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Chick-fil-A Betrayal Worse Than We Thought
In addition to Chick-Fil-A corporate ceasing contributions to Christian organizations such as the Salvation Army and the Fellowship of Christian Athletes, we’re now learning it has funded many left-wing, anti-Christian (but, I repeat) outfits such as the SPLC, the Pace Center for Girls (pro-abortion), and Chris 180 (a “pro-LGBT behavioral health and child welfare service agency.” Wow, when the Left speaks of “child welfare services,” hide your children.) — for years! Read the gory details here.
It’s one thing for Chick-Fil-A to stop supporting Christians; it’s another for the corporation to go out of its way to poke us in the eye. Time to return the favor?
Meh, I never thought the chicken was that great anyway. I just feel bad for the franchise owners and all the Christian kids I know who work there because they get to observe the Lord’s Day with their families and receive good education benefits, in addition to excellent training. But, I won’t be fooled again. Chick-Fil-A is dead to me.
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Or out-not-care them to where it is worse for them that we don’t care than it is for us that they don’t.
I’m with Tim:
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I’ve only been a few times and don’t generally like fast food but their service is absolutely incredible. It’s all about the attitude.
Plus, I generally don’t think boycotts accomplish anything positive, though I did buycott them when they were under attack though, as I noted, my patronage didn’t amount to much.
Another example of just what is wrong with our tax system; the IRS has way too much say over every day decisions. The tax code, as interpreted by the IRS potentates, is too intrusive and manipulative. It is aimed at prodding us to do what our overlords believe is the ‘right’ thing to do. That could only be changed by scrapping the system and moving to a consumption based tax system such as but not limited to the Fair Tax.
We just watched this last night. Meg pulls that scene off, baby. So to speak.
PS: Spell Check has access to your search history.
I don’t think it’s an excuse to note that nearly every major corporation in America is managed by leftist executives.
If conservatives want to try to turn this one around before it veers farther Left or focus on Chic-Fil-A for other reasons, fair enough. But I doubt many people boycotting this fast food chain are boycotting all other chains, which similarly donate to evils alongside good organizations.
As a consumer, the best way to support Christian and Right-leaning companies is probably to buy from less convenient and more expensive local stores.
Agree. They have a good product and their staff is top notch. If you look at any company, you will find similar. I can’t avoid AT&T – or others who give to charities. We ate there over the weekend. The staff went to each table and checked on drinks, and if anyone needed anything and handed out mints. Some nice restaurants don’t even do that much. They advertise as a chicken restaurant, not a church.
Burger King never claimed a Christian outlook as far as I know — probably wouldn’t allow their franchises to close on Sundays.
So how is it today?
Thanks for asking. We’re going to find out about my daughter’s brain tumor this week (not looking good — vision compromised). So, I’m already in a state of angst. It’s looking like the end of the world from my perspective, but we’ve become practiced at not letting today be ruined by the worries of tomorrow. So, yeah. Go ahead and have your chicken sandwich served up with unparalleled fast food skill. It’s not going to ruin my day.
I can’t get on board with this boycott stuff in this context. Unless a company is doing something truly heinous, I think boycotts are silly and ineffective at best, regardless of which side is calling for them. At worst, they amount to bullying and are counterproductive.
I’m just not willing to let politics invade my life in this way. If I did, where would it end? By what principle is this idea limited to big companies? I have friends, neighbors, and family who are very progressive, and who I’m sure actively support progressive causes. Do I have to boycott them, too? Do I have to hope for, and if possible help bring about, their economic failure? Do you think that teaches them some kind of lesson?
I don’t want them doing that to me. I won’t do it to them.
This is kind of a situation where the company apparently was trying to appease its progressive critics with donations, but those flew under the radar until the overt decision was made to start defunding groups like the Salvation Army and the FCA. The main change, if any happens, is going to be simply that people aren’t going to seek out Chick-Fil-A stores over other outlets in the future.
They’re not going out of business, but their per-store sales advantage may disappear over the other fast food outlets. But if they get into foreign markets where leaders are as Christian-phobic as some Blue City mayors, the bean-counters running the company now won’t care.
Praying that the news will be better than you fear – much better.
I disagree, fully. There is no such thing as a Christian brand in business. If you were selling your sandwiches on the notion that people liked you because you were (to some degree) Christian, you were doing it wrong. You should sell sandwiches based on the value for money. How good are they compared to what you charge? On that score, Chik-fil-a is marginally better than the other fast food restaurants.
Now, you can run your business based on Christian principles, and that’s great. But it won’t get me to buy your sandwiches, especially if they are only marginally better than the competitor.
Said differently: I didn’t go out of my way to buy their food when I thought they were a Christian business, and I won’t go out of my way not to buy their sandwiches now that they’ve shown themselves to be the same as every other corporate entity out there.
PS – Don’t get me wrong: if I have to choose between two plumbing companies, let’s say, and I know the owner of the one to be a good Christian man who takes care of his people and his family, and I know nothing about the other, but the first one is a little more expensive, I’ll go with the Christian. But that’s nothing to do with brand. Rather it is based on what I know about the owner himself.
Who sez? Why should you lay down a moral imperative for sandwich sellers?
Sandwich sellers have always sold values and image along with their sandwiches. If not, there would be no advertising. Why are you telling them they should change?
There are very few exceptions to the rule that a business that touts itself as “chrisitian” is going to be inept or corrupt. That’s why they feel a need to make that claim. They either have to rely on pity customers or they are preying on praying customers.
I agree. My late wife and I ate there several times and we both agreed that the food was less than average.
Closed on Sunday, closed on Sunday, closed on Sunday. If that’s not Christian virtue signalling, I don’t know what is. Hobby Lobby is the only other major chain I know of that does it. If Hobby Lobby started selling “Shout Your Abortion” placards, like it does “Jesus is Lord,” I’d have to stop shopping there, too.
Christians flocked to Chick-fil-A when it was under attack for Dan Cathy’s support of traditional marriage. Is it too much to ask them to abstain from eating chicken sandwiches from there when we learn the company is taking a new, anti-Christian direction? Is there no line that can be crossed for all these principled conservatives? Maybe Catholics have an easier time of giving up chicken sandwiches due to the disciplines of abstention and fasting we practice, I dunno.
I’m still waiting for the first existentialist chicken sandwich to appear on the fast food market. So far, there is none to be found.
I dislike having to say it, but as a Christian, my response whenever encountering a local business that touted itself as a Christian business was to make sure my billfold was secure. At least that’s what I used to say 20-30 years ago. I had forgotten about that old guideline until you mentioned it.
You could switch to a consumption-based tax system but you’d still have the issue of what to do about non-profit exemptions, and you’d need the IRS for that. (When I worked for a public university it was sometimes a nuisance making small, local purchases without paying sales tax. But we dared not let sales tax appear on receipts. I mention this to give you an idea of the extent of the problem.)
If you say you’re going to eliminate non-profit exemptions I could support it, but that will kill your proposal deader than it was before, because the news media will produce a parade of churches and poorer charitable organizations who will be threatened by it.
If you want to eliminate non-profit tax exemptions because of the merits of that reform alone, you might get somewhere if you build up the case for it ahead of time and strike at the right time and place, but that reform will be complicated and rendered infeasible by including it in a switch from income to consumption-based taxes. (And I would personally do my best to oppose a switch from income to consumption-based taxes.)
The issue of non-profit foundations being a support system for the deep state is a scandal of its own, whose reform need not be complicated or rendered impossible by these other issues.
I am telling them they should change for two reasons:
First, because I am their customer. They may not care what I think, which is perfectly fine. But I buy sandwiches based on the quality and the price point. I routinely frequent a local subshop. I think it is owned by some Indian folks. They employ college kids mostly, some of whom I suspect are transgender. I don’t care. Because I can get a good sub at a decent price and the service is always above par for a sub-shop staffed by college kids.
If you wanna go based on their advertisements, nobody is stopping you. It’s your money.
Second, capitalism is about you offering me a product that is better than your competitor. That means the quality is better or the price is better, or a combination of both. I recognize that a lot of folks base their decision on what they see on the TV, and that’s their business.
And frankly, it’s not me laying down a moral imperative. It is WC. She says we should all be willing to “do something” about these heathens. I don’t need to do anything about them, because they haven’t gotten more than $50 of my money in the last 5 years. That’s a guess, but the point is that isn’t good value for money for me.
Hobby Lobby is a joke. Why anyone shops there, I don’t know. Again, I do not frequent the store because I find the products they sell unappealing. You can shop there or not, as is your wont. If you are shopping there just because you perceive them (rightly or wrongly) to be a Christian run business, that fine. You do you. But don’t demand that I go out of my way not to shop there on the day they day they start selling something you don’t like.
Here’s another one: Dick’s. Every time I see Dick’s I mutter “Dick’s is for dicks.” It’s easy for me: they have nothing there I want that I can’t get somewhere else cheaper. But if they sold 9mm ammo for as cheap as Wal-mart? I’d buy it.
Look, I remember when Geraldine Ferraro advertised for Pepsi back in the 80s. My mom made a big deal about not drinking Pepsi products. I can recall one time we were in the drive through at a fast food place and she specifically ordered Coke. They handed out cups that said Pepsi, and she gave them back. She made a big deal about it the girl in the window. “I don’t drink Pepsi because of Geraldine Ferraro!” I remember thinking “What the hell does that girl care?!” And I’m sure if we went and looked at how The Coca-Cola Company spent it’s money, we’d find some stuff we don’t like. I think boycotting a company because of their politics is silly.
With rare exception, indeed. I always bristle when I see the Jesus fish stamped on the side of some construction vehicle. I see it alot, where I live.
Spin, you have the wrong plumbing to appreciate Hobby Lobby. It is man hell. May be Christian , may be not Christian, but definitely supercharged with estrogen. Men are only dragged there by their wives.
I always like seeing Christian slogans and symbols on construction vehicles and trucks. The Church has allowed itself to be portrayed as feminine and effeminate, and has become so. I enjoy seeing the pushback.
When Hobby Lobby made the news, I thought “We need a good hobby store.” Then they said one was coming to town so I got excited. Hell, I went out at lunch to go check it out. It’s not a hobby lobby. It’s a Michael’s with a different name. Wrong plumbing, indeed!
It’s not pushback, though. It’s “We are a trustworthy company, you can tell by our Jesus fish!”
Then you should put it differently. You should say, “If they want my business, they should sell sandwiches based on the food and taste value for the money.” You shouldn’t leave out that first “if” clause. (See, I can say should, too!)
Capitalism is about a whole lot of things, including having the power to use one’s choices to benefit one’s self, one’s family, and the people and causes one identifies with. Under some other systems we don’t get to make those choices ourselves.
Oh, they are both moral imperatives. But yours annoyed me more.
Not too long ago, when Chick Fil A was donating to Salvation Army and Fellowship of Christian Athletes, they were accused of selling “Hate Chicken.”
So, should they now be accused of selling “Gay Chicken?”