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Frank DeBoer, the future former coach of Major League Soccer’s Atlanta United team, recently expressed skepticism about the equal pay demands of the the US Women’s soccer team. He points out that if they bring in the same number of fans, and the same amount of advertising, of course they’ll be paid the same. But if their draw is different, their pay is likely to be different, and he doesn’t see the problem with that. He is Dutch, so forgive the odd English in his quotes:

“I think for me, it’s ridiculous. If there are watching, for the World Cup final, 500 million people or something like that, and 100 million for a women’s final, that’s a difference. So it’s not the same. And of course they have to be paid what they deserve to [earn] and not less, just what they really deserve. If it’s just as popular as the men, they will get it, because the income and the advertising will go into that. But it’s not like that, so why do they have to earn the same? I think it’s ridiculous. I don’t understand that.”

Allow me to go way out on a limb, and predict what is likely to happen, and when:

  1. In 2-3 days, he releases a Tweet stating his regret for offending anyone.
  2. In 4-5 days, he appears in public and offers a tearful apology for his obvious hatred of women.
  3. In 1 week, his employer announces an internal review of Mr. DeBoer’s conduct.
  4. In 2 weeks, his employer accepts his resignation.
  5. In 3 weeks, he and his family are chased out of an Appleby’s by an angry mob of woke millenials.
  6. In a month, he moves back to the Netherlands, hoping that they’re not insane there, too.

What do you think? Am I close?

Many of those in athletics are so ingrained in the culture of performance, and earning what you get, that complaints about fairness really don’t make sense to them. He probably really doesn’t understand why this is such a big deal.

He’s about to find out, I suspect.

Good luck, buddy…

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There are 11 comments.

  1. Vance Richards Member

    Dr. Bastiat: I think for me, it’s ridiculous. If there are watching, for the World Cup final, 500 million people or something like that, and 100 million for a women’s final, that’s a difference. So it’s not the same.

    That is a completely logical quote. If they generate less revenue, then they should expect less pay . . . whether they are champions or not. But when I clicked on the link the Fox headline is:

    Atlanta United coach Frank de Boer says equal pay fight is ‘ridiculous:’ ‘Why do they have to earn the same?’

     “Equal pay is ridiculous” is what people will see without any reference to revenue, and that does look bad. So, your timeline is probably valid, assuming anyone pays attention to MLS. Some of us (ok, probably just me) didn’t even know there was a pro-soccer league in America.

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    • August 14, 2019, at 11:26 AM PDT
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  2. tigerlily Member

    Ha! In point of fact it turns out that the US Women’s soccer team out-earns the US Men’s soccer team. I wonder how many of those who have been passionately calling for pay equity between men and women in athletics will now be calling for the women to share and share alike with the men.

    • #2
    • August 14, 2019, at 11:26 AM PDT
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  3. Dr. Bastiat Member
    Dr. Bastiat Post author

    Vance Richards (View Comment):
    “Equal pay is ridiculous” is what people will see without any reference to revenue, and that does look bad.

    Good point.

    • #3
    • August 14, 2019, at 11:28 AM PDT
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  4. cdor Member

    Vance Richards (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat: I think for me, it’s ridiculous. If there are watching, for the World Cup final, 500 million people or something like that, and 100 million for a women’s final, that’s a difference. So it’s not the same.

    That is a completely logical quote. If they generate less revenue, then they should expect less pay . . . whether they are champions or not. But when I clicked on the link the Fox headline is:

    Atlanta United coach Frank de Boer says equal pay fight is ‘ridiculous:’ ‘Why do they have to earn the same?’

    “Equal pay is ridiculous” is what people will see without any reference to revenue, and that does look bad. So, your timeline is probably valid, assuming anyone pays attention to MLS. Some of us (ok, probably just me) didn’t even know there was a pro-soccer league in America.

    Wait, isn’t that our RIGHT WING Fox News? What a lying crock!

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    • August 14, 2019, at 2:36 PM PDT
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  5. The Reticulator Member

    You could be a scriptwriter for the news industry. I’m not sure it pays as well as your current gig, but you’d get to hang around with… On second thought, keep your day job.

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    • August 14, 2019, at 9:04 PM PDT
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  6. Old Bathos Member

    I am so triggered… how is this the permitted? And to compound the patriarchal assault on my sensibilities, @vancerichards used the word “logical” to describe it which is itself a form of rape, much like math or all that mansplaining nonsense about “markets” and “economic reality”.

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    • August 15, 2019, at 7:15 AM PDT
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  7. Western Chauvinist Member

    I suspect your timeline is a little extended…

    • #7
    • August 16, 2019, at 8:43 AM PDT
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  8. Vance Richards Member

    We have Step 1.

    “I am proud to be a part of a club that embraces equality, and I apologize for any distraction this has become for our team and organization.” — Frank de Boer

    • #8
    • August 16, 2019, at 10:12 AM PDT
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  9. Ralphie Member

    I hope he doesn’t apologize; when you are forced to aplogize, it isn’t an apology, and those demanding it know it, and move on to further demands. It is enjoyable to them.

    Women soccer players are not as good as men, if they are paid the same, they would actually be better paid.

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    • August 16, 2019, at 11:12 AM PDT
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  10. Dr. Bastiat Member
    Dr. Bastiat Post author

    Vance Richards (View Comment):

    We have Step 1.

    “I am proud to be a part of a club that embraces equality, and I apologize for any distraction this has become for our team and organization.” — Frank de Boer

    I am SO brilliant! Ha! 

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    • August 16, 2019, at 1:44 PM PDT
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  11. Vance Richards Member

    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    Vance Richards (View Comment):

    We have Step 1.

    “I am proud to be a part of a club that embraces equality, and I apologize for any distraction this has become for our team and organization.” — Frank de Boer

    I am SO brilliant! Ha!

    It’s like you have seen this show before 

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    • August 16, 2019, at 3:43 PM PDT
    • 2 likes