The Border Wall Is Now a Pay Wall

 

From the San Diego Tribune:

Two groups of Central American migrants made separate marches on the U.S. Consulate in Tijuana Tuesday, demanding that they be processed through the asylum system more quickly and in greater numbers, that deportations be halted and that President Trump either let them into the country or pay them $50,000 each to go home.

There are also demands for reparations.

“It may seem like a lot of money to you,” Ulloa said. “But it is a small sum compared to everything the United States has stolen from Honduras.”

The group’s letter criticized American intervention in Central America. They gave the U.S. Consulate 72 hours to respond. They said they had not decided what to do if their demands were not met.

“It may seem like a lot of money to you,” Ulloa said. “But it is a small sum compared to everything the United States has stolen from Honduras.”

The group’s letter criticized American intervention in Central America. They gave the U.S. Consulate 72 hours to respond. They said they had not decided what to do if their demands were not met.

The letter said the group is made up of, “families, women and children, the majority of which are young men who are fleeing from poverty, insecurity and political repression under the dictatorship of Juan Orlando Hernandez.”

Orlando Hernandez is the president of Honduras. Their letter also asked the U.S. to remove Orlando Hernandez from office.

There are two letters from two different groups that were presented to the US Consulate in Tijuana. The reparation demands seem somewhat confusing. Money for past intervention by the US, but they would like one more intervention to end the dictatorship of Juan Orlando Hernandez.

Now lest you think that the demands to be paid for not doing something are unique to those outside our borders I seem to remember members of our own political class that ran for office on free college tuition proposals. Try as I might I cannot remember college and university professors marching in the streets demanding that they not be paid for teaching their courses.

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  1. Joe Pas Inactive
    Joe Pas
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    “You owe us for all of your intervening in our country! Also, please forcibly remove our president.” 

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  2. OkieSailor Member
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    Doug Watt: The reparation demands seem somewhat confusing. Money for past intervention by the US, but they would like one more intervention to end the dictatorship of Juan Orlando Hernandez.

    UmHmmm. They should be turned away with nothing but be sure to make this ridiculous request a permanent part of their record should they ever seek entry into the U.S.

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  3. Percival Thatcher
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    Doug Watt: They said they had not decided what to do if their demands were not met.

    Sit on their thumbs and spin.

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  4. Spin Inactive
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    “We thought they would let us in. But Trump sent the military instead of social workers.”

    Can someone tell me what is wrong with these people?  You show up en masse at the border making demands, and you want social workers?  

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  5. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
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    Spin (View Comment):

    “We thought they would let us in. But Trump sent the military instead of social workers.”

    Can someone tell me what is wrong with these people? You show up en masse at the border making demands, and you want social workers?

    The people in the caravan were fooled by their community organizers.  

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  6. GLDIII Reagan
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    “We thought they would let us in. But Trump sent the military instead of social workers.”

    Can someone tell me what is wrong with these people? You show up en masse at the border making demands, and you want social workers?

    The people in the caravan were fooled by their community organizers.

    Fact Check:  Always true

    FIFY

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  7. Doug Watt Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    “We thought they would let us in. But Trump sent the military instead of social workers.”

    Can someone tell me what is wrong with these people? You show up en masse at the border making demands, and you want social workers?

    The people in the caravan were fooled by their community organizers.

    Yes Gary, the road to Hell is paved with good intentions. I could write a separate post on advocacy groups that place water in the Sonoran Desert to help people survive the trek on foot. The Border Patrol has asked these groups to allow them to place the water where they know it will be found. They refuse to do so. There is nothing ethical about encouraging people to make that trek.

    More than 2,000 people have died while crossing the border in Southern Arizona, and about 900 of their remains have not been identified, in part because many are skeletons when they are found or are greatly decomposed due to the harsh desert conditions.

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  8. Danny Alexander Member
    Danny Alexander
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    Our neighbors to the north tried this same shtick a number of years back — didn’t exactly work out!:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_on_Strike

     

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  9. Ray Gunner Coolidge
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    Doug Watt:

    “It may seem like a lot of money to you,” Ulloa said. “But it is a small sum compared to everything the United States has stolen from Honduras.”

    The group’s letter criticized American intervention in Central America.

    “We have come to the border of the United States to protest its imperialist theft of Honduran wealth and its malevolent interference in her sovereign affairs!”

    “Now let us in!”   

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  10. Hang On Member
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    You can’t make this stuff up.

    Please fingerprint them and put them in a database so that they will never be allowed in the country.

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  11. cdor Member
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    Doug Watt:

    “It may seem like a lot of money to you,” Ulloa said. “But it is a small sum compared to everything the United States has stolen from Honduras.”

    The group’s letter criticized American intervention in Central America. They gave the U.S. Consulate 72 hours to respond. They said they had not decided what to do if their demands were not met.

    Well isn’t it now obvious to everyone how much these people love the USA? How can we NOT give asylum to such wonderful, selfless future citizens?

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  12. cdor Member
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    Ray Gunner (View Comment):

    “It may seem like a lot of money to you,” Ulloa said. “But it is a small sum compared to everything the United States has stolen from Honduras.”

    The group’s letter criticized American intervention in Central America. They gave the U.S. Consulate 72 hours to respond. They said they had not decided what to do if their demands were not met.

    And feed, educate, and medicate us.

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  13. Gary Robbins Member
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    Hang On (View Comment):

    You can’t make this stuff up.

    Please fingerprint them and put them in a database so that they will never be allowed in the country.

    We should give them copies of “How to Win Friends and Influence People” in Spanish before turning them around.  Sad.

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  14. OkieSailor Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    “We thought they would let us in. But Trump sent the military instead of social workers.”

    Can someone tell me what is wrong with these people? You show up en masse at the border making demands, and you want social workers?

    The people in the caravan were fooled by their community organizers.

    We elected their chief Community Organizer twice, maybe they were just a little behind the times.

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  15. DonG Coolidge
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    I always knew that Monroe Doctrine would came back to haunt us.

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  16. aardo vozz Member
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    I wish we could pay all of our elected and appointed officials, as well as their bureaucrats , $50,000 to go home. —and stay home.

    <sarcasm off>

    <cynicism always on>

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  17. Sweezle Inactive
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    So it’s true for countries too.  You teach people how to treat you. 

     

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  18. John Seymour Member
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    OkieSailor (View Comment):

    Doug Watt: The reparation demands seem somewhat confusing. Money for past intervention by the US, but they would like one more intervention to end the dictatorship of Juan Orlando Hernandez.

    UmHmmm. They should be turned away with nothing but be sure to make this ridiculous request a permanent part of their record should they ever seek entry into the U.S.

    That’s what I was thinking – we can speed up the processing of their asylum requests – asylum claimants are supposed to have clean hands – you don’t get asylum if the reason the new government wants to kill you is that you were the chief torturer of the former government.  They are guilty of extortion.  Claim denied.  Next.

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  19. I Walton Member
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    We should hold them in a UNHCR  camps in Mexico and agree to investigate their claims if they pay for it.  That’d be several man days at least so for say $500-$1000, less than they pay coyotes, we could review their papers and claims.   We already do this with some legal visa applicants.

    As to what we owe Honduras, we paid them quite a few hundred millions for letting us use their Jungle to house the Nicaraguan resistance.  We helped them try to stem the influx of drug king pins, by grabbing Mata Ballesteros and send him to prison in the US.  We had our military build them a road to have a benign US presence  in order to suppress any Nicaraguan or Cuban tendency to put hostiles on the ground.

    And yet the Hondurans had to put up with rude, demanding, hostile Americans like  Senator Dodd and other Marxists, so I have some sympathy.  Still I’d blame it all on Colombian President Uribe for chasing the drug business out of Colombia and into Venezuela, Central America and Mexico.

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  20. Gary Robbins Member
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    John Seymour (View Comment):

    OkieSailor (View Comment):

    Doug Watt: The reparation demands seem somewhat confusing. Money for past intervention by the US, but they would like one more intervention to end the dictatorship of Juan Orlando Hernandez.

    UmHmmm. They should be turned away with nothing but be sure to make this ridiculous request a permanent part of their record should they ever seek entry into the U.S.

    That’s what I was thinking – we can speed up the processing of their asylum requests – asylum claimants are supposed to have clean hands – you don’t get asylum if the reason the new government wants to kill you is that you were the chief torturer of the former government. They are guilty of extortion. Claim denied. Next.

    That would be true of all signatories to the demand, but not all of the people who are requesting asylum.  

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  21. Percival Thatcher
    Percival
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    Somewhere out in Academia, one of my friends is thinking “This is no way to file a grant application.” And one of the others is thinking “What a great way to file a grant application.”

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