Everything About Trump’s Massive Military Parade Idea Is Bad

 

Everything. Would one of America’s top generals please tell Donald “George S. Patton” Trump to chill out?

As I discussed with Steve Hayes and the Washington Examiner’s Sarah Westwood in today’s podcast...

The Washington Post is reporting that President Trump has told the Pentagon to plan a massive military parade in the streets of Washington DC. Trump was reportedly inspired by the Bastille Day parade he saw in France, featuring military tanks, armored vehicles, gun trucks and fighter-jet flyovers. Afterward, he looked around and asked, “Hey—why don’t we do that?”

So now, apparently, we are.

But before we dump millions of tax dollars into the Trump du Triomphe Military March and Motocross Rally (“Sunday, Sunday, Sunday! Watch our monster tanks jump four nuclear-tipped missiles!”), I’d like to answer the question about why we don’t do it.

Because, Mr. President, we don’t have to. If you want to see a French fighter jet in action, you pretty much gotta wait for a parade. But if you want to see an American one? Just look up in the skies over Afghanistan, where US jets are blowing the crap out of the Taliban. No need to wait for Bastille Day to see American soldiers on the march, either. They’re mopping up ISIS in Syria and Iraq right now.

In short, everything about Trump’s massive military parade idea is bad. It’s big government, it’s wasted tax dollars, and worst of all—it’s French! Let’s hope SecDef Jim Mattis knocks some sense into Trump’s head before it’s too late.

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  1. Sabrdance Member
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    The Whether Man (View Comment):
    People who oppose the idea oppose a military parade – military tanks, missiles, and hardware marching down Pennsylvania Avenue before Trump in a reviewing stand — do so at least in part because it conjures up too many images of fascist and communist states. Everyone would have been crying foul if Obama had ever dreamed of suggesting it.

    These people need more reference points in their lives.  All our allies do these reviews from time to time.  Trump got the idea from the Bastille Day celebrations in France, but you can see them every year in the Netherlands, Denmark, Spain, and so on.  If the only time you’ve ever seen a military parade is when the USSR did them, you need to get out more.

    And had Obama done something like this, I’d worry that he’d been hit in the head, because something like this is wildly, wildly out of character for him.  But I’d hardly be upset if the President wanted to hold a military parade on a holiday honoring the military.

    But instead of engaging that concern, we’re getting “I love parades” and “why do you have against the military/veterans?” Which is nuts. If this turns into a Veterans’ Day parade honoring those who served, literally no one will object to it. Left, right, center, Never Trump, Always Trump, whatever. No one will object. A “veterans’ day parade” and a “military parade” are not the same thing. It is possible to be for one and against the other.

    Mattis literally suggested, and Trump literally agreed to, a parade for the purpose of commemorating the Centennial of the conclusion of the First World War -and also said to look into July 4 and Memorial Day -and everyone is currently going nuts over it.

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  2. Spin Inactive
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    Instugator (View Comment):
    Yeah – cause the guys who have been fighting overseas since 9/11/2001 certainly don’t need the recognition.

    </sarc/>

    Military parades aren’t about honoring or recognizing the soldier.  They are about Generals impressing their bosses.  this US Army Tanker says [expletive] that.

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  3. mesulkanen Member
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    I think a parade to acknowledge and honor 17 years of sacrifice by our armed forces in the Global War on Terror is a fine idea. I hope the same week major reforms in the VA will be announced. And we will just have to ignore that His Orangeness will think the parade is all about him.

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  4. Spin Inactive
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    mesulkanen (View Comment):
    I think a parade to acknowledge and honor 17 years of sacrifice by our armed forces in the Global War on Terror is a fine idea. I hope the same week major reforms in the VA will be announced. And we will just have to ignore that His Orangeness will think the parade is all about him.

    Great.  Make the Generals march.  Give the soldiers four days of free leave and $500 to spend.

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  5. dajoho Member
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    Michael Graham: Because, Mr. President, we don’t have to.

    And speaking as a retired soldier – we don’t want to .  There’s better things we could be doing .

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  6. Instugator Thatcher
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    Mike H (View Comment):

    Instugator (View Comment):
    Yeah – cause the guys who have been fighting overseas since 9/11/2001 certainly don’t need the recognition.

    </sarc/>

    I know we’re the good guys and everything, but military parades just strike me as creepy, even if they are well intentioned.

    Do you feel the same way about airshows?

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  7. Instugator Thatcher
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    cdor (View Comment):
    The first vision to appear in my mind was the May Day parade in Russia with the tanks and the missiles rolling down the street as the men and women in uniform march goosestep along.

    We also don’t have mobile ICBMs. Sure would be cool to see a Transporter-Erector driving down the road.

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  8. Instugator Thatcher
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    Spin (View Comment):

    Instugator (View Comment):
    Yeah – cause the guys who have been fighting overseas since 9/11/2001 certainly don’t need the recognition.

    </sarc/>

    Military parades aren’t about honoring or recognizing the soldier. They are about Generals impressing their bosses. this US Army Tanker says [expletive] that.

    Yeah, this was totally to assuage the ego of Generals.

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  9. Spin Inactive
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    Instugator (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    Instugator (View Comment):
    Yeah – cause the guys who have been fighting overseas since 9/11/2001 certainly don’t need the recognition.

    </sarc/>

    Military parades aren’t about honoring or recognizing the soldier. They are about Generals impressing their bosses. this US Army Tanker says [expletive] that.

    Yeah, this was totally to assuage the ego of Generals.

    You can say whatever you want.  I’m telling you, as a solider, if you want to honor them, by all means make them spit shine their boots, polish up their brass, crease their trousers, and stand around waiting for some West Point jake to tell them it’s time to march.  Because we love that crap.

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  10. Instugator Thatcher
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    Spin (View Comment):
    I’m telling you, as a solider, if you want to honor them, by all means make them spit shine their boots, polish up their brass, crease their trousers, and stand around waiting for some West Point jake to tell them it’s time to march. Because we love that crap.

    I’m telling you, as an Airman, that I have marched in a couple parades in DC as part of my USAFA contingent. Wasn’t that bad, and the trip itself was awesome.

    Boots don’t get polished anymore (shows up too easily on NVG/IR detection systems). Starch ruins flame retardant properties and most people have corfam shoes.

    Full disclosure – I hated corfams – I would rather spit shine my shoes/boots – back when we shined them.

    Life is much better when you have a positive outlook.

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  11. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    Instugator (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):
    I’m telling you, as a solider, if you want to honor them, by all means make them spit shine their boots, polish up their brass, crease their trousers, and stand around waiting for some West Point jake to tell them it’s time to march. Because we love that crap.

    I’m telling you, as an Airman, that I have marched in a couple parades in DC as part of my USAFA contingent. Wasn’t that bad, and the trip itself was awesome.

    Boots don’t get polished anymore (shows up too easily on NVG/IR detection systems). Starch ruins flame retardant properties and most people have corfam shoes.

    Full disclosure – I hated corfams – I would rather spit shine my shoes/boots – back when we shined them.

    Life is much better when you have a positive outlook.

    Well that leaves Spin out.

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  12. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    cdor (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):
    They need to have a massive show. Then afterward cut to Oval Office with Trump and a GIANT red button that says North Korea as a target then have Trump slamimg his hand down and cut out before it hits.

    How about a giant fireworks show and for a finale set off a nuke?

    Now you are just being silly…aren’t you?

    Maybe, we could set it off on an island close to NK just for bumps and giggles.  It would be awesome.

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  13. Valiuth Member
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    Stad (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):
    Yes I think we would. The Military is not what preserves our system nor the institution from which our prosperity flows. Our civic and civil institutions are responsible for our success and liberty and for the strength and efficacy of our military. The US military does not exist independent of our civilian institutions, and has always been subservient to them. Throughout our history we have often greatly scaled down and dismantled our military with no commensurate loss of liberty or prosperity.

    I think you are close to contradicting yourself.

    Yes indeed, our military “preserves” our “system” and “institution” from attacks from abroad. (And our prosperity flows from our capitalist economic system.)

    And yes, our military does do so at the behest and command of civilian masters.

    You state this, but I think the way you stated it undervalues what our military means to us, and the fact it’s a vital tool for our freedom. If I’ve misinterpreted your words, please say so.

    I don’t really follow what you mean by tool in this case. But let me back up. Freedom or our natural rights are innate to us as humans. To preserve our freedoms or rights we have established a government which is enshrined in the Constitution. The military is a part of that larger institution and it is not more necessery than other parts like our courts or law enforcement. Simply having a military is not a guarantee of anything in and of itself. The military is one of the tools of our constitutional order for its preservation it isn’t the tool, but a tool. Vital? Certainly in a world of potential global conflict, but it is not singular in it’s importance to our freedom.

    I am all for appreciating the service of our military, but in trying to praise this institution we should not seek to elevate it beyond it’s place in our constitutional scheme.

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  14. Instugator Thatcher
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):
    They need to have a massive show. Then afterward cut to Oval Office with Trump and a GIANT red button that says North Korea as a target then have Trump slamimg his hand down and cut out before it hits.

    How about a giant fireworks show and for a finale set off a nuke?

    Now you are just being silly…aren’t you?

    Maybe, we could set it off on an island close to NK just for bumps and giggles. It would be awesome.

    Liberals think that is the appropriate use of a nuke. See here.

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  15. The Whether Man Inactive
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    Valiuth (View Comment):

    The Whether Man (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):
    Thank goodness he hasn’t gone to North Korea yet and seen them put on their people’s games and massive coordinated dances.

    That’s in South Korea.

    I did hear they might be giving the Norks a spot in the opening pageant. To be frank, I have seen footage of the North Korean’s grand performances, and they are impressive feats of coordination and choreography. Then again totalitarian regimes always put on a good show. That is kind of their thing.

    At the last World’s Fair I saw video of a really impressive North Korean display in their pavilion: it involved a woman singing a patriotic song while ice skating and juggling live birds. The live birds really sold it.

    I can’t tell if you are kidding… with North Korea anything is possible I feel.

    Not joking. I didn’t have a cell phone that could take video then, so sadly, all I have are my fond memories to fall back on.

    As for the rest of this – whatever. Once you get your first completely uncalled for “TDS” accusation in a thread, it’s time to recognize that you’re not having a conversation anymore. It was nice while it lasted.

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  16. Instugator Thatcher
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    The Whether Man (View Comment):
    People who oppose the idea oppose a military parade – military tanks, missiles, and hardware marching down Pennsylvania Avenue before Trump in a reviewing stand — do so at least in part because it conjures up too many images of fascist and communist states.

    Yep, that one in 1991 was totally in a fascist/communist country because only they have military parades.

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  17. Instugator Thatcher
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    By the way, did anyone else see Nancy Pelosi’s 8 hour rant the other day?

    Only Communists and Fascists give 8 hour speeches and expect you to listen.

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  18. Stad Coolidge
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):
    Maybe, we could set it off on an island close to NK just for bumps and giggles. It would be awesome.

    I would prefer the streets pf Pyongyang . . .

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  19. Misthiocracy, Joke Pending Member
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    Spin (View Comment):

    Instugator (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    Instugator (View Comment):
    Yeah – cause the guys who have been fighting overseas since 9/11/2001 certainly don’t need the recognition.

    </sarc/>

    Military parades aren’t about honoring or recognizing the soldier. They are about Generals impressing their bosses. this US Army Tanker says [expletive] that.

    Yeah, this was totally to assuage the ego of Generals.

    You can say whatever you want. I’m telling you, as a solider, if you want to honor them, by all means make them spit shine their boots, polish up their brass, crease their trousers, and stand around waiting for some West Point jake to tell them it’s time to march. Because we love that crap.

    What if it was strictly voluntary?

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  20. Misthiocracy, Joke Pending Member
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    Instugator (View Comment):

    The Whether Man (View Comment):
    People who oppose the idea oppose a military parade – military tanks, missiles, and hardware marching down Pennsylvania Avenue before Trump in a reviewing stand — do so at least in part because it conjures up too many images of fascist and communist states.

    Yep, that one in 1991 was totally in a fascist/communist country because only they have military parades.

    Did it include formations of tanks, APCs, guns, and missile launchers rolling down the streets?  That’s the bit that concerns me, not the soldiers (preferably veterans) marching.

     

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  21. Michael Graham Member
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    Pony Convertible (View Comment):
    Well gee-whiz, lets close all the military museums, quit doing fly-overs at the Indy 500, and stop showing off military planes at air shows. Let’s also quit shooting fireworks on Independence Day. All that celebrating is just a waste.

    My first thought when I read this column was to wonder if I looked up “Party Pooper” in Wikileaks if I’d find the name Micheal Graham.

    I use a nom de poo, so I’m under “Pooper, Le Party”

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  22. Valiuth Member
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    Michael Graham (View Comment):

    Pony Convertible (View Comment):
    Well gee-whiz, lets close all the military museums, quit doing fly-overs at the Indy 500, and stop showing off military planes at air shows. Let’s also quit shooting fireworks on Independence Day. All that celebrating is just a waste.

    My first thought when I read this column was to wonder if I looked up “Party Pooper” in Wikileaks if I’d find the name Micheal Graham.

    I use a nom de poo, so I’m under “Pooper, Le Party”

    Sacre merde!

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  23. Stad Coolidge
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    Valiuth (View Comment):
    Sacre merde!

    Hey, didn’t Graham star in that TV hit, “Merde, He Wrote”?

    Ba-da-BING!

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  24. Fred Houstan Member
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    Seawriter (View Comment):
    As Glen Reynolds would put it, “The rubes self-identify.”

    Yes, the vague construction, in my head, based on the news story, is a horrible idea. You had me in agreement until this unnecessary insult.

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  25. Ray Gunner Coolidge
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    Wait a second.  With specific reference to the American military, Washington D.C. and environs are home to the WWII Memorial; the WWI Memorial, the Tomb of the Unknowns, the U.S. Coast Guard Memorial, the Korean War Veterans memorial, the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, the Vietnam Women’s Memorial, the Marine Memorial, the Women In Military Service Memorial, the U.S. Air Force Memorial, the Navy Merchant Marine Memorial, the National Museum of American Jewish Military History, the African American Civil War Museum, the Soldier’s Home (a Civil War memorial); the United States Navy Memorial; the National Guard Memorial Museum; the American Veterans Disabled for Life Memorial; the Grand Army of the Republic Monument; the U.S. Grant Memorial, Arlington National Cemetery, the Washington Monument….

    But we should be appalled at the suggestion of a military parade on the streets of Washington D.C. because it would be….what?…..too militaristic?  

     

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  26. dajoho Member
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    Just say no.

    https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/02/08/89-of-readers-say-no-parade/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=ebb%2002.09.18&utm_term=Editorial%20-%20Early%20Bird%20Brief

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