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In addition to Chick-Fil-A corporate ceasing contributions to Christian organizations such as the Salvation Army and the Fellowship of Christian Athletes, we’re now learning it has funded many left-wing, anti-Christian (but, I repeat) outfits such as the SPLC, the Pace Center for Girls (pro-abortion), and Chris 180 (a “pro-LGBT behavioral health and child welfare service agency.” Wow, when the Left speaks of “child welfare services,” hide your children.) — for years! Read the gory details here.

It’s one thing for Chick-Fil-A to stop supporting Christians; it’s another for the corporation to go out of its way to poke us in the eye. Time to return the favor?

Meh, I never thought the chicken was that great anyway. I just feel bad for the franchise owners and all the Christian kids I know who work there because they get to observe the Lord’s Day with their families and receive good education benefits, in addition to excellent training. But, I won’t be fooled again. Chick-Fil-A is dead to me.

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  1. Jimmy Carter Member

    Western Chauvinist: Chick-Fil-A is dead to me.

    Same Here.

    If I were able to draw, I would draw six dudes in drag planting a rainbow flag on top of a Chick-Fil-A Iwo Jima style. 

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    • November 30, 2019, at 7:49 AM PST
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  2. Rodin Member

    I have never eaten at Chick-Fil-A. (Mrs Rodin is death on fast food.) But I have stayed at a Holiday Inn so I think I am smart enough about this to comment:

    Should social conservative leaders engage Chick-Fil-A’s board rather than firing broadsides in public? Seems to me that progressives are getting a bigger victory than they should have with the publicity of the conflict. Maybe that has already been tried, unsuccessfully, so this is social conservative leader’s plan B?

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    • November 30, 2019, at 7:57 AM PST
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  3. Kozak Member

    Yup. Just stop going.

    Let them sell to the Woke Ones.

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    • November 30, 2019, at 8:03 AM PST
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  4. I Walton Member

    At least I don’t have to force myself to eat there occasionally. I never liked it. 

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    • November 30, 2019, at 8:20 AM PST
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  5. OldDanRhody, 7152 Maple Dr. Member

    Rodin (View Comment):
    Should social conservative leaders engage Chick-Fil-A’s board rather than firing broadsides in public

    The flip-flop suggests to the cynical me that someone may have already contacted the board – perhaps with some information of personal interest to the various members.

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    • November 30, 2019, at 8:26 AM PST
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  6. AUMom Member

    I’m not particularly happy that ChickFilA supports causes I don’t like but I’ll keep going. Why?

    I like their spicy chicken sandwiches. 

    They have, by far, the best customer service of any fast food in the world. 

    They are fast and efficient, both in the drive-thru and in the dining room. When I hear “It’ll be my pleasure,” I believe it (and rarely do I give teenagers that credit). 

    Their bathrooms and dining rooms are always clean. 

    Their generosity to local schools, sports team, and hospitals is epic. Every disaster in the South, whether snow, tornado, shooting, cataclysmic wreck on the interstate, the local franchise steps up and feeds folk who need it. No questions asked or judgments made. 

     

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    • November 30, 2019, at 8:35 AM PST
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  7. Western Chauvinist Member
    Western Chauvinist Post author

    AUMom (View Comment):

    I’m not particularly happy that ChickFilA supports causes I don’t like but I’ll keep going. Why?

    I like their spicy chicken sandwiches.

    They have, by far, the best customer service of any fast food in the world.

    They are fast and efficient, both in the drive-thru and in the dining room. When I hear “It’ll be my pleasure,” I believe it (and rarely do I give teenagers that credit).

    Their bathrooms and dining rooms are always clean.

    Their generosity to local schools, sports team, and hospitals is epic. Every disaster in the South, whether snow, tornado, shooting, cataclysmic wreck on the interstate, the local franchise steps up and feeds folk who need it. No questions asked or judgments made.

     

    I hear ya’. But, unfortunately, corporate HQ has gone above and beyond knuckling under to the Left. I wish there was a way to support the local franchise while causing pain to HQ, but I don’t know how to do that. Strongly worded letters would probably have their usual effect. I’m afraid we have to hurt them where it counts — in the pocketbook. 

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    • November 30, 2019, at 8:51 AM PST
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  8. The Reticulator Member

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):
    I hear ya’. But, unfortunately, corporate HQ has gone above and beyond knuckling under to the Left. I wish there was a way to support the local franchise while causing pain to HQ, but I don’t know how to do that. Strongly worded letters would probably have their usual effect. I’m afraid we have to hurt them where it counts — in the pocketbook. 

    I’ve only been in a Chick-Fil-A twice, so my boycott won’t make a lot of difference. I will not send a strongly worded letter, though. Such letters just give them an excuse to tell themselves how courageous and martyrific they are for acting in the face of opposition and lost sales. I don’t want to give them that satisfaction, and besides, I figure they don’t deserve to know why we’re staying away.

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    • November 30, 2019, at 9:33 AM PST
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  9. Western Chauvinist Member
    Western Chauvinist Post author

    The Reticulator (View Comment):
    I figure they don’t deserve to know why we’re staying away.

    Oh, they know. They just don’t care. We have to make them care.

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    • November 30, 2019, at 9:47 AM PST
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  10. Full Size Tabby Member

    AUMom (View Comment):

    They have, by far, the best customer service of any fast food in the world. 

    They are fast and efficient, both in the drive-thru and in the dining room. When I hear “It’ll be my pleasure,” I believe it (and rarely do I give teenagers that credit). 

    Their bathrooms and dining rooms are always clean. 

     

    I like their food but don’t eat there very often (Mrs. Tabby tries to control my consumption of deep-fried food, and even if I eat their grilled chicken, I still need the waffle fries).

    I doubt that a conservative boycott will be particularly effective. My expectation is that as Corporate becomes more aligned with “woke” culture, the Christian culture that is the basis for the outstanding customer service and employee joy will diminish, and the customer service and employee attitude will revert to the mean for fast food enterprises. Chick-fil-A will lose many of the attributes that made it so successful. And Corporate will be scratching their heads wondering why their “numbers” are no longer best in the industry.

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    • November 30, 2019, at 12:53 PM PST
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  11. PHCheese Member

    Are we damm sure this isn’t fake news?

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    • November 30, 2019, at 1:17 PM PST
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  12. EHerring Coolidge

    I go where I get good food and service. I will go there when it suits me. I made a point of going there when the left attacked them. If they want to support the left in the future, then I will consider the left’s attacks on them a family spat and not get involved. I will still go there when it suits me.

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    • November 30, 2019, at 1:35 PM PST
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  13. The Reticulator Member

    EHerring (View Comment):

    I go where I get good food and service. I will go there when it suits me. I made a point of going there when the left attacked them. If they want to support the left in the future, then I will consider the left’s attacks on them a family spat and not get involved. I will still go there when it suits me.

    So will I. And it will suit me to boycott the place. (Not that I boycott every last aggressively leftish business. I’ve weaned myself from some Google services, for example, but not all of them. But it will suit me to boycott Chik-Fil-A, as well as others.)

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    • November 30, 2019, at 1:42 PM PST
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  14. MichaelKennedy Coolidge

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):
    unfortunately, corporate HQ has gone above and beyond knuckling under to the Left. I wish there was a way to support the local franchise while causing pain to HQ, but I don’t know how to do that. Strongly worded letters would probably have their usual effect. I’m afraid we have to hurt them where it counts — in the pocketbook. 

    It’s the foundation, not the corp, I understand. They hired an Obama bot as CEO of the foundation.

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    • November 30, 2019, at 2:18 PM PST
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  15. E. Kent Golding Member

    I like Chick Fil A food. Not to a “When Harry Met Sally” extent, but I like the food. 

    The current CEO and current COO have a different faith than the founder. The current CEO and COO are being true to their faith, which is opposed to my faith.

    I will go to Chick Fil A when there is nothing close or better in food quality nearby. But they will lose all ties, and I will pick something marginally worse to avoid them.

    Spell Check keeps wanting to change it to Chick Oil.

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    • November 30, 2019, at 2:20 PM PST
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  16. Spin Coolidge

    Western Chauvinist: Time to return the favor?

    How? I don’t go there. The food isn’t great. It’s just like every other fast food restaurant.

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    • November 30, 2019, at 3:20 PM PST
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  17. Spin Coolidge

    E. Kent Golding (View Comment):
    “When Harry Met Sally”

    I’d like to see that. Roooowwwwr!

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    • November 30, 2019, at 3:20 PM PST
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  18. Skyler Coolidge

    If I stop buying from companies that don’t share my political ideology then I will be very hungry. 

    Chick Fil-A is just too yummy to quit them. Their service is great too.

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    • November 30, 2019, at 3:56 PM PST
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  19. Skyler Coolidge

    Spin (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist: Time to return the favor?

    How? I don’t go there. The food isn’t great. It’s just like every other fast food restaurant.

    Blasphemer!

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    • November 30, 2019, at 3:57 PM PST
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  20. The Reticulator Member

    Skyler (View Comment):

    If I stop buying from companies that don’t share my political ideology then I will be very hungry.

    Chick Fil-A is just too yummy to quit them. Their service is great too.

    There is no company that shares my political ideology, and never will be, so that would be a problem for me, too. But I’ll give up a certain amount of yumminess to oppose people who want to destroy us. I give up some yumminess for reasons of personal health, so why not for national wellbeing, too? 

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    • November 30, 2019, at 4:07 PM PST
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  21. 9thDistrictNeighbor Member

    Of all the food options at BWI airport yesterday, Chick-Fil-A had the longest line.

    I want to try Popeye’s spicy chicken sandwich. Chick-Fil-A’s is just to salty. However, no fast-food chicken sandwich is worth a brawl.

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    • November 30, 2019, at 5:37 PM PST
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  22. The Reticulator Member

    9thDistrictNeighbor (View Comment):

    Of all the food options at BWI airport yesterday, Chick-Fil-A had the longest line.

    BWI is in the dark heart of the oppressor stronghold, isn’t it?

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    • November 30, 2019, at 5:41 PM PST
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  23. Jules PA Member

    Didn’t the founder of Chick-fil-A recently move on to heaven?

    I’m not sure why everyone is so surprised that when the aged founder is gone things would change. Plus, as stated in an earlier comment, this recent switch is the Foundation, not the Corporation…are they not two separate entities, even though Corporate would seem to feed the Foundation ?

    The corporation will follow the heart of its leaders. The Foundation the same. The owners of the local franchises will follow theirs.

    Wouldn’t connecting and praising the local franchise owners be a stronger way to express the praise for what has been observed as a positive business model and community connection?

    I think much of what we observe in regards to community reflects the local owner.

    I will be curious to see what happens over the next few years with Chick-fil-A…

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    • November 30, 2019, at 5:52 PM PST
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  24. Jules PA Member

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    9thDistrictNeighbor (View Comment):

    Of all the food options at BWI airport yesterday, Chick-Fil-A had the longest line.

    BWI is in the dark heart of the oppressor stronghold, isn’t it?

    I recently went to a CFA on the NJ Turnpike. It did have a long line: we waited for something better. However, it was the worst CFA experience I’ve ever had, including a limited menu that did not have the Chicken Strips. But, I waited in line, knowing the kerfuffle with the Foundation, and the limited menu, because I believe even that lowly CFA would exceed what I might have experienced at Burger King in the stand next door. 

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    • November 30, 2019, at 5:55 PM PST
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  25. Judge Mental Member

    Jules PA (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    9thDistrictNeighbor (View Comment):

    Of all the food options at BWI airport yesterday, Chick-Fil-A had the longest line.

    BWI is in the dark heart of the oppressor stronghold, isn’t it?

    I recently went to a CFA on the NJ Turnpike. It did have a long line: we waited for something better. However, it was the worst CFA experience I’ve ever had, including a limited menu that did not have the Chicken Strips. But, I waited in line, knowing the kerfuffle with the Foundation, and the limited menu, because I believe even that lowly CFA would exceed what I might have experienced at Burger King in the stand next door.

    Those stops on the turnpikes are almost uniformly bad. My best luck was going with the less popular places. Whether it was a result of being less harried or having more motivation, they seemed to do better.

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  26. The Reticulator Member

    MichaelKennedy (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):
    unfortunately, corporate HQ has gone above and beyond knuckling under to the Left. I wish there was a way to support the local franchise while causing pain to HQ, but I don’t know how to do that. Strongly worded letters would probably have their usual effect. I’m afraid we have to hurt them where it counts — in the pocketbook.

    It’s the foundation, not the corp, I understand. They hired an Obama bot as CEO of the foundation.

    That’s a good point to know about. IRS regulations require a good degree of separation between foundations and the corporation in cases like this. They can only own a certain minority share of the corporation’s stock. I don’t know what that percentage is, but there was a big deal about it around here back when a local foundation had to divest itself of a large amount of the shares of the founder’s corporation in order to comply with new IRS regs. 

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  27. Skyler Coolidge

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    MichaelKennedy (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):
    unfortunately, corporate HQ has gone above and beyond knuckling under to the Left. I wish there was a way to support the local franchise while causing pain to HQ, but I don’t know how to do that. Strongly worded letters would probably have their usual effect. I’m afraid we have to hurt them where it counts — in the pocketbook.

    It’s the foundation, not the corp, I understand. They hired an Obama bot as CEO of the foundation.

    That’s a good point to know about. IRS regulations require a good degree of separation between foundations and the corporation in cases like this. They can only own a certain minority share of the corporation’s stock. I don’t know what that percentage is, but there was a big deal about it around here back when a local foundation had to divest itself of a large amount of the shares of the founder’s corporation in order to comply with new IRS regs.

    I suspect that at least part of the Obama bot’s role was to keep Obama’s IRS off their back.

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  28. The Reticulator Member

    Skyler (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    MichaelKennedy (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):
    unfortunately, corporate HQ has gone above and beyond knuckling under to the Left. I wish there was a way to support the local franchise while causing pain to HQ, but I don’t know how to do that. Strongly worded letters would probably have their usual effect. I’m afraid we have to hurt them where it counts — in the pocketbook.

    It’s the foundation, not the corp, I understand. They hired an Obama bot as CEO of the foundation.

    That’s a good point to know about. IRS regulations require a good degree of separation between foundations and the corporation in cases like this. They can only own a certain minority share of the corporation’s stock. I don’t know what that percentage is, but there was a big deal about it around here back when a local foundation had to divest itself of a large amount of the shares of the founder’s corporation in order to comply with new IRS regs.

    I suspect that at least part of the Obama bot’s role was to keep Obama’s IRS off their back.

    I dunno. Foundations have a way of turning hard left, no matter the founding entrepreneur’s explicitly stated intentions. 

    A reform I would like to see would be that any non-profit Foundation be required to spend out all assets within, say, 50 years of its founding. And it wouldn’t be allowed to just roll them over into a new foundation. It would have to be a little more complicated than that, in cases where the foundation is endowed with appreciating assets such as shares in the corporation whose name it shares, but something needs to be done to end these tax advantages for the ruling class. 

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  29. Western Chauvinist Member
    Western Chauvinist Post author

    This is why conservatives are never gonna win the culture war. We’re always looking for excuses not to act. 

    Chick-fil-A’s brand is Christian — closed on Sundays, polite and efficient service the rest of the week. How is it okay if the Foundation is supporting blatantly anti-Christian (and harmful to humanity) causes so long as the corporation maintains its Christian facade? Because the IRS keeps them separate? Puhleaze. 

    Other fast food chains don’t cultivate a Christian brand and then abandon it when they want to open stores in progressive cities here and abroad. 

    “Well, yes, public education is destroying the country, but my kids have good teachers, so I won’t pull them out of our public schools.”

    “It’s the foundation screwing over Christians, so sell me another chicken sandwich Mr. corporate Chick-fil-A!”

    I dunno, I’m sick of being a member of the only non-threatening group in the battle for soul of America. Maybe I just need sleep. Yeah, that’s the ticket. It’ll all be better when I wake up tomorrow.

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  30. Eustace C. Scrubb Member

    I might still go to Chick Fil A on occasion. But I used to make a special effort to go because they supported groups like the Salvation Army. That effort will no longer be made.

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    • November 30, 2019, at 9:12 PM PST
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