The Mystery of Male Armies, Redux

 

A young friend came to visit. He is seven years old and, of course, his mother does not permit him to have toy guns. This is what he made, without assistance, using rubber bands and twigs from the yard. Note the magazines (yup, there’s one on the other side) and the sights on the barrel.

As @franksoto put it, in the title to a recent post, “bask in the crazy” indeed.

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  1. dnewlander Inactive
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    If you really want the kid to be lethal, teach him how to make a slungshot. (No, that is not a typo.)

    Hmmm.

    From Wikipedia:

    Carrying or attempting to use a slungshot is a felony in the states of California,[2] Oklahoma,[3] Massachusetts,[4] and Michigan.[5] It is a gross misdemeanor in the states of Nevada and Washington.[6] In Minnesota, it can be either a misdemeanor or a felony, depending upon the circumstances.[7] As of 2010, in the state of New Hampshire, possession of a slung shot carries a misdemeanor penalty.[8] In March 2016, Florida repealed its longstanding first-degree misdemeanor law forbidding the carrying of a concealed slungshot.[9] Tennessee’s going armed statute lists the slungshot (as “slingshot”) in its list of prohibited weapons.

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  2. Arahant Member
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    dnewlander (View Comment):
    Hmmm.

    She’s in Maine. Not on the list. Besides, you don’t have to have the weight, or can use a small one that once you undo the monkey’s paw knot, all you’re carrying is a rope and a lead ball or steel ball or iron ball. Don’t you always carry a rope with you?

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  3. dnewlander Inactive
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    dnewlander (View Comment):
    Hmmm.

    She’s in Maine. Not on the list. Besides, you don’t have to have the weight, or can use a small one that once you undo the monkey’s paw knot, all you’re carrying is a rope and a lead ball or steel ball or iron ball. Don’t you always carry a rope with you?

    In New Mexico it’s illegal to make a noose with 13 loops, so the rope can be problematic all on its own…

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  4. Nancy Spalding Inactive
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    My grandson (now 3) makes guns out of LEGOs, and at times he and his big sister (5) chase each other around one of those pass throughs screaming cheerfully, him carrying his plastic saw (once I filmed it, they now like watching “the toddler chainsaw massacre”) … BUT, he really *loves* trucks and construction equipment; at 2 he explained to his mom the functions of a backhoe they saw parked by the road as they were walking, and could instantly recognize a robotic jackhammer in a video on facebook; I showed it to him because I couldn’t figure it out, since no one was managing it. they do lots of things together and play with each others toys, but his sister is only minimally interested.

    I find it really striking, since I only had a daughter… it is so wonderful to see him, so completely un-selfconscious!

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  5. CB Toder aka Mama Toad Member
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    I was just weeding out front of the house and someone catcalled me from a passing car.

    I was horrified.

    I have called out praise to workers doing a good job but I think just whistling and shouting something about my rear end kinda unacceptable.

    Yet another way the sexes differ?

    (My husband was vaguely flattered on my behalf…)

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  6. Hank Rhody, Red Hunter Contributor
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    Nancy Spalding (View Comment):
    chase each other around one of those pass throughs screaming cheerfully, him carrying his plastic saw (once I filmed it, they now like watching “the toddler chainsaw massacre”)

    You gotta be careful with that. Just this weekend I saw a five-year-old use a chainsaw to slice open a shark and save someone’s life.

    Course, that was on Sharknado 4.

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  7. GrannyDude Member
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    ctlaw (View Comment):

    GrannyDude: his mother does not permit him to have toy guns.

    Obvious question: What does his father say about that?

    There isn’t one. 

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  8. GrannyDude Member
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    Nancy Spalding (View Comment):

    My grandson (now 3) makes guns out of LEGOs, and at times he and his big sister (5) chase each other around one of those pass throughs screaming cheerfully, him carrying his plastic saw (once I filmed it, they now like watching “the toddler chainsaw massacre”) … BUT, he really *loves* trucks and construction equipment; at 2 he explained to his mom the functions of a backhoe they saw parked by the road as they were walking, and could instantly recognize a robotic jackhammer in a video on facebook; I showed it to him because I couldn’t figure it out, since no one was managing it. they do lots of things together and play with each others toys, but his sister is only minimally interested.

    I find it really striking, since I only had a daughter… it is so wonderful to see him, so completely un-selfconscious!

    My godson, with tremendous confidence, told me his block construction was a “feller buncher.” A term I didn’t learn until I was at least 40… little boys and trucks. It’s a beautiful thing. 

    My youngest daughter had a transient enthusiasm for trucks when she was very small, plus a mild speech impediment. All  digraphs (th, sh, tr)  came out “F.” So it was pretty bad when she saw a big black truck. Worse when she assured me that “dose are de’ best kind.”

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  9. GrannyDude Member
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    GrannyDude (View Comment):

    ctlaw (View Comment):

    GrannyDude: his mother does not permit him to have toy guns.

    Obvious question: What does his father say about that?

    There isn’t one.

    Having said that, my late husband, the state trooper, went along with me on the gun thing. But as other parents and grandparents have so ably and charmingly demonstrated, the natural instincts will out. Lego guns, block guns, twig guns (though none as sophisticated as this one) water pistols, rubber band guns, potato guns… 

    I told my godson (of the “feller buncher” expertise) that I’d get him one of those guns that shoot marshmallows. They look AWESOME.

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  10. GrannyDude Member
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    CB Toder aka Mama Toad (View Comment):

    I was just weeding out front of the house and someone catcalled me from a passing car.

    I was horrified.

    I have called out praise to workers doing a good job but I think just whistling and shouting something about my rear end kinda unacceptable.

    Yet another way the sexes differ?

    (My husband was vaguely flattered on my behalf…)

    Yeah. It’s just rude.  

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  11. Randy Webster Inactive
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    GrannyDude (View Comment):
    My godson, with tremendous confidence, told me his block construction was a “feller buncher.” A term I didn’t learn until I was at least 40… little boys and trucks. It’s a beautiful thing. 

    I never heard of “feller buncher” til just now, and even then I thought “feller” was southern for “fellow.”

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  12. Randy Webster Inactive
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    When I was young, I had a paper route.  We’d ride our bikes to a central location, wait for the papers, roll them up, and spread out to deliver them.  There were probably 20 ten to twelve year olds.  We all had two pound boxes of rubber bands used to hold the rolled up papers.  You can imagine what the place was like when the papers were an hour late.  It was where I learned the hand-held-like-a-gun method of shooting rubber bands, and I have to say, I’m pretty damn accurate.

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  13. Full Size Tabby Member
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    My parents (I was born in 1956) were very anti-gun, and I had no interest whatsoever until our son became interested in them as he was in high school. I grew up (mostly) in suburban southern California, and knew no one who hunted or otherwise had any use for a gun. Our son, during his childhood in suburban southern California also exhibited no interest in weapons (we also did not own a television during his childhood, so he did not have that venue for learning about weapons). But, by the time our son was in high school we lived in western New York state, where hunting was normal, and guns were common. Our son was also at that time becoming interested in joining the military, and learned the value of “peace through superior firepower.”

    I was one of those rare boys who did not fashion a weapon out of anything and everything. But, to me anything and everything was fair game to become a car, with motor noises. 

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  14. ctlaw Coolidge
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    GrannyDude (View Comment):

    ctlaw (View Comment):

    GrannyDude: his mother does not permit him to have toy guns.

    Obvious question: What does his father say about that?

    There isn’t one.

    There’s your problem…

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  15. Quake Voter Inactive
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    Hank Rhody, Red Hunter (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    Qoumidan (View Comment):

    I have no problem with guns, but I didn’t have them around when my older children were young. With no input or encouragement (no discouragement either) the two oldest, both boys, made guns out of everything from their trio blocks and Legos to pencils and sticks. It’s just in their nature, it seems. My daughter did not, even though she followed them.

    Give a little boy a Barbie doll, and he’ll turn it into a weapon.

     

    It’s not that hard. Bend her legs forward at the waist, then turn her horizontal, face down. Hold her by the legs and fire her like a pistol.

    Barbie cannot be a pistol.  She has no front hole.

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  16. Quake Voter Inactive
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    GrannyDude (View Comment):
    little boys and trucks. It’s a beautiful thing.

    Why is passionate (and often wet) truck sound mimicry almost exclusively a boy thing?

    Is it building on something evolutionary, like large animal mimicry?

     

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  17. Arahant Member
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    Quake Voter (View Comment):

    Is it building on something evolutionary, like large animal mimicry?

    That’s a very fine question. A study ought to be done.

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  18. Locke On Member
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    Qoumidan (View Comment):

    I have decided my 9yr old is not ready for real guns after he looked down the barrel of a Nerf gun to see why it wasn’t firing and shot himself in the eye with a dart. It was a good object lesson, I guess.

    As a juniors rifle instructor, I endorse this decision!  I’ve taught kids as young as six, but only when their parents are sure they can stay safe and focused for a couple of hours, and they prove the same.  There are some six year olds who are just fine, and some 12-plus year olds that I don’t want on my firing line.

    (We didn’t have toy guns as kids, we had real ones, when we could be trusted with them.  Of course we went nuts with our cousins’ cap guns when visiting, and anything to be had at friends’ houses.)

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  19. Arahant Member
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    Locke On (View Comment):
    There are some six year olds who are just fine, and some 12-plus year olds that I don’t want on my firing line.

    I remember an incident with a kid who must have been about fifteen or sixteen at the time.

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  20. GrannyDude Member
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    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    GrannyDude (View Comment):
    My godson, with tremendous confidence, told me his block construction was a “feller buncher.” A term I didn’t learn until I was at least 40… little boys and trucks. It’s a beautiful thing.

    I never heard of “feller buncher” til just now, and even then I thought “feller” was southern for “fellow.”

    Exactly! I thought it was an insulting way to refer to people of some Persuasion I’d never heard of (and didn’t want to.) But it’s a kind of vehicle, with a giant sort of snipper that can hack off a bunch of trees in a bunch. Good for clear cutting woods and intimidating through-hikers.

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  21. GrannyDude Member
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    a feller-buncher.

    • #51
  22. GrannyDude Member
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    Also, for no particular reason, my newly married son and his bride…

    • #52
  23. CB Toder aka Mama Toad Member
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    GrannyDude (View Comment):

    Also, for no particular reason, my newly married son and his bride…

    Embiggen please?

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  24. AQ Member
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    My adorable 2 year old granddaughter just worships her older brother.  She doesn’t really like guns, but loves running after him as he shoots at anything that moves.

    Unfortunately, she shouts as she runs:  I shoot The People!!

    My daughter has only 2 weeks to break her of this before she goes to preschool. 

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  25. Percival Thatcher
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    If you really want the kid to be lethal, teach him how to make a slungshot. (No, that is not a typo.)

    Better to throw them that to swing them. Flail-type weapons are overrated. You’re always hitting things you don’t want hit, like yourself.

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  26. Phil Turmel Inactive
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    Quake Voter (View Comment):

    Hank Rhody, Red Hunter (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    Qoumidan (View Comment):

    I have no problem with guns, but I didn’t have them around when my older children were young. With no input or encouragement (no discouragement either) the two oldest, both boys, made guns out of everything from their trio blocks and Legos to pencils and sticks. It’s just in their nature, it seems. My daughter did not, even though she followed them.

    Give a little boy a Barbie doll, and he’ll turn it into a weapon.

     

    It’s not that hard. Bend her legs forward at the waist, then turn her horizontal, face down. Hold her by the legs and fire her like a pistol.

    Barbie cannot be a pistol. She has no front hole.

    Barbie heads are removable.  The neck stump appears to be a suitable barrel.  You can guess how I know….

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  27. Quake Voter Inactive
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    Phil Turmel (View Comment):

    Quake Voter (View Comment):

    Hank Rhody, Red Hunter (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    Qoumidan (View Comment):

    I have no problem with guns, but I didn’t have them around when my older children were young. With no input or encouragement (no discouragement either) the two oldest, both boys, made guns out of everything from their trio blocks and Legos to pencils and sticks. It’s just in their nature, it seems. My daughter did not, even though she followed them.

    Give a little boy a Barbie doll, and he’ll turn it into a weapon.

     

    It’s not that hard. Bend her legs forward at the waist, then turn her horizontal, face down. Hold her by the legs and fire her like a pistol.

    Barbie cannot be a pistol. She has no front hole.

    Barbie heads are removable. The neck stump appears to be a suitable barrel. You can guess how I know….

    Please tell me you haven’t been vacationing in Wind Gap, Missouri Phil…

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  28. Amy Schley Coolidge
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    CB Toder aka Mama Toad (View Comment):

    I was just weeding out front of the house and someone catcalled me from a passing car.

    I was horrified.

    I have called out praise to workers doing a good job but I think just whistling and shouting something about my rear end kinda unacceptable.

    Yet another way the sexes differ?

    (My husband was vaguely flattered on my behalf…)

    Walking home today, I had a homeless guy tell me that his buddy cleaned up real good and hadn’t been laid in like 17 years.  Upon telling him I’d spent the last 16 years married, he replied, “That’s impressive!”

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  29. JoelB Member
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    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    GrannyDude (View Comment):
    My godson, with tremendous confidence, told me his block construction was a “feller buncher.” A term I didn’t learn until I was at least 40… little boys and trucks. It’s a beautiful thing.

    I never heard of “feller buncher” til just now, and even then I thought “feller” was southern for “fellow.”

    A co-worker once fell from a tree and broke his arm. Another co-worker, the office clown, wrote a poem for him and posted it on his door. It was titled “A Feller Who Felled From a Tree”. I wish I had the words. It was a great bunch of puns and was accepted in the good spirit in which it was offered.

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  30. GrannyDude Member
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    CB Toder aka Mama Toad (View Comment):

    GrannyDude (View Comment):

    Also, for no particular reason, my newly married son and his bride…

    Embiggen please?

    I don’t know how…?!

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