Oregon Gov. Kate Brown Extends State of Emergency, Part II

 

Just a short addition to a recent post:

Our good Governor Brown recently condescended to modify her edict closing all dine-in restaurants in the state. She has graciously now decreed that most restaurants may now reopen, under her social-distancing guidelines, of course — requiring that only 25% of seating capacity be utilized — however, the restaurants must close by 10 p.m. each day.

I do not have the background in virology and immunology that our good Governor obviously has at her disposal, but am surprised that it has apparently been discovered that the virus is nocturnal, and thus more dangerous in the late-night hours.

Or could it be that she is discovered that the newfound powers to regulate the lives and businesses of her citizens can be exercised arbitrarily, without any need for justification?

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  1. Henry Racette Member
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    It should be pretty obvious to you, Jim, that the more detailed and precise the rules, the more effective they will be at preventing contagion. I think that’s just common sense.

    She should have issued actual seating charts, and perhaps mandated state-approved menus as well. And who gets to decide what music gets played in each restaurant, anyway? Is that just going to be left to management, which might be scientifically incompetent to make a sensible choice?

    Lot of questions here. We need some more rules.

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  2. Vince Guerra Member
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    Yes the daylight strain has a mortality rate of 0.037%, but from 22:00-05:00 it jumps up to 0.038%, or so I’ve heard. 

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  3. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    It should be pretty obvious to you, Jim, that the more detailed and precise the rules, the more effective they will be at preventing contagion. I think that’s just common sense.

    She should have issued actual seating charts, and perhaps mandated state-approved menus as well. And who gets to decide what music gets played in each restaurant, anyway? Is that just going to be left to management, which might be scientifically incompetent to make a sensible choice?

    Lot of questions here. We need some more rules.

    I’m with @henryracette! More rules! More rules! More rules!

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  4. Jim McConnell Member
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    It should be pretty obvious to you, Jim, that the more detailed and precise the rules, the more effective they will be at preventing contagion. I think that’s just common sense.

    She should have issued actual seating charts, and perhaps mandated state-approved menus as well. And who gets to decide what music gets played in each restaurant, anyway? Is that just going to be left to management, which might be scientifically incompetent to make a sensible choice?

    Lot of questions here. We need some more rules.

    Actually, you are right in tune with the Governor; she has issued pages of rules outlining in detail the correct procedures for restaurant operation (duplicating in many instances the standard regulations for food service hygiene). Like a spirited horse, Governor Kate has the bit in her mouth and she’s running with it.

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  5. Sisyphus (Rolling Stone) Member
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    It should be pretty obvious to you, Jim, that the more detailed and precise the rules, the more effective they will be at preventing contagion. I think that’s just common sense.

    She should have issued actual seating charts, and perhaps mandated state-approved menus as well. And who gets to decide what music gets played in each restaurant, anyway? Is that just going to be left to management, which might be scientifically incompetent to make a sensible choice?

    Lot of questions here. We need some more rules.

    You have found the path to instant gratification, grasshopper. Now just keep your eyes firmly fixed on the governors posterior orifice and breathe in deeply the aroma of infallible guidance.

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  6. Stad Coolidge
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    Jim McConnell: requiring that only 25% of seating capacity be utilized

    They won’t be able to stay open.

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  7. Doctor Robert Member
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    Stad (View Comment):

    Jim McConnell: requiring that only 25% of seating capacity be utilized

    They won’t be able to stay open.

    Exactly.  You need more that 50% occupancy to pay for opening the kitchen.

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  8. Cal Lawton Member
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    Jim McConnell (View Comment):
    . Like a spirited horse, Governor Kate has the bit in her mouth and she’s running with it.

    The wrong end is pointed at the finish line.

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  9. MichaelKennedy Inactive
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    She is really the Governor of Portland and the college towns.  My stepson lives in McMinnville and they pretty much ignore her.  He is building homes as fast as he can.  I don’t know how many crews he has going but it is more than two.

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  10. Daniel Zatkovich Inactive
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    Sadly, I think we are the ones with the bit in our mouths.

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  11. MISTER BITCOIN Member
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    25 percent seating capacity?

    Are restaurants a high risk venue?  especially if the seating capacity is under 100 people?

     

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  12. Sisyphus (Rolling Stone) Member
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    MISTER BITCOIN (View Comment):

    25 percent seating capacity?

    Are restaurants a high risk venue? especially if the seating capacity is under 100 people?

     

    The talk now is that risk comes through 15+ minutes of exposure, like when you sit in a restaurant with possible plague bearers at the next table, or even across from you. And don’t order the poop, the CDC has warned about eating the poop of people who are possibly infected.

    I would broaden that warning dramatically, but I’m not an epidemiologist scripted by Rod Serling. Or was it Simon Pegg.

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  13. MISTER BITCOIN Member
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    Sisyphus (Rolling Stone) (View Comment):

    MISTER BITCOIN (View Comment):

    25 percent seating capacity?

    Are restaurants a high risk venue? especially if the seating capacity is under 100 people?

     

    The talk now is that risk comes through 15+ minutes of exposure, like when you sit in a restaurant with possible plague bearers at the next table, or even across from you. And don’t order the poop, the CDC has warned about eating the poop of people who are possibly infected.

    I would broaden that warning dramatically, but I’m not an epidemiologist scripted by Rod Serling. Or was it Simon Pegg.

    Think of all the times you got sick (cold, flu, fever, etc.) in your life… how many times can you trace it to a restaurant?  Please don’t mention food poisoning.   I mean respiratory viruses/illnesses

     

     

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