Why Do We Cry When Celebrities Die Young?

 

Until his suicide, I never heard of Anthony Bourdain. Since I’m male and have no interest in purses, it’s more understandable that I never heard of Kate Spade, who also took her own life. I am surprised at the outpouring of grief by many including conservative writers, and not just youngish ones. Rob Long in a recent podcast said he was affected by Bourdain’s end, saying Bourdain lived the life he dreamed of living.

Bourdain was a stranger, or near stranger to all of them, as was Spade. In Spade’s case, I’m not even sure she was on television all that much, it’s just that many women had bought her high-end purses, or had been gifted one at a young age.

I was old enough when JFK got assassinated to remember it, but not old enough to know its real significance (I was 3 months shy of 7 years old). But that event was in the shadows as I grew up as he became a secular saint. I’ve read how older people at the time acted — the tears, the crying.

My personality is such that I don’t get too worked up over people I don’t know when bad things happen to them. Frankly, I felt that way about Martin Luther King Jr., and Robert F. Kennedy. In MLK’s case, I may not have been aware of who he was, and most white children probably didn’t until he became martyred. RFK was living in the shadow of his brother, so you couldn’t escape his presence.

I’m not immune as I originally thought, however, to strangers who have bad things happen to them. I was a daily listener of Rush Limbaugh as he went deaf. I was affected by that and relieved when he found a way to overcome that disability.

We can’t get worked up over every person’s misfortune, whether it’s starvation in Africa or the too-frequent teen suicides of every person we don’t know. We’d all be emotional wrecks if we did.

So why do we care so much for some complete strangers? They’re actually exceptions to the rule of not getting worked up about people we don’t know.

It’s irrational to me.

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  1. TBA Coolidge
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    I well remember seventh grade. A coach died in a driving-off-a-windy-road accident that probably involved alcohol. The hysteria was palpable. I had lost a Grandmother and I didn’t much know the coach. The mourning was out-sized and I sort of got it even then. This was just that huge to…children. People innocent of death so far. 

    Losing a real person puts celebrities into perspective. I love me some art, but not like I love my family. 

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  2. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Billy Joel knew.

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  3. philo Member
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    Based on the title, I was sure this was going to be about Matt “Guitar” Murphy.  Gone at 88, far too young on June 15:

     

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  4. CarolJoy Coolidge
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    Travis McKee (View Comment):

    If they had died in accidents, of health reasons, or even acts of violence, I think few would have cared. However, because they seemingly had everything folks think would make them happy, their suicides wounded people in a profound way. They were, as Rob Long said, seemingly living lives we wish we had. But there was a hole so profound that they couldn’t tolerate it anymore.

    Now folks are in panic-stricken grief. Our lives are crappy in comparison! We’re anxious about money and hate the careers we take for that pittance, so what hope is there for us?

    The less relatable aspect to it is that people are sharing “life lessons” from people who just took their own lives. I want to take lessons from happy people! That part just doesn’t compute.

    Regarding Anthony Bourdain: Those of us who are followers on twitter of various activities like sex trafficking and HRC’s supposed involvement in such are more than simply reacting to the “suicide” of a celebrity.

    He had been tweeting he had important information that would bring her down. He made that tweet one month to the day of his death.

    There are also rumors afoot that he had been offered oodles of money to be  one of the producers on a new network that would be devoted to investigative journalism. If you don’t understand what a world renown chef has to do with journalism, you haven’t seen some of his more interesting “Travel Channel” food episodes, especially the one where he and his film crew filmed in Beirut.

    Not afraid of looking like a sissy, the film footage of the stay in Beirut allowed him to be shown cowering under the daily assault of Israeli missiles while George W and others in that administration were caring less that Beirut is a tourist destination for many Europeans and Americans.

    In the end, the US Navy sent a war ship in and Americans were able to get out. At that point, Bourdain returned to covering the food. All that they had for the most part was mess hall mac and cheese, but Bourdain proclaimed it to be the best comfort food he had ever eaten. He also proclaimed the various officers and Naval shipsmen to be extraordinarily gifted at comforting the many freaked out people, including small kids, who had been traumatized by their experience in Beirut.

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  5. Cato Rand Inactive
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    I don’t know that I can completely explain it, but some of these people we feel like we know.  I’ve never met Rob Long, but if he killed himself it would affect me.  He’s been a part of my life – even if virtually – for a long time.  Same was true of Bourdain in my case.  He was a real personality.  Watch one of his shows.  You’ll see what I mean.  In both cases, they do so much unscripted media that if you’re a fan, you get to know them in a way.  Like I said, that’s not a complete explanation but it’s part of it.

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  6. Amy Schley Coolidge
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    I’m sad when people who produce things I love die (relatively) young (e.g. Robin Williams, Alan Rickman, Terry Pratchett, Carrie Fischer) because it means I won’t get to enjoy more output from them.

    The celebrity grief that confuses me is when the really old people die. John Glenn dying at 90 or Zsa Zsa Gabor dying at 100 isn’t surprising. It isn’t tragic. It isn’t denying the world more of the things they could provide. It’s the kind of thing that happens to people that age. I don’t begrudge the families their grief, but the crocodile tears on social media for people so currently irrelevant that the most common response is “I didn’t realize they were still alive” are just baffling to me.

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  7. Suspira Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Randy Weivoda (View Comment):

    I’ve never mourned a celebrity death but I did feel really bad hearing about Charles Krauthammer’s impending death. When the race car driver Dale Earnhardt died in a crash my brother reacted like he’d lost one of his best friends.

    I’m trying to think of a celebrity’s death that I mourned. I imagine there have been some, but so far I’m drawing a blank. Until I come up with a few, it’s hard for me to take a stab at the OP question.

    I’ve been sad or regretful at the odd celebrity death, especially of a not-old person, but I can’t recall actually crying. I really don’t understand the piling up of flowers and teddy bears and the like, or the spontaneous vigils, such as when John Lennon died.

    I wonder who is more emotionally healthy, me or the folks who respond like that.

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  8. JustmeinAZ Member
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    Suspira (View Comment):
    I really don’t understand the piling up of flowers and teddy bears and the like, or the spontaneous vigils

    I don’t understand vigils either. They are just wallowing in their real (or pretend) grief in public. I prefer to wallow in private.

     

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  9. Cato Rand Inactive
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    There’s also something about suicide.  I mean, people die but there’s something particularly jarring about them killing themselves.  You take notice of it, even if you didn’t notice them much in life.

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  10. Steve C. Member
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    Suspira (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Randy Weivoda (View Comment):

    I’ve never mourned a celebrity death but I did feel really bad hearing about Charles Krauthammer’s impending death. When the race car driver Dale Earnhardt died in a crash my brother reacted like he’d lost one of his best friends.

    I’m trying to think of a celebrity’s death that I mourned. I imagine there have been some, but so far I’m drawing a blank. Until I come up with a few, it’s hard for me to take a stab at the OP question.

    I’ve been sad or regretful at the odd celebrity death, especially of a not-old person, but I can’t recall actually crying. I really don’t understand the piling up of flowers and teddy bears and the like, or the spontaneous vigils, such as when John Lennon died.

    I wonder who is more emotionally healthy, me or the folks who respond like that.

    Princess Diana!

    Need I say more. An entire nation, a nation that stoically endured the tragedy of the Somme*, prostrated by the death of one person.

    * 7/1/16 The British Army, in one day, 57,000 casualties including 19,000 killed.

     

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  11. RushBabe49 Thatcher
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    I have to admit, I was sad when Isaac Asimov died.  Now, there will never be a sequel to “Foundation and Earth”.

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  12. BastiatJunior Member
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    I was sad when Benny Hill died.

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  13. Mike H Inactive
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    Some of us did feel like we knew him, because he gave us hours of entertainment through his television programs, and seemed like a genuine good person.

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  14. Cato Rand Inactive
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    Amy Schley (View Comment):

    I’m sad when people who produce things I love die (relatively) young (e.g. Robin Williams, Alan Rickman, Terry Pratchett, Carrie Fischer) because it means I won’t get to enjoy more output from them.

    The celebrity grief that confuses me is when the really old people die. John Glenn dying at 90 or Zsa Zsa Gabor dying at 100 isn’t surprising. It isn’t tragic. It isn’t denying the world more of the things they could provide. It’s the kind of thing that happens to people that age. I don’t begrudge the families their grief, but the crocodile tears on social media for people so currently irrelevant that the most common response is “I didn’t realize they were still alive” are just baffling to me.

    I cried like a baby through Ronald Reagan’s funeral.  He was old.  He was sick.  He’d been “off the stage” for quite a while.  It was his time.  But they weren’t crocodile tears.  Sometimes we really feel the loss, even of someone we never actually knew. 

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  15. Randy Webster Inactive
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    I was strangely upset when Andrew Breitbart died.

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  16. Suspira Member
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    JudithannCampbell (View Comment):
    It matters that both Anthony Bourdain and Kate Spade committed suicide.

    I have not seen any comment on the fact that these well-known personages not only died close together in time, but by the same means (hanging). Is this a coincidence, or was Bourdain inspired by Spade?

    One of the horrific aspects of an already horrific act is that suicide is contagious. Perhaps I’ve missed it, but I haven’t seen this addressed in the current breast-beating on suicide.

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  17. TBA Coolidge
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    Suspira (View Comment):

    suicide is contagious. 

    It is contagious, isn’t it. As with school shootings the idea is suddenly everywhere and people with low resistance are going to catch it. 

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  18. Hoyacon Member
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    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    I was strangely upset when Andrew Breitbart died.

    Me also.  But at least for partially selfish reasons–he was a weapon on “our side,” and we lost him.

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  19. Randy Webster Inactive
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    Suspira (View Comment):
    suicide is contagious

    And painless.

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  20. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    Suspira (View Comment):
    suicide is contagious

    And painless.

    It causes quite a few alterations, too.

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