Forget Trump, Congress Is the Problem

 

We on Ricochet may be divided on Donald Trump, but there should be one thing that unites us — a white-hot hatred of our despicable and anti-conservative (or just utterly spineless) Congress.

Leaving aside the budget that gives the Democrats everything, and only gives us money to fund the military, despite controlling Congress, there have been repeated failures to enact conservative legislation. It’s not Trump standing in the way, it’s Congress breaking promises repeatedly. No repeal of Obamacare, despite running on that issue and having passed a repeal bill under Obama that died in the Senate. Numerous conservative nominees stalled in committee or waiting for approval.

Where is the conservative agenda? Do people think Trump is not going to sign bills that carry out conservative policies? We have a rare opportunity to enact an agenda, which will probably be ending soon. Even if Trump is a horrible human being, he will sign these bills — just give him the wall and some immigration enforcement, which are conservative goals last time I checked.

If this is what we get for voting Republican and donating time or money, why bother? This was a Pelosi-Schumer budget, plus the military. Why can’t we pass a budget just with Republican votes? Start lean, and add just enough pork to get it to pass. Maybe try following regular order like you promised? Then again, maybe the Republican Party is no different from the Democrats except for piously invoking Reagan and preaching about civility while robbing us blind. It’s almost like the Scoop Jackson/Harry Truman Democrats are now running the GOP.

If you think that Trump being kicked out of the Solar System would solve this, ask what that would change about this budget from hell, delivered by Congress? If we build an android that exactly duplicated Reagan as of 1980, how would he handle this Congress differently? (Would he prefer Tip O’Neill to Paul Ryan?)

So, Ricochet: can we stand united in denouncing this abomination of a budget? It’s not like we don’t already know exactly what arguments each person would use regarding Trump, without actually persuading a single person. Can we demand that Congress step up and start controlling spending? “Either work with Trump or outflank him on the right, but act instead of just virtue signal. Don’t bend over and act like a masochist being whipped by Schumer and Pelosi — you have the majority. Use it. If you don’t, the Democrats certainly will.”

If we shift from the tired debate on Trump, which by now is a vaguely horse-shaped smear on the ground, we might be able to target the sellout Republicans who were behind this Betrayal Budget. Get a Congress that is consistently conservative and the GOP will stand for more than just Trump.

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  1. Derek Simmons Member
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    Miffed White Male (View Comment):
    Signing the omnibus was effectively the end of the Trump Presidency.

     

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  2. TempTime Member
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    Blondie (View Comment):

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    My congressman voted against it, as I was pretty sure he would. Unfortunately, both my senators voted for it. I think that luckily, Marsha Blackburn will replace Bob Corker, but then, I’m a misogynist.

    My congressman voted against it, too. He felt his no vote was important he immediately sent out an email about it. Too bad the dems in my state are trying to get his district redrawn. Wonder why? I really don’t want to go back to being in the district with Chapel Hell.

    It is disappointing that Trump didn’t veto this. I can’t say it any better than Ole Summers.

    Thanks for the link @blondie.  I had not seen @olesummers post.
     

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  3. TempTime Member
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    cdor (View Comment):

    Derek Simmons (View Comment):

    OmegaPaladin: It’s not Trump standing in the way, it’s Congress breaking promises repeatedly.

    Oh please. The problem is Trump not standing in the way! What on earth do you think the Constitutional power of veto is? It is designed for the purpose of “standing in the way” of Congress. Period.

    The above paragraph, yes, I totally agree.

    Trump threw in the towel–a white one at the end of his very small stick. Fitting for a man who speaks loudly. Maybe after Trump does his “Nixon Exit” when Speaker Pelosi files “Articles” then President Pence will have a couple of years to start the “legacy” clean-u

    p.

    The last paragraph above is nothing more than Never Trump vindictive…sad that you had to go there.

    Had to quote, @cdor … system limits the Likes I can give otherwise I would give it one hundred likes.  The last paragraph is bit too #tadtroll.

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  4. Rodin Member
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    Derek Simmons (View Comment):

    OmegaPaladin: It’s not Trump standing in the way, it’s Congress breaking promises repeatedly.

    Oh please. The problem is Trump not standing in the way! What on earth do you think the Constitutional power of veto is? It is designed for the purpose of “standing in the way” of Congress. Period.

    Trump threw in the towel–a white one at the end of his very small stick. Fitting for a man who speaks loudly. Maybe after Trump does his “Nixon Exit” when Speaker Pelosi files “Articles” then President Pence will have a couple of years to start the “legacy” clean-up.

    In fairness the bill (as every omnibus bill is) was engineered to be veto-proof. That’s on Ryan and McConnell. If this happened in year 1 of Trump’s second term after substantial rebuilding of the military had been accomplished a veto would clearly have happened. But a veto under these circumstances had two bad things in it: (1) the Dems forced a shutdown over DACA earlier and a shutdown precipitated by Trump would have lost his high ground on DACA,  and (2) the Dems would have protracted the shutdown to deny military spending increases until they got what they wanted. There is no question this was a win for Pelosi/Schumer, but it could have been bigger. Trump did his best to mitigate the win with jawboning about no DACA solution in the bill.

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  5. I Walton Member
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    Trump didn’t lead from the start a veto was too late. You have to play the game to win  and you have to know what game your playing. He still doesn’t.

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  6. Larry3435 Inactive
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    cdor (View Comment):

    Larry3435 (View Comment):

    We have a one vote majority in the Senate, and that does not enable us to do whatever the hell we want on purely partisan lines. I wasn’t there for the sausage-making, but I believe our guys got the best that they could get. Pulling a stunt like a government shutdown would only increase the chances of losing Congress in November, and that would be the end of any Trump agenda. The end. No immigration reform. No more good judges. No more nothing.

    So no, I am not united. And be careful what you wish for.

    Although I agree with this statement @larry3435, I still cannot express the depth of my disappointment that there is essentially no money for the wall while all of the leftist agenda is funded 110%…and it is all done with deficit spending. Unless Trump calls the wall a national security necessity (as it is) and funds it from increased defense budget money, this budget is terrible and the optics make Trump look impotent. It does seem that the Republican congressmen considered that aspect a bonus.

    I wouldn’t really say there is “no money” for the wall.  There is $1.6 billion, which is probably everything that could be spent this year anyway.  I think we all recognize that the basic deal Trump is looking to get is amnesty for the DACA “kids” in exchange for fully funding the wall.  I think he can probably still get that, as long as the GOP holds the Congress in November.  This $1.6 billion is kind of a freebie for us.  I can’t be too disappointed about that.

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  7. Miffed White Male Member
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    Larry3435 (View Comment):
    I think we all recognize that the basic deal Trump is looking to get is amnesty for the DACA “kids” in exchange for fully funding the wall. I think he can probably still get that, as long as the GOP holds the Congress in November.

    So…No.

     

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  8. OccupantCDN Coolidge
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    This underscores 2 points to me.

    Long term – A line item veto for the president would be fantastic – I understand many governors have this option to them. This gives congress an out – look at all the stupid spending the president approved! … The way they love to shift powers – and blame from their own offices you’d think this would be a natural reform that they’d support.

    Secondly in the short term, this is why the mid-term elections are vital. Trump is a deal maker. He’ll make a deal with whomever has congress. Trump will make every deal possible – he’ll deal himself out of a job.

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  9. Miffed White Male Member
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    Matt Bartle (View Comment):

    Poignant comment by John Hinderaker over at Powerline today: “you can vote for conservatism, but you can’t get it.”

    More interesting, from the same article:

    It is interesting to see how Republican senators voted. But the Democrats who voted No are even more interesting. A few are random, like Ed Markey and Claire McCaskill, although leadership obviously made sure there were plenty of Yes votes to pass the bill. But the Senate Democrats who are seeking national office all voted No: Cory Booker, Kirsten Gillibrand, Kamala Harris, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. [emphasis added]

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  10. cdor Member
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    Derek Simmons (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):
    The last paragraph above is nothing more than Never Trump vindictive…sad that you had to go there.

    If you or anyone had the inclination, a walk down my memory lane of my Ricochet or Twitter posts would clearly show that I never was NeverTrump, am not NeverTrump now, and will not be NeverTrump in the future. BUT…

    I fancy myself a realist. And though I wish it were not so, Trump just did himself in. I wish him well in his future endeavors. He certainly brought some hope to We the People in 2016 when there was none. But that hope left the building with his epic capitulation to The Swamp Creatures that delivered that Omnibus to his desk. Without his willingness to inflict a little short-term pain by use of his Veto pen, he doomed his Presidency. There is just no other magical thinking way out of that fact.

    Signing a terrible omnibus spending bill that does not promote his agenda, while devastating to his base, is surely not an impeachable offense. But you could be correct. Legality never seems to get in the way of getting their way for progressives.

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  11. Mark Camp Member
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    If Congress is the problem, then the solution for us must be to change Congress.  In the US system of government, that requires first changing the masses of ordinary people.  If it is true that “we have got to be taught, before it’s too late” to hate, it is not Congress that should be the target but our neighbors who selected them.

    Leaving aside the spiritual question of whether our spirit should be of hate or of love, just how does one go about changing the masses of ordinary people?  I think that there are two possible methods.

    The first is an appeal to common emotion.

    The second is an appeal to common thought.

    Regarding the first, any competent demagogue can show us how to do that, and social media tools can make the process faster.   The result is a hysterical mob, and that is known to be a powerful force for change.  A big enough hysterical mob could not only change Congress, it could lynch them.  Then Bernadette and Tom and their old Hyde Park comrades could go back to Plan A, although Michelle and Barack are getting a bit old for cop-killing and bomb-making.

    With respect to the second approach, an idea (say, that God created all men equal, and endowed them with certain inalienable rights) gets communicated to the masses in only one way.

    First,  it becomes a growing topic of debate in the intellectual elite. It eventually gets the support of an overpowering mass of intellectuals.  That gradually transforms into the support of an powerful mass of the second-hand dealers in ideas (Ricochet contributors, talk-show hosts, movie actors, CNN anchors, university Education professors, union leaders, singer-songwriters).  Maybe half-a-century after the start, it gets the intellectual support of a sufficient mass of ordinary people.

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  12. Kozak Member
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    cdor (View Comment):
    It does seem that the Republican congressmen considered that aspect a bonus.

    Lets see how they like it in November when a disgusted base sits on it’s hands.

     

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  13. Randy Webster Inactive
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    Mark Camp (View Comment):
    First, it becomes a growing topic of debate in the intellectual elite. It eventually gets the support of an overpowering mass of intellectuals.

    Unfortunately, the overpowering mass of “intellectuals” aren’t interested in unalienable rights.

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  14. Unsk Member
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    This is not the end. Or the beginning.

    Trumps bobs and weaves with no apparent purpose. Tweets also for the same hell if I know reason   Yep, He should have vetoed this piece of crap, but for whatever reason he didn’t. And yup, it is really frustrating. But then he will surprise you with something good.

    He is all we’ve got and remember the alternative is like committing hari-kari. Pence would be no better. I really doubt he would stand up to McConnell and Ryan. He has never shown much of a spine on the big issues. The GOPe would gobble him up and spit him out.

    Despite the ridiculous scheming of McConnell and friends the Pubs will likely pick up Senate seats in November only because the math is so heavily in their favor and because the Dems seem so hellbent on going over an irrational Leftist  cliff into the abyss any chance they get.  Yes the Pubs are very bad, but the Dems are ten times worse at least.

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  15. livingthenonScienceFictionlife Inactive
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    OmegaPaladin: Get a Congress that is consistently conservative and the GOP will stand for more than just Trump.

    That would require a nation that is consistently conservative.  

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  16. RightAngles Member
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     A group of baboons is called a “Congress.” 

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