Ben Shapiro Wrote It. Thanks, Ben.

 

I’ve been thinking about writing a post on abortion from a purely Orthodox Jewish point of view for a long time. What many Jews alive today and many others outside our faith believe to be the Jewish position on this issue has always been a fallacy. I did a review of the purely Orthodox positions from the highest Orthodox authorities quite some time ago. I also visited the Temple Mount ten years ago and saw the mikvahs that surrounded the entire Mount. The conclusion that Judaism is not only not pro-choice but in all probability the deep background source for the Catholic teaching on this issue was inescapable. For a modern Jew, this is a very inconvenient fact. The vast majority of modern Jews are very pro-choice. To present the original position would create a firestorm of protest from inside Judaism so I’ve been hesitant to write the piece. Now I need not hesitate. Ben Shapiro in his explosive direct style has simply pushed forward and breached the issue.

Yes, Judaism Is Pro-Life

the baseline halacha – with exceptions, of course – is that abortion is forbidden unless the mother’s life is in danger. The clear consensus of the rishonim (medieval authorities) is that abortion is a Biblical prohibition, the only question being about which scriptural prohibition is implicated. This is the position of the greatest rabbis of the 20th century, from Rabbi Moshe Feinstein (who considered abortion murder) to Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Auerbach (who agreed) to Rabbi Joseph B. Soloveitchik (who also agreed, stating in 1975, “to me it is something vulgar, this clamor of the liberals that abortion be permitted”) to Rabbi Ovadiya Yosef (who said that abortion is Biblically prohibited past three months and at least rabbinically prohibited before then).

Now, rabbis do argue on the level of exceptions permitted. Even rabbis considered more “lenient” on abortion agree that it is prohibited ipso facto; they merely consider more exceptions acceptable. But there is not a single Jewish opinion that supports the mainstream pro-choice position on abortion, which states that an abortion is a matter between a woman and her doctor, and should be available for any reason. Zero halakhists have ever backed such an idea. As in, NONE. EVER. Not “virtually none.” NONE.

Ben has confirmed my observations about the real Jewish position on abortion. Abortion is forbidden because it is taking life. That is the fundamental position. The major exception is in the case that the life of the mother is threatened. This exception is literally justified by the argument from self-defense. The mother is defending her own life and thus has the right to even kill the child if that is what is necessary for her survival. It should be immediately evident that modern medicine has made this exception almost totally irrelevant or at least very very rare. One can barely imagine one out of every ten thousand abortions performed today that could possibly claim this exception as justification.

There is only one issue from the Jewish perspective that Ben has not addressed in his article. For the first 40 days of the pregnancy, as the human eye can not even detect an aborted developing embryo, the Rabbi’s simply accepted this period as indeterminant. As life could not be proved to have existed in the first place, there could be no proof that it had been artificially interrupted. Once again with modern medicine and modern science, the period of indeterminacy is far shorter and the confirmation of life far more determinate. Thus this exception would also be much less relevant if applied in the modern world.

Undoubtedly, many Jews and non-Jews will be shocked by this information. However, a close examination of the Temple Mount should remove the surprise element. The mikvahs surrounding the Temple Mount, over 2,000 years old, are constructed following halachic law perfectly. We can only assume that the attitude towards the “laws of family purity” have changed little in the intervening 2,000 years. These laws provide a structure which monitors a woman’s ovulation cycle and thus is a window into exactly when conception takes place. This elaborate structure confirms Judaism’s commitment to prenatal life and the central role it played in the Jewish faith. We can then easily see that Christianity, in specific the Catholic Church, was following a foundation that had already been laid down when it developed its doctrines on this issue.

I am sure many Christians will be pleasantly surprised by this report. On the other hand, many Jews will accuse me and Ben of everything under the sun. They will try to avoid the truth at all cost. I am prepared to take the heat. However, I’m not sure when I would have breached the discussion without Ben sticking his neck out first.

Well done Ben. Thanks.

Mikvahs – Ancient Mikvahs (ritual baths) in Jerusalem

Good Shabbos.

Regards,

Jim

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  1. Yudansha Member
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    It’s funny; I just assumed that Judaism prohibited abortion, all along.  When I read your line about most people believing a fallacy, I was thinking that you were going to argue that it was generally permissible.

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  2. Jim McConnell Member
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    A very enlightening post. Thank you, James.

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  3. dnewlander Inactive
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    Amen!

    Thanks, James. And Ben, because that Wade a masterful piece of rhetoric.

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  4. PHCheese Inactive
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    Thanks for sharing Jim. I am Catholic. I have had discussions with a Jewish friend that besides for a few things Jews and Catholics believe in many of the same ideas. Now what is murder and what isn’t is also shared.

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  5. Saint Augustine Member
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    Talmud:

    The same questioned again the same: At what time does the soul come into the body–at the moment of conception, or at the time the embryo is already formed? And the answer was: When it is already formed. Said Antoninus to him: Is it possible that a piece of flesh shall keep three days or more without being salted, and it shall not become stinking? And therefore it must be said: At conception. Said Rabbi: This teaching I accepted from Antoninus, and a support to him is to be found in [Job, x. 12]: “And thy providence watched over my spirit.”

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  6. Richard Fulmer Inactive
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    James Gawron: Undoubtedly, many Jews and non-Jews will be shocked by this information.

    Meh.  People on the left have developed so many techniques for dealing with inconvenient facts – applying “hate labels” (e.g., racist, sexist, homophobic) so as to place them outside acceptable speech, shouting them down, or just ignoring them – that they will hardly be inconvenienced by one more.

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  7. Saint Augustine Member
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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Talmud:

    The same questioned again the same: At what time does the soul come into the body–at the moment of conception, or at the time the embryo is already formed? And the answer was: When it is already formed. Said Antoninus to him: Is it possible that a piece of flesh shall keep three days or more without being salted, and it shall not become stinking? And therefore it must be said: At conception. Said Rabbi: This teaching I accepted from Antoninus, and a support to him is to be found in [Job, x. 12]: “And thy providence watched over my spirit.”

    Maybe I should mention that I know very little about the Talmud!  There may be serious textual, translational, or interpretive issues here.

    All I can say with a reasonable degree of confidence is that this indicates that there appears to have been an ancient rabbinical tradition of viewing human life as beginning at conception based on the Tanakh.

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  8. CarolJoy Coolidge
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    At the time that Christ was walking the earth, one of the most purchased botanicals was this salvia that allowed for contraception. The big problem with the plant was that it  ws so popular in Mediterranean areas that it was hard to obtain – merchants always ran out of it.

    Now it might be that abortion is prohibited by the orthodox Jewish faith, but even going back two thousand years, contraception was not.

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  9. Aaron Miller Inactive
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    The word of the LORD came to me:

    Before I formed you in the womb I knew you,

    before you were born I dedicated you,

    a prophet to the nations I appointed you.

    Jeremiah

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  10. Saint Augustine Member
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    Aaron Miller (View Comment):

    The word of the LORD came to me:

    Before I formed you in the womb I knew you,

    before you were born I dedicated you,

    a prophet to the nations I appointed you.

    Jeremiah

    And there’s that.  And that Psalm.  # 139, isn’t it?

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  11. Percival Thatcher
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    Pleased, Jim, but not surprised.

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  12. Hypatia Member
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    CarolJoy (View Comment):

    At the time that Christ was walking the earth, one of the most purchased botanicals was this salvia that allowed for contraception. The big problem with the plant was that it ws so popular in Mediterranean areas that it was hard to obtain – merchants always ran out of it.

    Now it might be that abortion is prohibited by the orthodox Jewish faith, but even going back two thousand years, contraception was not.

    I can’t claim any familiarity with any of the Jewish scholarship sources the author cites, but I do know the Old and New Testaments, and I’ve never seen anything prohibiting abortion, unless you count the commandment against killing, but that clearly meant not to gratuitously kill another adult member of the Tribe, since Jehovah and all the OT heroes do a lot of killing. It’s not a topic scripture deals with specifically.

    There’s only one aspect of quotidian life that Jesus discussed at length: marriage, and the fact that divorce was to be permissible only in one circumstance: if the wife committed adultery.  He was so strict about it being an unbreakable covenant that the disciples wondered aloud whether it wouldn’t be better to remain single! And he followed it up with a shout-out to eunuchs!  Seems funny to me that the church caved very early on that, while  getting in such a twist about abortion. 

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  13. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Thank you, Jim. I knew it was prohibited, but your elaboration and Ben’s are very helpful.

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  14. Ontheleftcoast Inactive
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    Hypatia (View Comment):
    I do know the Old and New Testaments, and I’ve never seen anything prohibiting abortion,

    Correct. This is from Fred Rosner, a physician expert in medical ethics in Judaism and on Maimonides’ medical writings:

    An unborn fetus in Jewish law is not considered a person (Heb. nefesh, lit. “soul”) until it has been born. The fetus is regarded as a part of the mother’s body and not a separate being until it begins to egress from the womb during parturition (childbirth). In fact, until forty days after conception, the fertilized egg is considered as “mere fluid.” These facts form the basis for the Jewish legal view on abortion. Biblical, Talmudic, and rabbinic support for these statements will now be presented.

    Intentional abortion is not mentioned directly in the Bible, but a case of accidental abortion is discussed in Exodus 21:22‑23, where Scripture states: “When men fight and one of them pushes a pregnant woman and a miscarriage results, but no other misfortune ensues, the one responsible shall be fined as the woman’s husband may exact from him, the payment to be based on judges’ reckoning. But if other misfortune ensues, the penalty shall be life for life.”

    The famous medieval biblical commentator Solomon ben Isaac, known as Rashi, interprets “no other misfortune” to mean no fatal injury to the woman following her miscarriage. In that case, the attacker pays only financial compensation for having unintentionally caused the miscarriage, no differently than if he had accidentally injured the woman elsewhere on her body. Most other Jewish Bible commentators… agree with Rashi’s interpretation. We can thus conclude that when the mother is otherwise unharmed following trauma to her abdomen during which the fetus is lost, the only rabbinic concern is to have the one responsible pay damages to the woman and her husband for the loss of the fetus. None of the rabbis raise the possibility of involuntary manslaughter being involved because the unborn fetus is not legally a person and, therefore, there is no question of murder involved when a fetus is aborted.

    Based upon this biblical statement. Moses Maimonides asserts as follows: “If one assaults a woman, even unintentionally, and her child is born prematurely, he must pay the value of the child to the husband and the compensation for injury and pain to the woman.” Maimonides continues with statements regarding how these compensations are computed. A similar declaration is found in Joseph Karo’s legal code Shulkhan Aruch. No concern is expressed by either Maimonides or Karo regarding the status of the miscarried fetus. It is part of the mother and belongs jointly to her and her husband, and thus damages must be paid for its premature death. However, the one who was responsible is not culpable for murder, since the unborn fetus is not considered a person.

    [continued]

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  15. Ontheleftcoast Inactive
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    Murder in Jewish law is based upon Exodus 21:12, where it is written: “He that smiteth a man so that he dieth shall surely be put to death.” The word “man” is interpreted by the sages to mean a man but not a fetus. Thus, the destruction of an unborn fetus is not considered murder.

    Another pertinent scriptural passage is Leviticus 24:17, where it states: “And he that smiteth any person mortally shall surely be put to death.” However, an unborn fetus is not considered a person or nefesh and, therefore, its destruction does not incur the death penalty.

    Turning to talmudic sources, the Mishnah asserts the following: “If a woman is having difficulty in giving birth [and her life is in danger], one cuts up the fetus within her womb and extracts it limb by limb, because her life takes precedence over that of the fetus. But if the greater part was already born, one may not touch it, for one may not set aside one person’s life for that of another.”

    Rabbi Yom Tov Lippman Heller, known as Tosafot Yom Tov, in his commentary on this passage in the Mishnah, explains that the fetus is not considered a nefesh until it has egressed into the air of the world and, therefore, one is permitted to destroy it to save the mother’s life. Similar reasoning is found in Rashi’s commentary on the talmudic discussion of this mishnaic passage, where Rashi states that as long as the child has not come out into the world, it is not called a living being, i.e., nefesh. Once the head of the child has come out, the child may not be harmed because it is considered as fully born, and one life may not be taken to save another.

    Despite all this, the halacha on abortion is, I think, more or less as Ben Shapiro stated.

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  16. Nanda Pajama-Tantrum Member
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    Many thanks, Jim!

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  17. James Gawron Inactive
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    Ontheleftcoast (View Comment):

    Murder in Jewish law is based upon Exodus 21:12, where it is written: “He that smiteth a man so that he dieth shall surely be put to death.” The word “man” is interpreted by the sages to mean a man but not a fetus. Thus, the destruction of an unborn fetus is not considered murder.

    Another pertinent scriptural passage is Leviticus 24:17, where it states: “And he that smiteth any person mortally shall surely be put to death.” However, an unborn fetus is not considered a person or nefesh and, therefore, its destruction does not incur the death penalty.

    Turning to talmudic sources, the Mishnah asserts the following: “If a woman is having difficulty in giving birth [and her life is in danger], one cuts up the fetus within her womb and extracts it limb by limb, because her life takes precedence over that of the fetus. But if the greater part was already born, one may not touch it, for one may not set aside one person’s life for that of another.”

    Rabbi Yom Tov Lippman Heller, known as Tosafot Yom Tov, in his commentary on this passage in the Mishnah, explains that the fetus is not considered a nefesh until it has egressed into the air of the world and, therefore, one is permitted to destroy it to save the mother’s life. Similar reasoning is found in Rashi’s commentary on the talmudic discussion of this mishnaic passage, where Rashi states that as long as the child has not come out into the world, it is not called a living being, i.e., nefesh. Once the head of the child has come out, the child may not be harmed because it is considered as fully born, and one life may not be taken to save another.

    Despite all this, the halacha on abortion is, I think, more or less as Ben Shapiro stated.

    OnLC,

    Jewish Law is not at all like Roman Law. Often the underlying principle is discernable only from the ritual procedure itself. The fact that Jewish Law doesn’t hold an accidental abortion liable is irrelevant to the question of whether Jewish Law holds the fetus to be a human life. The Kohan is a Jewish Priest. If the Kohen comes in contact with the abortion before 40 days after conception than the Kohan does not become ritually impure. Contact with any human corpse makes the Kohen ritually impure. The watery fluid is mentioned because at 40 days the human eye can only see watery fluid and not the developing embryo. Leeuwenhoek invented the microscope in 1677. We are discussing Rabbinic rulings from 2,000 years previous. What is really of interest is what the ruling is if the Kohen comes in contact with the embryo after the 40 days (obviously the embryo can be seen). The Kohen is ritually impure and must undergo full ritual purification and be restrained from performing his duties in the Temple. I would present this as far more conclusive proof that Jewish Law holds the developing fetus to be a human life rather than punishments imposed or not imposed for accidental external acts.

    Again the 40 days is about indeterminacy. There is no way to see a developing embryo at that stage. Once it becomes a determined fact that an embryo exists then this is confirmation that a human life existed and has resulted in a human death. Once this is established there really is only one argument that is employed and that is the argument of self-defense. A woman has the right to defend her own life even to point of ending the pregnancy. However, this event would only constitute a pretext to end the pregnancy very very rarely with modern medicine.

    Neither of the two exceptions, indeterminacy or self-defense, would justify anything like the “abortion-right” of the current law. In fact, with these two exceptions under Jewish Law 99.999…% of the modern abortions that take place would not. With all due respect to Dr. Rosner, I doubt he cares much about original Jewish Law on this subject. He is looking for any loophole that will give him the result he knows will be very very popular. This is exactly what I meant when I said they would do anything to avoid the inconvenient truth.

    Regards,

    Jim

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  18. Hypatia Member
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    Ontheleftcoast (View Comment):

    Murder in Jewish law is based upon Exodus 21:12, where it is written: “He that smiteth a man so that he dieth shall surely be put to death.” The word “man” is interpreted by the sages to mean a man but not a fetus. Thus, the destruction of an unborn fetus is not considered murder.

    Another pertinent scriptural passage is Leviticus 24:17, where it states: “And he that smiteth any person mortally shall surely be put to death.” However, an unborn fetus is not considered a person or nefesh and, therefore, its destruction does not incur the death penalty.

    Turning to talmudic sources, the Mishnah asserts the following: “If a woman is having difficulty in giving birth [and her life is in danger], one cuts up the fetus within her womb and extracts it limb by limb, because her life takes precedence over that of the fetus. But if the greater part was already born, one may not touch it, for one may not set aside one person’s life for that of another.”

    Rabbi Yom Tov Lippman Heller, known as Tosafot Yom Tov, in his commentary on this passage in the Mishnah, explains that the fetus is not considered a nefesh until it has egressed into the air of the world and, therefore, one is permitted to destroy it to save the mother’s life. Similar reasoning is found in Rashi’s commentary on the talmudic discussion of this mishnaic passage, where Rashi states that as long as the child has not come out into the world, it is not called a living being, i.e., nefesh. Once the head of the child has come out, the child may not be harmed because it is considered as fully born, and one life may not be taken to save another.

    Despite all this, the halacha on abortion is, I think, more or less as Ben Shapiro stated.

    @ontheleftcoast,  I doubt anybody else is still reading.  But I don’t think  anybody in the ancient world worried bout abortion.  If contraception had failed, and/or an unwanted baby was born, they just chucked it outside the city walls on the garbage dump to die.  Mary Beard records that the Romans did this.  And Ezekiel 16:4-6 suggests the Hebrews did too, at least with unwanted female infants.  Here Yahweh compares Jerusalem to a female infant cast out to die, unwashed, placenta still attached, “polluted in thine own blood”–the lowest of the low, which He magnanimously saved from death. The writer  wouldn’t have used that image if it weren’t familiar to his audience. 

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  19. Saint Augustine Member
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    Hypatia (View Comment):

    Ontheleftcoast (View Comment):

    Murder in Jewish law is based upon Exodus 21:12, where it is written: “He that smiteth a man so that he dieth shall surely be put to death.” The word “man” is interpreted by the sages to mean a man but not a fetus. Thus, the destruction of an unborn fetus is not considered murder.

    Another pertinent scriptural passage is Leviticus 24:17, where it states: “And he that smiteth any person mortally shall surely be put to death.” However, an unborn fetus is not considered a person or nefesh and, therefore, its destruction does not incur the death penalty.

    Turning to talmudic sources, the Mishnah asserts the following: “If a woman is having difficulty in giving birth [and her life is in danger], one cuts up the fetus within her womb and extracts it limb by limb, because her life takes precedence over that of the fetus. But if the greater part was already born, one may not touch it, for one may not set aside one person’s life for that of another.”

    Rabbi Yom Tov Lippman Heller, known as Tosafot Yom Tov, in his commentary on this passage in the Mishnah, explains that the fetus is not considered a nefesh until it has egressed into the air of the world and, therefore, one is permitted to destroy it to save the mother’s life. Similar reasoning is found in Rashi’s commentary on the talmudic discussion of this mishnaic passage, where Rashi states that as long as the child has not come out into the world, it is not called a living being, i.e., nefesh. Once the head of the child has come out, the child may not be harmed because it is considered as fully born, and one life may not be taken to save another.

    Despite all this, the halacha on abortion is, I think, more or less as Ben Shapiro stated.

    @ontheleftcoast, I doubt anybody else is still reading. But I don’t think anybody in the ancient world worried bout abortion. If contraception had failed, and/or an unwanted baby was born, they just chucked it outside the city walls on the garbage dump to die. Mary Beard records that the Romans did this. And Ezekiel 16:4-6 suggests the Hebrews did too, at least with unwanted female infants. Here Yahweh compares Jerusalem to a female infant cast out to die, unwashed, placenta still attached, “polluted in thine own blood”–the lowest of the low, which He magnanimously saved from death. The writer wouldn’t have used that image if it weren’t familiar to his audience.

    That’s a sign that some few did care, isn’t it?

    There are also the words of the Hippocratic Oath.

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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):
    There are also the words of the Hippocratic Oath.

    In which one specifically swears not to use abortfacient pessaries and which doesn’t explicitly cover oral drugs or surgical means. Our earliest example of the oath is from the late third century CE.

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  21. Saint Augustine Member
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    Ontheleftcoast (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):
    There are also the words of the Hippocratic Oath.

    In which one specifically swears not to use abortfacient pessaries and which doesn’t explicitly cover oral drugs or surgical means. Our earliest example of the oath is from the late third century CE.

    Interesting response!

    I imagine those other methods were known to Hippocrates.  That does appear to count against the Hippocratic Oath as an anti-abortion document.

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  22. Ontheleftcoast Inactive
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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Ontheleftcoast (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):
    There are also the words of the Hippocratic Oath.

    In which one specifically swears not to use abortfacient pessaries and which doesn’t explicitly cover oral drugs or surgical means. Our earliest example of the oath is from the late third century CE.

    Interesting response!

    I imagine those other methods were known to Hippocrates.

    They were.

    That does appear to count against the Hippocratic Oath as an anti-abortion document.

    Maybe.

    Wikipedia:

    The Oath’s prohibition of abortion is also not found in contemporary medical texts. The Hippocratic text On the Nature of the Child contains a description of an abortion, without any implication that it was morally wrong, and descriptions of abortifacient medications are numerous in the ancient medical literature. While many Christian versions of the Hippocratic Oath, particularly from the middle-ages, explicitly prohibited abortion, the prohibition is often omitted from many oaths taken in US medical schools today, though it remains controversial. Scribonius Largus was adamant in 43 AD (the earliest surviving reference to the oath) that it preclude abortion.

    As with Scribonius Largus, there seemed to be no question to Soranus that the Hippocratic Oath prohibits abortion, although apparently not all doctors adhered to it strictly in his time. According to Soranus’ 1st or 2nd century AD work Gynaecology, one party of medical practitioners banished all abortives as required by the Hippocratic Oath; the other party—to which he belonged—was willing to prescribe abortions, but only for the sake of the mother’s health.

    Not to mention the little detail of swearing by pagan deities, which if taken seriously is a problem for Christian, Jewish and Muslim physicians. Non-idolatrous versions of the oath were written and used.

    I like that “one party of medical practitioners… the other party…” bit. Of course physicians would never use ethical pretexts to eliminate competing practitioners, would they?

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