National Review Online’s Editorial on Ireland’s Abortion Referendum

 

Normally I do not welcome outside interference in any country’s internal political matters. But in the age of Soros, interfering NGOs, Hollywood celebrities and entertainment figures, sell-out politicians who pretended to be pro-life a few years ago and are now pro choice, and with a totally pro-abortion media running the news stories in Ireland — I am having to be more open to outside help.

National Review Online posted an editorial which I assume Michael Brendan Dougherty and some local Irish conservatives (that’ll be a short list) had some input. It was a great read and a testimony to NRO’s commitment to fighting abortion. Over the last few years I have been fiercely critical of NRO, not just on Trump but on many other conservative topics. Today that criticism halts and I salute them. I want to thank the editors for their piece.

NRO’s contribution is a welcome posting. Ireland needs all the help we can get — both secular and religious. Pray for my country. Have a read of the piece too. I will be writing my own again soon on abortion. Say a prayer for my country too. Please.

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  1. Percival Thatcher
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    It’s not interference to have an opinion. It’s not interference to express one either. People on all sides of just about every election have been doing that.

    I am praying for Ireland, Paddy.

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  2. The Reticulator Member
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    Clickable:

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/04/ireland-abortion-referendum-eighth-amendment-choose-life/

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  3. dnewlander Inactive
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    Dia duit, Paddy, agus Dia beann Éire.

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  4. Curt North Inactive
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    Agree on NRO, I’ve long ago taken them off my bookmarks, rarely go there anymore.  But anyone who is willing to fight for life and stand against the abortion mills, God Bless You!  

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  5. Nanda Panjandrum Member
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    Still here, Paddy, and still praying…So glad to see NRO stepping up!

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  6. Hartmann von Aue Member
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    Percival (View Comment):

    It’s not interference to have an opinion. It’s not interference to express one either. People on all sides of just about every election have been doing that.

    I am praying for Ireland, Paddy.

    Same here. Actually, there are several of us at the Gebetshaus Augsburg praying for Ireland. 

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  7. Ralphie Inactive
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    dnewlander (View Comment):

    Dia duit, Paddy, agus Dia beann Éire.

    Not a clue what you said, but it must be good.

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  8. Paddy S Member
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    Ralphie (View Comment):

    dnewlander (View Comment):

    Dia duit, Paddy, agus Dia beann Éire.

    Not a clue what you said, but it must be good.

    It means God be with you Paddy and God be with Ireland 

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  9. Ralphie Inactive
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    Paddy S (View Comment):

    Ralphie (View Comment):

    dnewlander (View Comment):

    Dia duit, Paddy, agus Dia beann Éire.

    Not a clue what you said, but it must be good.

    It means God be with you Paddy and God be with Ireland

    Thank you.

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  10. Arizona Patriot Member
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    Paddy, maybe you’ll want to address this in your later post, but my question is the extent of the breakdown of traditional Irish Catholicism.  This breakdown of traditional Christianity is common in all of Europe, plus America, Canada, and Australia, regardless of whether the tradition of the past couple of centuries is Catholic or Protestant.

    My impression is that the shift is happening unusually rapidly in Ireland — that is, that traditional faith and morality held on longer in Ireland than in most other Western (formerly Christian) countries, and that the pendulum is now swinging with greater speed than we saw elsewhere.  Does this seem accurate to you, and if so, have you identified any specific social or institutional changes that caused this change?

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  11. Nanda Panjandrum Member
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    Arizona Patriot (View Comment):

    Paddy, maybe you’ll want to address this in your later post, but my question is the extent of the breakdown of traditional Irish Catholicism. This breakdown of traditional Christianity is common in all of Europe, plus America, Canada, and Australia, regardless of whether the tradition of the past couple of centuries is Catholic or Protestant.

    My impression is that the shift is happening unusually rapidly in Ireland — that is, that traditional faith and morality held on longer in Ireland than in most other Western (formerly Christian) countries, and that the pendulum is now swinging with greater speed than we saw elsewhere. Does this seem accurate to you, and if so, have you identified any specific social or institutional changes that caused this change?

    Possibly, AP, the economic emergence of the “Celtic Tiger”; these days, prosperity seems to accelerate secularization…@paddysiochain, how close am I?

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  12. Paddy S Member
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    Not far off I’m doing a revision post on it now

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  13. Arizona Patriot Member
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    Nanda Panjandrum (View Comment):

    Arizona Patriot (View Comment):

    Paddy, maybe you’ll want to address this in your later post, but my question is the extent of the breakdown of traditional Irish Catholicism. This breakdown of traditional Christianity is common in all of Europe, plus America, Canada, and Australia, regardless of whether the tradition of the past couple of centuries is Catholic or Protestant.

    My impression is that the shift is happening unusually rapidly in Ireland — that is, that traditional faith and morality held on longer in Ireland than in most other Western (formerly Christian) countries, and that the pendulum is now swinging with greater speed than we saw elsewhere. Does this seem accurate to you, and if so, have you identified any specific social or institutional changes that caused this change?

    Possibly, AP, the economic emergence of the “Celtic Tiger”; these days, prosperity seems to accelerate secularization…@paddysiochain, how close am I?

    I’m skeptical about the idea that prosperity is a principal explanation.  The US is generally the most prosperous of the major Western nations, but is also the most religious.

    I suspect that the prosperity and secularization have a common, third cause, probably relating to Irish society becoming more open to the rest of Europe.  This would bring the advantages of freer trade (thus the prosperity), with the disadvantage of erosion of traditional morality (if you like the traditional morality, as I do).

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  14. Nanda Panjandrum Member
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    Arizona Patriot (View Comment):

    Nanda Panjandrum (View Comment):

    Arizona Patriot (View Comment):

    Paddy, maybe you’ll want to address this in your later post, but my question is the extent of the breakdown of traditional Irish Catholicism. This breakdown of traditional Christianity is common in all of Europe, plus America, Canada, and Australia, regardless of whether the tradition of the past couple of centuries is Catholic or Protestant.

    My impression is that the shift is happening unusually rapidly in Ireland — that is, that traditional faith and morality held on longer in Ireland than in most other Western (formerly Christian) countries, and that the pendulum is now swinging with greater speed than we saw elsewhere. Does this seem accurate to you, and if so, have you identified any specific social or institutional changes that caused this change?

    Possibly, AP, the economic emergence of the “Celtic Tiger”; these days, prosperity seems to accelerate secularization…@paddysiochain, how close am I?

    I’m skeptical about the idea that prosperity is a principal explanation. The US is generally the most prosperous of the major Western nations, but is also the most religious.

    I suspect that the prosperity and secularization have a common, third cause, probably relating to Irish society becoming more open to the rest of Europe. This would bring the advantages of freer trade (thus the prosperity), with the disadvantage of erosion of traditional morality (if you like the traditional morality, as I do).

    Not saying prosperity is a principal reason, AP, but that it tends to lead folks to put faith in their own abilities, etc., while discounting the ‘intangibles’… 

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