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Serial Seppuku in the Capital
In all my many years of watching politics, I have never seen so many people so absolutely convinced of something where the facts support the exact opposite conclusion. The Democrats are literally screaming for Trump’s removal for a myriad of so-called high crimes and misdemeanors while the facts show none of their accusations are valid. The Ukraine aid was released, meetings were not denied and Zelinskyy never initiated any investigation nor promised to do so.
The actual transcript of the so-called incriminating conversation mentions no conditions on aid or assistance; in fact, it does not mention any assistance or aid at all. Zelisnkyy said he never felt pressured by Trump and did not know that the aid had been even delayed at the time of the call. There were five high-level meetings between US and Ukraine officials subsequent to the initial call and not once was any condition mentioned regarding the forthcoming aid.
The only “fact” witness who had any direct dealing with President Trump was Ambassador Sondland, and he made it clear that he just assumed there were conditions. Trump never once told him, in fact no one ever told him, that the aid was conditioned on an investigation of the Bidens. Sondland just assumed. And when he asked President Trump about this directly; that is “what did he [President Trump] want from Ukraine?” Trump said, “I want nothing. I want nothing. There is no quid pro quo.”
And yet the Democrats maintain their death-hold on the allegation that Trump demanded dirt on the Bidens in exchange for aid. Quite frankly, this entire ordeal likely bodes the end of the Biden candidacy (RIP) as it casts sunshine on Hunter Biden’s sweet dealings in Ukraine, Romania, and China. The more daylight Hunter receives, the more he looks like a corrupt rent seeker, a fraud, eager to sell out America for his fortune. And that does not reflect well on dad, the well-honed persona of everyman, blue-collar Joe.
Have they forgotten that the US Senate is controlled by the opposition? A Senate trial could prove very damaging to those who engineered the Russia hoax, the Hillary dismissal, the surveillance of the Trump campaign, and the so-called House Intelligence investigation. Imagine a damaging inspector general report, a thorough Senate trial and acquittal, and a devastating Durham investigation.
This will not be a good election year for Democrats; worse yet for their deep state allies and their cronies in the press.
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This impeachment thing is turning into a disaster for the Dems, and they’re desperately looking for an escape hatch that will allow them to make some kind of performative act without actually having to bring impeachment to a vote — a vote that will destroy them with independents and cost many Democrats their seats.
The Nevers want impeachment more than the Dems do. What does that tell you?
We means you, me and the rest of us. I admit I’ve put up posts I shouldn’t have when this guy has gotten under my skin, and I’ve seen some of yours that I thought were ill advised, even though I think you are the best advocate on Ricochet for your point of view. Gary is a good conservative and so are you and almost all the rest of the folks that post here. I hope we can get back to the way it was when I joined this site.
I’m a more passionate Never than Gary is, and I don’t think impeachment is the correct course.
I gave you my answer in Comment #73. You just don’t like my answer.
That the Nevers are especially courageous?
Gonna be awhile.
In reality, you gave a response that was not an answer to what was asked several times in #s 21, 27, 37, 43, 54, & 67.
I don’t think it’s unusual to not like an evasive response that doesn’t answer the question asked.
My point : I am a conservative, and that comment certainly does not apply to me
Speak for yourself.
On some levels I do appreciate those of you who at attempt (or go through the motions of) serious engagement with the complete intellectual unseriousness of the local buffoons like this. If for nothing else but to continuously expose how the positions are nonsense and those littering the site with them really are not doing so in good faith. It would be a shame to let it go unchallenged and would look bad to those without the proper background. But it does become tiresome and “painful” to watch the same scenario play out over and over again. How much “oxygen” is sucked out of other, more fruitful conversations here because valuable members are off doing “Gary” duty?
You don’t like my answer. To quote Judge Rose, “Ask another question.”
Glad to. When you answer the first one.
A simple alternative is just to say that you were winging the comment in question and have nothing concrete to support it. If that’s easier.
Shouldn’t “humor” (even as presented in political cartoons) have some basis in reality?
Perhaps we need a cartoon about how people who get their “news” from MSNBC, CNN, the NYT, and WaPo love to poke fun at Fox (which BTW they never watch).
I work full time. I have a full life. I just come to a different conclusion than you, and it appears that a majority of Americans concur with me. See you during the Senate Trial.
it should also be “funny”.
The left can’t meme.
I have watched Fox and Friends. I remember during a Republican Convention how proud I was that more people had watched them the morning beforehand than one of the main network morning show.
I also saw them totally unwilling and/or unable to question Trump when he said that Ted Cruz’s father helped kill Kennedy. At that point, I became unwilling to trust or watch Fox and Friends.
I still tune in for a few minutes now and then. Joe Scarborough has gone completely nuts and is unwatchable anymore, and I like the blonde infobabe.
I don’t get why anybody watches any TV news.
Excuse me, “news”.
Hair! Boy, that has been awhile for me!
I’d also have more years to live!
Oh yes. In these trying times, it is particularly brave to be anti-Trump. So many people afraid to speak up, especially journalists, who, as we know, are being thrown in prison every day for daring to speak out. So courageous of you!
They need medals. Lots of medals for their incredible courage.
Believe it or not, it can be daunting to be a “Country First” Republican at times in Ricochet.
One member has seen fit to “investigate” me, and to splash my record of political giving at Ricochet, something that we are seeing with people who now work in tech fields but contributed to Proposition 8 in 2004.
It won’t matter when Trump leaves the stage, because the Gary’s of the world will leave then too. From dust to dust, from Arizona Democrat to Arizona Democrat.
I am a Reagan Republican, and yearn for the return of the Party of Reagan.
I would actually entertain some of the nonsense if only these people would offer clarity and evidence instead of innuendo, obfuscation, falsehood, overreaction, partisanship, and emoting – over and over again.
None of whom had first-hand knowledge. Standard Disclaimer: Like Will Rogers, all I know is what I read in the papers.
It never hurts to know when to let something go.
@edg I’ve tried to make it clear that I’m interested in their arguments and viewpoints, if only to help clarify my own thoughts. And who knows, I might just be persuaded!