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  1. Susan Quinn Contributor
    Susan Quinn
    @SusanQuinn

    Unbelievable. Such disrespect for the President and disregard for the ICE officers. He can’t be gone soon enough.

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  2. Hoyacon Member
    Hoyacon
    @Hoyacon

    Maybe, maybe not.  I was surprised at the sourcing, but then I don’t think much of anonymous sources no matter which way the story breaks.

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  3. Susan Quinn Contributor
    Susan Quinn
    @SusanQuinn

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Maybe, maybe not. I was surprised at the sourcing, but then I don’t think much of anonymous sources no matter which way the story breaks.

    To me, the Washington Examiner has lots more credibility than WaPo or the NYT. I would hope they’d know their sources better and with multiple reports, it’s pretty convincing.

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  4. Hoyacon Member
    Hoyacon
    @Hoyacon

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Maybe, maybe not. I was surprised at the sourcing, but then I don’t think much of anonymous sources no matter which way the story breaks.

    To me, the Washington Examiner has lots more credibility than WaPo or the NYT. I would hope they’d know their sources better and with multiple reports, it’s pretty convincing.

    Agree to disagree.  Again, he may have been a leaker but the article also has the earmarks of a hit job to me.  Go on the record or be quiet.

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  5. MichaelKennedy Inactive
    MichaelKennedy
    @MichaelKennedy

    He could deny it but I think he is on his way out.  The ICE director Tom Homan has declined the Border “Czar” position unless the DHS guy is gone.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/15/tom-homan-i-havent-accepted-border-czar-post/

    The hard left really objects !

    https://crooksandliars.com/2018/11/former-ice-director-thanks-fox-news

    Meaning it is certainly true.

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  6. Hoyacon Member
    Hoyacon
    @Hoyacon

    MichaelKennedy (View Comment):

    He could deny it but I think he is on his way out. The ICE director Tom Homan has declined the Border “Czar” position unless the DHS guy is gone.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/15/tom-homan-i-havent-accepted-border-czar-post/

    Does the article say that?

     

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  7. EtCarter Member
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    When actual law enforcement is engaged in a go-situation, what does it take to be charged with obstruction ?   (Trying not to sound smart-alecky, cause I’m really keen to know, please.)

    I have a CL manual for 2019 and a federal CCM 3rd edition, but nothing on current policy and procedures for ICE. Thanks

    et carter

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  8. EtCarter Member
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    BTW, are NHS still connected to the USCG? 

    UCMJ might have a remedy assessment quite different than civilian law, yknow?

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  9. Unsk Member
    Unsk
    @Unsk

    Our Administrative State bureaucracy has clearly begun to see itself as above the law,  and not subject to the power hierarchy as laid out in the Constitution.   Never fear,  with Alito’s comments on the latest Administrative State court case, it now appears that there is a majority on the Supreme Court that wants to cut severely back on the un-Constitutional grabbing of power by our bureaucrats at last, and if Ginsberg dies and another conservative is appointed that majority may become rock solid.

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  10. Kozak Member
    Kozak
    @Kozak

    OccupantCDN:

    I would hope that Kevin is soon able to enjoy his unemployment, as I also hope that he is quickly heading to prison for leaking information about a pending law enforcement actions.

     

    Probably will get hired by MSNCNNBCBS etc.    But I would like to see the book thrown at him for this.

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  11. Kozak Member
    Kozak
    @Kozak

    Unsk (View Comment):
    and if Ginsberg dies and another conservative is appointed that majority may become rock solid.

    I don’t think the Left will accept her death as a reason to remove her from the court.

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  12. OccupantCDN Coolidge
    OccupantCDN
    @OccupantCDN

    https://twitter.com/Anna_Giaritelli/status/1142635210577723392?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1142635210577723392&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2Fgregp-3534%2F2019%2F06%2F23%2Fbig-if-true-trump-officials-say-acting-dhs-sec-kevin-mcaleenan-behind-leak-of-ice-raid-details%2F

     

     

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  13. Hoyacon Member
    Hoyacon
    @Hoyacon

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    So the same as the original story.  Name names, madam.  I’d thought we’d had enough of “anonymous sources.”

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  14. Percival Thatcher
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    @Percival

    Kozak (View Comment):

    Unsk (View Comment):
    and if Ginsberg dies and another conservative is appointed that majority may become rock solid.

    I don’t think the Left will accept her death as a reason to remove her from the court.

    Well, if dead people can vote in Cook County …

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  15. Clifford A. Brown Member
    Clifford A. Brown
    @CliffordBrown

    A certified member of the deep state, a leftist mole:

    McAleenan is a career official who previously served as the deputy commissioner during President Barack Obama’s administration. As commissioner of CBP, he oversaw 60,000 employees and managed a budget of more than $13 billion, according to the department’s website.

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  16. MichaelKennedy Inactive
    MichaelKennedy
    @MichaelKennedy

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Does the article say that?

     

    No but he has strongly implied it in interviews.  So ?

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  17. MichaelKennedy Inactive
    MichaelKennedy
    @MichaelKennedy

    I have seen a good amount of angst by conservatives who do not like Trump that he has “failed” in his promises about the border.  I think Ann Coulter is one.  My reply is “Do you expect him to personally go into Hispanic neighborhoods and arrest resident who are scofflaw illegals and haul them away?  Here is an example of why he has struggled, in spite of Obama judges in Hawaii, etc, to enforce his will on the immigration problem.

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  18. Miffed White Male Member
    Miffed White Male
    @MiffedWhiteMale

    MichaelKennedy (View Comment):

    I have seen a good amount of angst by conservatives who do not like Trump that he has “failed” in his promises about the border. I think Ann Coulter is one. My reply is “Do you expect him to personally go into Hispanic neighborhoods and arrest resident who are scofflaw illegals and haul them away? Here is an example of why he has struggled, in spite of Obama judges in Hawaii, etc, to enforce his will on the immigration problem.

    If we can’t deport people who’ve already had their asylum claims adjudicated and rejected, we can’t deport anyone.

     

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  19. Hoyacon Member
    Hoyacon
    @Hoyacon

    MichaelKennedy (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Does the article say that?

     

    No but he has strongly implied it in interviews. So ?

    No biggie. But when a source is cited, is it unreasonable to think the source will support the statement?

     

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  20. Hoyacon Member
    Hoyacon
    @Hoyacon

    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    A certified member of the deep state, a leftist mole:

    McAleenan is a career official who previously served as the deputy commissioner during President Barack Obama’s administration. As commissioner of CBP, he oversaw 60,000 employees and managed a budget of more than $13 billion, according to the department’s website.

    Don’t we need to add . . . who was appointed by President Trump to his present position.

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  21. MichaelKennedy Inactive
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    @MichaelKennedy

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Don’t we need to add . . . who was appointed by President Trump to his present position.

    Trump is very alone in DC and the bureaucracy has been hostile since day one,. A few career staff, like Mike Rogers at NSA, have done their jobs and been loyal to the Constitution.  96% of DC voters voted for Hillary and I suspect most of northern Virginia and southern Maryland did the same. They are the permanent Administrative State and  its minions.  He has had a hard time getting loyalty from appointees as they are also part of the Deep State. Even Sessions bailed out on him at the first pushback from the Democrats.  He is having to work his way along, learning who is a patriot and who is a weasel.

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  22. EtCarter Member
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    MichaelKennedy (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Don’t we need to add . . . who was appointed by President Trump to his present position.

    Trump is very alone in DC and the bureaucracy has been hostile since day one,. A few career staff, like Mike Rogers at NSA, have done their jobs and been loyal to the Constitution. 96% of DC voters voted for Hillary and I suspect most of northern Virginia and southern Maryland did the same. They are the permanent Administrative State and its minions. He has had a hard time getting loyalty from appointees as they are also part of the Deep State. Even Sessions bailed out on him at the first pushback from the Democrats. He is having to work his way along, learning who is a patriot and who is a weasel.

    I’m glad you brought that to public attention.  

    There exist very aggressively hostile nations who are very aware that the US agencies they usually fear are currently spending all their manpower, money, and investigative tools to implant their heads so far up Trumps gluteus maximus that aforementioned nations have practical invisibility to do what spies do to undermine self-absorbed nations as the US bureaucratic partisans have made it for the President. (apologies for the long sentence. the editor is off duty)  

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  23. CarolJoy, Above Top Secret Coolidge
    CarolJoy, Above Top Secret
    @CarolJoy

    EtCarter (View Comment):

    When actual law enforcement is engaged in a go-situation, what does it take to be charged with obstruction ? (Trying not to sound smart-alecky, cause I’m really keen to know, please.)

    I have a CL manual for 2019 and a federal CCM 3rd edition, but nothing on current policy and procedures for ICE. Thanks

    et carter

    In California, it has to be one tricky situation, as the Attorney General for the State of California has made it semi legal at best and possibly illegal at worst to do anything that hinders the lives of any new arrivals from anywhere.

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  24. The Cloaked Gaijin Member
    The Cloaked Gaijin
    @TheCloakedGaijin

    The Trump administration would have been doing so much better if they had appointed Jeff Sessions as Secretary of Homeland Security instead of Attorney General.  The office of Attorney General is one of the four great original cabinet offices, but that was not where Jeff Sessions should have been placed.  In many ways Sessions was right to recuse himself from the Russia investigation.  Besides he didn’t know that Rod Rosenstein and very especially Robert Mueller were going to go completely crazy.

    If not Sessions, someone like Kris Kobach should have had the job from Day One.

    Rick Santorum was one of the few 2016 presidential candidates that was a bit tough on immigration.  Perhaps this compassionate conservative former senator could pass a confirmation.  There would be hardly be any secretaries of anything, if the Democrats controlled the Senate.

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  25. The Cloaked Gaijin Member
    The Cloaked Gaijin
    @TheCloakedGaijin

    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    A certified member of the deep state, a leftist mole:

    McAleenan is a career official who previously served as the deputy commissioner during President Barack Obama’s administration. As commissioner of CBP, he oversaw 60,000 employees and managed a budget of more than $13 billion, according to the department’s website.

    Just a big waste of time.

    When the Democrats or people like pro-amnesty no-wall Paul Ryan can’t beat Trump, they simply delay and delay and delay.  The result is the same as if Obama was still in office.

    Heck, make John Bolton Secretary of Homeland Security, Defense Secretary, and/or chief of staff.  Bolton is smart enough to handle a few jobs.

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  26. Cato Rand Inactive
    Cato Rand
    @CatoRand

    As I understand it these raids were limited to people who were ignoring deportation orders.

    That means: 1) they either entered the country illegally or entered legally and stayed illegally; 2) they had a full hearing, usually after tons of delay, to adjudicate their right to stay; 3) they were unable to demonstrate any legal right to stay and were ordered to leave; and 4) they disregarded the order to leave and stayed anyway.

    I like immigrants.  I think we probably need more of them.  I am not a xenophobe.  But come on.  If these people can’t be deported no one can.  We might as well just shut down the whole immigration operation and hang a sign that says “come on in, everything’s free.”  You literally have to oppose all immigration law to oppose deporting the people targeted by these raids – scofflaws who’ve broken our laws multiple times and been afforded full and fair process.  What more could they be owed?

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  27. RyanFalcone Member
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    @RyanFalcone

    Percival (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):

    Unsk (View Comment):
    and if Ginsberg dies and another conservative is appointed that majority may become rock solid.

    I don’t think the Left will accept her death as a reason to remove her from the court.

    Well, if dead people can vote in Cook County …

    The bigotry of you people is appalling.  Merely being oxygen intolerant does not make someone less than human you necrophobes!

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  28. cdor Member
    cdor
    @cdor

    MichaelKennedy (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Don’t we need to add . . . who was appointed by President Trump to his present position.

    Trump is very alone in DC and the bureaucracy has been hostile since day one,. A few career staff, like Mike Rogers at NSA, have done their jobs and been loyal to the Constitution. 96% of DC voters voted for Hillary and I suspect most of northern Virginia and southern Maryland did the same. They are the permanent Administrative State and its minions. He has had a hard time getting loyalty from appointees as they are also part of the Deep State. Even Sessions bailed out on him at the first pushback from the Democrats. He is having to work his way along, learning who is a patriot and who is a weasel.

    It can’t be done overnight, but one real fix is disbursement. Lately Secretary of Agriculture, Sonny Purdue, has set out to move an entire division of bureaucrats out of D.C. to Kansas City, Missouri. They, of course, are objecting strenuously. I say great. Let them resign. Our Federal bureaucracy needs to be moved out of Washington D.C. and re-positioned throughout flyover country, to better represent to people of this country. Diversity of thought is a foreign concept to the left, but it would certainly be useful in our Federal administrative state.

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  29. cdor Member
    cdor
    @cdor

    The Cloaked Gaijin (View Comment):

    The Trump administration would have been doing so much better if they had appointed Jeff Sessions as Secretary of Homeland Security instead of Attorney General. The office of Attorney General is one of the four great original cabinet offices, but that was not where Jeff Sessions should have been placed. In many ways Sessions was right to recuse himself from the Russia investigation. Besides he didn’t know that Rod Rosenstein and very especially Robert Mueller were going to go completely crazy.

    If not Sessions, someone like Kris Kobach should have had the job from Day One.

    Rick Santorum was one of the few 2016 presidential candidates that was a bit tough on immigration. Perhaps this compassionate conservative former senator could pass a confirmation. There would be hardly be any secretaries of anything, if the Democrats controlled the Senate.

    I’ll use my 20-20 hindsight here and suggest the best thing Jeff Sessions could have done is remain Senator from Alabama.

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  30. Jon1979 Inactive
    Jon1979
    @Jon1979

    MichaelKennedy (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Don’t we need to add . . . who was appointed by President Trump to his present position.

    Trump is very alone in DC and the bureaucracy has been hostile since day one,. A few career staff, like Mike Rogers at NSA, have done their jobs and been loyal to the Constitution. 96% of DC voters voted for Hillary and I suspect most of northern Virginia and southern Maryland did the same. They are the permanent Administrative State and its minions. He has had a hard time getting loyalty from appointees as they are also part of the Deep State. Even Sessions bailed out on him at the first pushback from the Democrats. He is having to work his way along, learning who is a patriot and who is a weasel.

    Unlike, say, last week’s situation with Iraq, where people got irked at Trump because he didn’t release the hounds after the drone was shot down, he really does need to act here to at the very least suspect McAleenan pending an investigation, if not fire him outright. Failure to do so would start bringing up questions about how in the administration was on the ICE actions in the first place, and will give ammunition to Trump’s critics to his right like Coulter that he’s failed to live up to his promises on border security not simply because he’s being blocked by Democrats and GOP business people who want cheap labor.

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