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Any natural system will have a lot of variability. It’s not natural for anything to stay the same. Weather is a good example of this. One might think that this would make one reluctant to rebuild our economy and our government based on the weather. But progressives do exactly that. And I think that’s the whole point.

The weather will tell you whatever you want to hear. It’s perfect. “In order to save the world, you all must do whatever I say! Just look at the weather! Don’t you see?!” Hard to argue that, without your argument sounding just as irrational as their original point.

The more I study the climate change movement, the more I think this is intentional. They know what they’re doing. They can’t support their arguments with something rational, like past experience or economic statistics. So they choose to support their argument with something completely irrational and unpredictable, like the weather. You can’t argue against them, because you don’t understand the weather or the climate.

Of course, neither do they, but they have academia and the media to help conceal that inconvenient truth. I hope they’re all just stupid. But I don’t think they are.

I think this is intentional.

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There are 19 comments.

  1. Bruce Caward Thatcher
    Bruce Caward Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Yep, it’s perfect.

    I think a lot of them are doing it on purpose; it is too effective a tool for control for them to pass up. 

    But a lot of people have been conditioned to only see it one way – what you or I see as unremarkable normal variability they see as evidence of a catastrophe looming just ahead.

    Dennis Miller made a good point the other day, when he likened this to the yellow dress/blue dress meme that was around a while back. It’s very difficult to persuade a blue dresser that the yellow dressers are not lying or crazy.

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    • January 26, 2020, at 8:42 AM PST
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  2. Mare Pete Coolidge
    Mare Pete Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Remember: If it’s colder than normal, it’s weather. If it’s hotter than normal, it’s climate.

    • #2
    • January 26, 2020, at 8:57 AM PST
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  3. Addiction Is A Choice Member

    (To the tune of “Lady Madonna” by The Beatles)

    “Raining iguanas / Lizards at your feet / Looks like they can’t handle the snow and sleet…”

    • #3
    • January 26, 2020, at 10:25 AM PST
    • 10 likes
  4. Jim McConnell Member
    Jim McConnell Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Umbra Fractus, cum Insigne (View Comment):

    Remember: If it’s colder than normal, it’s weather. If it’s hotter than normal, it’s climate.

    Except, that in the 1970s it was just the reverse. At that time we were faced with unending winter.

    • #4
    • January 26, 2020, at 10:43 AM PST
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  5. TBA Coolidge
    TBA

    Dr. Bastiat:

    Any natural system will have a lot of variability. It’s not natural for anything to stay the same. Weather is a good example of this. One might think that this would make one reluctant to rebuild our economy and our government based on the weather. But progressives do exactly that. And I think that’s the whole point. The weather will tell you whatever you want to hear. It’s perfect. “In order to save the world, you all must do whatever I say! Just look at the weather! DON’T YOU SEE?!?”

    Hard to argue that, without your argument sounding just as irrational as their original point.

    The more I study the climate change movement, the more I think this is intentional. They know what they’re doing. They can’t support their arguments with something rational, like past experience or economic statistics. So they choose to support their argument with something completely irrational & unpredictable, like the weather. You can’t argue against them, because you don’t understand the weather or the climate.

    Of course, neither do they, but they have academia and the media to help conceal that inconvenient truth.

    I hope they’re all just stupid. But I don’t think they are.

    I think this is intentional.

    When dealing with large groups of people a dichotomy is useless. ‘They’ consists of both the nefarious and the gulled. 

    • #5
    • January 26, 2020, at 12:03 PM PST
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  6. Barfly Member

    Dr. Bastiat: I think this is intentional.

    You are correct. It is an open con, executed with malice and often with skill. It is not one conspiracy, but rather several executed by like-minded groups. Conspiracies among corrupt academics, policymakers, and businessmen pervert the basic data, falsify the fundamental analyses, and politicize the public response. It’s the biggest financial con in history; it dwarfs them all from the tulip craze to the tech bubble. It’s the biggest scientific con in history; it’s the Piltdown Man taken to network scale.

    • #6
    • January 26, 2020, at 1:20 PM PST
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  7. Vance Richards Member
    Vance Richards Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    My mom saw an iguana fall out of one of her trees. Her reaction wasn’t “eeek! Global Warming!” but “Geez, those things are ugly. Hopefully the cold will kill off some of them.” They are invasive species after all.

    • #7
    • January 26, 2020, at 3:33 PM PST
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  8. Suspira Member

    Dr. Bastiat: The more I study the climate change movement, the more I think this is intentional. They know what they’re doing.

    IDK. You might need to point out who “they” are. I seem to talk only to people who really believe it. I am always the odd one in any discussion. (Okay, that’s true pretty much across the board, but you know what I mean.)

    • #8
    • January 26, 2020, at 4:23 PM PST
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  9. iWe Reagan
    iWe Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    I am in favor of invasive species. Diversity and competition… What’s not to like?

    • #9
    • January 26, 2020, at 4:44 PM PST
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  10. OkieSailor Member
    OkieSailor Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Weather is what we have today, this week, this month this year. Climate operates not on a yearly or even decades scale but over millennia. It changes slowly and therefore unpredictably for short lived beings. Heck, we can’t even predict weather accurately more than a few days out, watch the forecasts and see how many times the 10 day forecast changes as it approaches. And we think we understand climate? Balderdash! We have some very limited knowledge about how climate has operated in the past and some very suspect theories about what affects climate and that’s about it. That’s a very flimsy basis for disrupting economies and adversely affecting lives world wide which is what we are being asked, no demanded, to swallow. The question not being explored enough is, “Who benefits?”

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    • January 27, 2020, at 2:51 AM PST
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  11. Suspira Member

    iWe (View Comment):

    I am in favor of invasive species. Diversity and competition… What’s not to like?

    Huge pythons in Florida. I really don’t like those.

    • #11
    • January 27, 2020, at 8:15 AM PST
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  12. iWe Reagan
    iWe Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Suspira (View Comment):

    iWe (View Comment):

    I am in favor of invasive species. Diversity and competition… What’s not to like?

    Huge pythons in Florida. I really don’t like those.

    I would not like it either. I don’t like huge lizards or reptiles or bugs. So I avoid places like Florida, Mexico and Hawaii. But the climate alone is a good reason to avoid those places!

    • #12
    • January 27, 2020, at 8:30 AM PST
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  13. TBA Coolidge
    TBA

    OkieSailor (View Comment):

    Weather is what we have today, this week, this month this year. Climate operates not on a yearly or even decades scale but over millennia. It changes slowly and therefore unpredictably for short lived beings. Heck, we can’t even predict weather accurately more than a few days out, watch the forecasts and see how many times the 10 day forecast changes as it approaches. And we think we understand climate? Balderdash! We have some very limited knowledge about how climate has operated in the past and some very suspect theories about what affects climate and that’s about it. That’s a very flimsy basis for disrupting economies and adversely affecting lives world wide which is what we are being asked, no demanded, to swallow. The question not being explored enough is, “Who benefits?”

    “Look at these data points! If they continue to – ” 

    “How likely is it that they will?” 

    “…” 

    • #13
    • January 27, 2020, at 12:14 PM PST
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  14. Arahant Member

    State of Fear by Michael Crichton

    • #14
    • January 28, 2020, at 12:47 AM PST
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  15. OkieSailor Member
    OkieSailor Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    iWe (View Comment):

    Suspira (View Comment):

    iWe (View Comment):

    I am in favor of invasive species. Diversity and competition… What’s not to like?

    Huge pythons in Florida. I really don’t like those.

    I would not like it either. I don’t like huge lizards or reptiles or bugs. So I avoid places like Florida, Mexico and Hawaii. But the climate alone is a good reason to avoid those places!

    Hmmm. We’re headed there for a week next month, hope we don’t get eaten. If we survive we’ll skedaddle back to KY where it’s safe unless it rains and you happen to live next to a creek (which we chose not to do).

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    • January 28, 2020, at 2:19 AM PST
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  16. OkieSailor Member
    OkieSailor Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    TBA (View Comment):

    OkieSailor (View Comment):

    Weather is what we have today, this week, this month this year. Climate operates not on a yearly or even decades scale but over millennia. It changes slowly and therefore unpredictably for short lived beings. Heck, we can’t even predict weather accurately more than a few days out, watch the forecasts and see how many times the 10 day forecast changes as it approaches. And we think we understand climate? Balderdash! We have some very limited knowledge about how climate has operated in the past and some very suspect theories about what affects climate and that’s about it. That’s a very flimsy basis for disrupting economies and adversely affecting lives world wide which is what we are being asked, no demanded, to swallow. The question not being explored enough is, “Who benefits?”

    “Look at these data points! If they continue to – ”

    “How likely is it that they will?”

    “…”

    Those carefully cherry picked data points. Also, they extrapolate from them, then talk about exaggerated ‘what if’ scenarios. It’s mostly bad science modified by hot air. We’re leery when used car salesmen on late night TV talk this way, aren’t we? (do they still do that?)

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    • January 28, 2020, at 2:23 AM PST
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  17. MISTER BITCOIN Coolidge

    I am experiencing ‘life change’.

    I was expecting complete stability and zero changes in my life.

    I guess I should buy a Tesla now to deal with this crisis.

     

    • #17
    • February 1, 2020, at 12:18 AM PST
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  18. MISTER BITCOIN Coolidge

    Barfly (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat: I think this is intentional.

    You are correct. It is an open con, executed with malice and often with skill. It is not one conspiracy, but rather several executed by like-minded groups. Conspiracies among corrupt academics, policymakers, and businessmen pervert the basic data, falsify the fundamental analyses, and politicize the public response. It’s the biggest financial con in history; it dwarfs them all from the tulip craze to the tech bubble. It’s the biggest scientific con in history; it’s the Piltdown Man taken to network scale.

    It’s a marxist conspiracy to justify the end of individual liberty and property and marxist world government led by marxist plutocrats

     

    • #18
    • February 1, 2020, at 12:20 AM PST
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  19. Barfly Member

    MISTER BITCOIN (View Comment):

    Barfly (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat: I think this is intentional.

    You are correct. It is an open con, executed with malice and often with skill. It is not one conspiracy, but rather several executed by like-minded groups. Conspiracies among corrupt academics, policymakers, and businessmen pervert the basic data, falsify the fundamental analyses, and politicize the public response. It’s the biggest financial con in history; it dwarfs them all from the tulip craze to the tech bubble. It’s the biggest scientific con in history; it’s the Piltdown Man taken to network scale.

    It’s a marxist conspiracy to justify the end of individual liberty and property and marxist world government led by marxist plutocrats

    In the end, that’s true – but not (much) by explicit intent or directed social engineering. I think. It’s more a case of dishonest subgroups operating more or less independently for smaller ends. The groups (researchers, custodians of data, university administrators, … up to solar panel makers) each with narrow interests relate to each other in a more-or-less transactional this-for-that. I’m sure if you could see my hands waving this would all be clear. I’m saying the marxism emerges from dishonest groups acting in a network. It occurs to me that is also what Marx said. Hmm.

    Although I imagine they’re all lefties anyway, so it matters little. Dishonest people usually are.

    • #19
    • February 5, 2020, at 6:55 PM PST
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