Introduction

 

Hello! I’m new here and you can blame @Spin for that. (Can I tag people with the @ symbol? I don’t know…as I said, I’m new here.) Anyways, I’ve spent the last decade and change wearing my county’s cloth as a Naval Flight Officer. Aviators aren’t generally known for their bookishness, so my long surname was replaced by the callsign “D12”. Facebook is my only social media outlet (Twitter is a sewer, and don’t get me started on the instaporn apps). I’m hoping to find rigorous and respectful discussions with passionately reasonable people. To paraphrase Dennis Prager, I don’t care much for consensus, but clarity is priceless. See you in the comment section!

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  1. D12 Inactive
    D12
    @D12

    Mendel (View Comment):

    Welcome!

    It sounds like you are very interested in joining in thought-provoking, in-depth discussions on deep and sometimes obscure topics. That’s what this site is for.

    On the other hand, I imagine quite a few members would also be game for some very un-intellectual, titillating tales from the world of naval aviation right about now. So don’t hold back.

    D12: Naval Flight Officer

    Which aircraft?

    I flew the E-6b “Mercury”, possibly the least sexy and least known aircraft in the fleet. And that’s the way we like it!

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  2. D12 Inactive
    D12
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    Addiction Is A Choice (View Comment):

    Welcome, FNG, er, D12!

    This guy gets it. 

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  3. Dave Carter Podcaster
    Dave Carter
    @DaveCarter

    Welcome aboard, D12! Glad to have you here, and thanks for your service. Good of Spin to guide you in this direction. 

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  4. D12 Inactive
    D12
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    Spin (View Comment):

    I’m glad you joined!

    All, D12 was a young man studying Arabic in the Middle East when I met him on a mission trip. I celebrated my 40th birthday on that trip and he gave me a bible written in Arabic. Still once of my prized possessions. I still think of him as a kid but 10 years in the Navy will man you up right now!

    Hard to believe it, but that trip was almost exactly 11 years ago. 🤯 I cringe to think back to the young knucklehead I was, trying hard to adult but still only 22. Things have improved by the grace of God and my gracious wife. One of these days you’ll have to meet her and the kiddos, @Spin!

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  5. Boss Mongo Member
    Boss Mongo
    @BossMongo

    Welcome aboard, swabbie.

    • #35
  6. Hartmann von Aue Member
    Hartmann von Aue
    @HartmannvonAue

    Spin (View Comment):

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    Welcome! And your prize for joining Ricochet will be revealed on the next Flagship Podcast. ;)

    What prize do I get?

    Recruiter’s fee. Standard. No holiday bonus or hazard pay. 

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  7. D12 Inactive
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    Instugator (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    Now, about that post regarding price gouging…

    Link please – I gotta see that one.

    I had it out on Facebook back during Hurricane Harvey with a bunch of knuckle heads who thought that charging $6 for a bottle of water was wickedness incarnate. Not exactly well versed in the study economics, they were horrified to hear me say that if I was allowed to raise the price of goods sufficient to make it worth my while, I’d consider driving my truck down from OKC to sell desperately needed things like bottled water, blankets, gasoline powered generators, gas, etc etc. As it was I couldn’t afford to do it with price controls in place. So, people went without for an extra few days. @spin was egging me on to do it again in the midst of martial law here in NorCal. I’m going to pass this time. My views are heretical enough as it is!

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  8. Spin Coolidge
    Spin
    @Spin

    Instugator (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    Now, about that post regarding price gouging…

    Link please – I gotta see that one.

    He ain’t wrote it yet.  I challenged my friends on Facebook to defend it, as D12 and I had locked horns on the subject before.  I knew he’d be the one to bite!  So I said “Join Ricochet, write a post!”  I hope he does.  But he’s probably off making the world safe for Democracy just now…

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  9. D12 Inactive
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    Mendel (View Comment):

    Oh, and we almost forgot the most important admission criteria:

    Cats or dogs?

    (P.S. There is only one correct answer. And that answer is dogs.)

    Dogs, and it’s not even close. Sadly, our beloved  pitbull/Labrador/mutt got hit by a car just before Christmas. Another reason I’m eager to get the heck out of CA. 

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  10. Spin Coolidge
    Spin
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    D12 (View Comment):
    I’m going to pass this time.

    Chicken.  

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  11. John Park Member
    John Park
    @jpark

    Welcome aboard, D12!

    • #41
  12. Stina Member
    Stina
    @CM

    She (View Comment):

    D12: I’m hoping to find rigorous and respectful discussions with passionately reasonable people.

    Spin told you that’s what you’d find here? Oh, dear . . .

    Welcome!

    Hey… its a good description. Passionate, reasonable – seldom at the same time.

    Welcome!

    • #42
  13. Roderic Reagan
    Roderic
    @rhfabian

    D12: I’m hoping to find rigorous and respectful discussions with passionately reasonable people.

    You’ve come to the right place.  Welcome.

    • #43
  14. Front Seat Cat Member
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    Mendel (View Comment):

    Oh, and we almost forgot the most important admission criteria:

    Cats or dogs?

    (P.S. There is only one correct answer. And that answer is dogs.)

    It is?

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  15. Doug Watt Moderator
    Doug Watt
    @DougWatt

    Welcome

    • #45
  16. Stad Coolidge
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    @Stad

    D12 (View Comment):

    Mendel (View Comment):

    Welcome!

    It sounds like you are very interested in joining in thought-provoking, in-depth discussions on deep and sometimes obscure topics. That’s what this site is for.

    On the other hand, I imagine quite a few members would also be game for some very un-intellectual, titillating tales from the world of naval aviation right about now. So don’t hold back.

    D12: Naval Flight Officer

    Which aircraft?

    I flew the E-6b “Mercury”, possibly the least sexy and least known aircraft in the fleet. And that’s the way we like it!

    I liked the S-3 Viking, even though it was a sub hunter (I was in submarines) . . .

    • #46
  17. Stad Coolidge
    Stad
    @Stad

    D12: I’m new here and you can blame @Spin for that.

    • #47
  18. PHenry Member
    PHenry
    @PHenry

    Welcome Mr. 12!

    • #48
  19. D12 Inactive
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    @D12

    PHenry (View Comment):

    Welcome Mr. 12!

    Is that you, Mayo Pete?

    • #49
  20. Instugator Thatcher
    Instugator
    @Instugator

    D12 (View Comment):
    Bombers, eh? Ol’ BUFF or something else?

    All you have when there is a B-1, B-2 and B-52 is a couple of bingo numbers and a Strategic Bomber.

    B-52 retired at Barksdale. I am a DoD civilian now.

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  21. Instugator Thatcher
    Instugator
    @Instugator

    D12 (View Comment):

    Instugator (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    Now, about that post regarding price gouging…

    Link please – I gotta see that one.

    I had it out on Facebook back during Hurricane Harvey with a bunch of knuckle heads who thought that charging $6 for a bottle of water was wickedness incarnate. Not exactly well versed in the study economics, they were horrified to hear me say that if I was allowed to raise the price of goods sufficient to make it worth my while, I’d consider driving my truck down from OKC to sell desperately needed things like bottled water, blankets, gasoline powered generators, gas, etc etc. As it was I couldn’t afford to do it with price controls in place. So, people went without for an extra few days. @spin was egging me on to do it again in the midst of martial law here in NorCal. I’m going to pass this time. My views are heretical enough as it is!

    My thoughts exactly. Let the price float.

    • #51
  22. Randy Webster Member
    Randy Webster
    @RandyWebster

    Instugator (View Comment):
    My thoughts exactly. Let the price float.

    @Caryn chastised me for this opinion on a different post.

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  23. Instugator Thatcher
    Instugator
    @Instugator

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    Instugator (View Comment):
    My thoughts exactly. Let the price float.

    @Caryn chastised me for this opinion on a different post.

    No one is required to buy.

    • #53
  24. Caryn Thatcher
    Caryn
    @Caryn

    D12 (View Comment):

    Mendel (View Comment):

    Oh, and we almost forgot the most important admission criteria:

    Cats or dogs?

    (P.S. There is only one correct answer. And that answer is dogs.)

    Dogs, and it’s not even close. Sadly, our beloved pitbull/Labrador/mutt got hit by a car just before Christmas. Another reason I’m eager to get the heck out of CA.

    So sorry for your loss.  We lost a cat (yes, cats!) several years ago and that led to the others being made permanent house pets.  Welcome to the club.  It’s a nice place.  Mostly nice people.  Well, as some of the others said…Spin…hmmm… 

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  25. Caryn Thatcher
    Caryn
    @Caryn

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    Instugator (View Comment):
    My thoughts exactly. Let the price float.

    @Caryn chastised me for this opinion on a different post.

    In fairness, my objection was to people artificially creating scarcity specifically for resale during a national disaster.  I have no problem with charging prices that reflect the costs of business.  Driving necessary product to a disaster area should be compensated and the person willing to do so celebrated.  Denuding shelves across 1300 miles for profit when people are likely to panic over those empty shelves is just wrong.

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  26. Instugator Thatcher
    Instugator
    @Instugator

    Caryn (View Comment):

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    Instugator (View Comment):
    My thoughts exactly. Let the price float.

    @Caryn chastised me for this opinion on a different post.

    In fairness, my objection was to people artificially creating scarcity specifically for resale during a national disaster. I have no problem with charging prices that reflect the costs of business. Driving necessary product to a disaster area should be compensated and the person willing to do so celebrated. Denuding shelves across 1300 miles for profit when people are likely to panic over those empty shelves is just wrong.

    Although in a natural disaster, it is probably ridiculous to investigate the provenance of the supplies, particularly when someone is willing to pay the price.

    Remember, the hoarder starts as a price maker, but ends up as a price taker as alternatives are considered.

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  27. D12 Inactive
    D12
    @D12

    Caryn (View Comment):

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    Instugator (View Comment):
    My thoughts exactly. Let the price float.

    @Caryn chastised me for this opinion on a different post.

    In fairness, my objection was to people artificially creating scarcity specifically for resale during a national disaster. I have no problem with charging prices that reflect the costs of business. Driving necessary product to a disaster area should be compensated and the person willing to do so celebrated. Denuding shelves across 1300 miles for profit when people are likely to panic over those empty shelves is just wrong.

    *Urge to comment intensifies*…. Ok I can’t help it. I would like to point out the economic service the hoarders performed when they drove around vast areas last month buying up cleaning supplies: they signaled an increased demand to the suppliers before the panic set it. In theory, that should have stimulated production to ramp up, or at least for additional supply to surge to those areas sooner than otherwise would have occurred absent the foresight and risky behavior of the much-maligned price gougers. The real villain here is Amazon, a company that knows where large stockpiles of needed goods are, knows that the owner wishes to sell them at the market rate, and yet refuses to allow access to their world-leading platform and delivery service to get the desperately needed desired goods from seller to buyer. Second place in the villain category is the media for castigating the foresight of the so-called “gougers.” 

    Aaand I’m going to stop right there. *strips shirt to accept flogging for heresy* 

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  28. Randy Webster Member
    Randy Webster
    @RandyWebster

    D12 (View Comment):

    Caryn (View Comment):

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    Instugator (View Comment):
    My thoughts exactly. Let the price float.

    @Caryn chastised me for this opinion on a different post.

    In fairness, my objection was to people artificially creating scarcity specifically for resale during a national disaster. I have no problem with charging prices that reflect the costs of business. Driving necessary product to a disaster area should be compensated and the person willing to do so celebrated. Denuding shelves across 1300 miles for profit when people are likely to panic over those empty shelves is just wrong.

    *Urge to comment intensifies*…. Ok I can’t help it. I would like to point out the economic service the hoarders performed when they drove around vast areas last month buying up cleaning supplies: they signaled an increased demand to the suppliers before the panic set it. In theory, that should have stimulated production to ramp up, or at least for additional supply to surge to those areas sooner than otherwise would have occurred absent the foresight and risky behavior of the much-maligned price gougers. The real villain here is Amazon, a company that knows where large stockpiles of needed goods are, knows that the owner wishes to sell them at the market rate, and yet refuses to allow access to their world-leading platform and delivery service to get the desperately needed desired goods from seller to buyer. Second place in the villain category is the media for castigating the foresight of the so-called “gougers.”

    Aaand I’m going to stop right there. *strips shirt to accept flogging for heresy*

    No flogging from here.

    • #58
  29. Instugator Thatcher
    Instugator
    @Instugator

    D12 (View Comment):
    The real villain here is Amazon, a company that knows where large stockpiles of needed goods are, knows that the owner wishes to sell them at the market rate, and yet refuses to allow access to their world-leading platform and delivery service to get the desperately needed desired goods from seller to buyer.

    Yep.

    Plus, no so-called gouger wants to be left holding the TP. The price will adjust to get it off the truck.

    • #59
  30. Michael Minnott Member
    Michael Minnott
    @MichaelMinnott

    Welcome aboard D12!

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