantis Go to Get His Apology? – Rich Lowry NR
If you have been reporting the news and living off the fat of the land with that woke attitude then I have absolutely no sympathy for you. If your state was sucking money from the Federal government by the huge tax break that high tax states were getting and now they don’t, I have no sympathy for you. If your State now wants a bailout because it has pursued both fiscal and socially insane policies, I have no sympathy for you.
It’s time for the woke to grow up and start living in the real world. They have a responsibility and it’s not too much to ask.
Regards,
Jim
Yes, it will change the demographics, but I can only guess how much. The people I know in San Francisco have all decamped to stay with relatives in the ‘burbs. And San Francisco is a suburb compared with NYC. Cuomo said on several occasions that conservatives are not welcome in his state. If I was an illegal immigrant, I would be sanctuaried, but as a conservative US citizen, I am told by the governor I am not welcome in an American state!
So best of luck with that “European Virus”, Cuomo! And the nitwits who voted for you, as well. Hope you all enjoy your August.
New York’s history over the years has been to punish their Democratic leadership at times, but only when the Democrats also hold the higher offices, in Albany if it’s the mayor of NYC, and both the White House and Congress in Washington if it’s the mayor and the governor, because if they’ve turned things into a clusterfark then, there’s no Republican with any power at all to blame for the city/state problems (Giulani’s narrow win in 1993 over David Dinkins likely never happens if Bush 41 had beaten Clinton in ’92, because Dinkins would have run against the White House, and enough voters in NYC would have fallen for the spin that the six murders per day and the plunging quality of life in the city were all the fault of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue). And the same was true for Mario Cuomo in ’94 — he probably gets a fourth term if Bush is president and the GOP had control of either house of Congress.
Andrew Cuomo and de Blasio have pretty much put the city and its surrounding suburbs back to where it was circa 1992, though in a different way — the crime rate hasn’t hit Dinkins-Mario C era, but thanks to their inactions in February and March and their actions in April, the death toll’s higher thanks to the preventable COVID fatalities, and that’s now got people fleeing the city in numbers that even surpass the totals from 30 years ago. But unless Biden wins in November and the Democrats take over the Senate and hold the House, it’s hard to see NYC voters electing a Republican mayor in 2021 — at best you might see a repeat of the bankruptcy-era election in ’77, when voters elected Ed Koch as the most conservative Democrat in a mayoral field that included Bela Abzug. That stopped the bleeding for half a decade but didn’t fix the problem until Giuliani got elected in ’93. If Trump wins, NYC voters will probably elect the loudest anti-Trump candidate as mayor.
Even Wall Street is decamping for Florida. Will the last one out of NYC please turn out the lights?
Well. I’m waiting for the first buyer to look. I have a 3.5 acres home for sale in Pa. about 1.5 hrs from NYC. Have to drive or ride mass transit to live this far away so movement will have to be everything and the idiots who run NYC better figure that one out. In the mean time Pa. hasn’t figured out how to make themselves more attractive. It’s taxes and schools I suppose.
I thought about recommending Arcosanti in Arizona as a high-density alternative to NYC. Sadly, it is closed now https://arcosanti.org/
Back during the Lindsay-Beame years of the late 1960s-early 70s, the progressives running NYC took the attitude that things were so supercalifragilisticexpealadocious in Fun City nobody who is really important or who runs a major corporation would ever want to leave … until they were fleeing in droves by the mid-70s, and the city during the early Koch years had to scramble and work with the state to stop the bleeding.
That’s unlikely to happen at least until de Blasio’s out of office after 2021, and even then you still have the AOC mindset in the city which kept Amazon’s east coast HQ away and likely is thinking “Good riddance!” to any people or companies that leave New York now (because they somehow think government or non-profits will magically make up for the lost businesses and jobs, and they can fix the economy by barring landlords from charging rent, or some equally economically illiterate ideas).
For those New Yorkers looking to buy a vehicle for leaving the city, I would suggest the following:
https://www.leer.com/truck-cap/100xq-sport
you will need to add a truck, a suggestion is:
https://www.waynefordcars.com/new/Ford/2020-Ford-F-150-for-sale-wayne-nj-dea359b80a0e0a170291550ce7a58f1d.htm?searchDepth=1:3
Helpful hint: make sure you get the towing package and blind spot monitoring. The towing package allows you to add the following rental:
https://www.uhaul.com/Trailers/6×12-Cargo-Trailer-Rental/RV/
Remember: it is a buyers market for cars and trucks.
The taxes are only going to get higher. The schools are going to continue to decline. The Democrats are corrupt hacks and have a stranglehold on the city and the state. If you take away all the conveniences and things that made the incredible price of living worth it, nobody is going to stay.