Trump’s Military Parade Idea Sets Up Democrats for Another Fall

 

Trump was inspired by the Bastille Day parade he attended last summer in Paris.

President Trump and the Pentagon are quietly planning a grand military parade to roll through Washington DC later this year:

The inspiration for Trump’s push is last year’s Bastille Day celebration in Paris, which the president attended as a guest of French President Emmanuel Macron. Trump was awestruck by the tableau of uniformed French troops marching down Avenue des Champs-Elysees with military tanks, armored vehicles, gun trucks and carriers — complete with fighter jets flying over the Arc de Triomphe and painting the sky with streaks of blue, white and red smoke for the colors of the French flag.

Aboard Air Force One en route home from Paris last July, aides said Trump told them he was dazzled by the French display and said he wanted one at home.

It was still on his mind two months later when he met with Macron on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly in New York.

“It was one of the greatest parades I’ve ever seen,” Trump told reporters. “It was two hours on the button, and it was military might, and I think a tremendous thing for France and for the spirit of France.”

Seated next to Macron, Trump added: “We’re going to have to try to top it.”

Military parades like this are uncommon in recent history, but certainly not unheard of. Presidents Truman and Kennedy featured military hardware in their inaugural parades. Presidents George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton had fighter jets scream through the sky for their inaugurations. The elder Bush also had a DC military parade to celebrate victory following the Gulf War.

The Washington Post broke this story about 90 minutes ago and, ever since, social media has exploded in outrage.

Since this is Trump’s idea, I think we all know how it will go down. Nearly everyone from political and media castes will deride the parade, comparing Trump to Hitler. In an effort to impress their woke friends, several prominent voices will go too far by savagely denigrating the military itself. Then the American people will be polled and we’ll find out that they like the idea.

It’s the NFL protests all over again.

I’m a veteran who’s not thrilled about a big parade. Everyone on earth knows that America has the biggest, baddest military the world has ever seen — we don’t need to brag. And with a $20 trillion debt, I’d rather the money not be spent on chest-beating hoopla. But the average American doesn’t care about our shaky finances and adores our military.

A grand military display is poor economics, but I predict it will be smart politics heading into the midterms. Trump is once again Lucy from Peanuts setting up the football and the press is Charlie Brown, falling tail over tea kettle into another puddle of mud.

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  1. OldPhil Coolidge
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    Ansonia (View Comment):
    I don’t want anything like the Bastille Day parade. That kind of strutting is more like Europe and Russia.

    I completely agree with this sentiment. A good Memorial Day or Veterans Day parade with floats, bands and everything is a great idea, but no grand military exhibition, please.

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  2. Skyler Coolidge
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    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed.: But since this is Trump’s idea, I think we all know how it will go down. Nearly everyone from political and media castes will deride this idea, comparing Trump to Hitler. In an effort to impress their woke friends, several prominent voices will go too far by savagely denigrating the military itself. Then the American people will be polled and we’ll find out that they like the idea.

    Yes it will cost a bundle, Jon, and your point above is correct. I also think, however, that we’re sending an important message to our military: even though Congress is screwing around with the military budget, and we have to recover from major cutbacks, we value and support you.

    Or it’s sending a message to the military that we don’t care that you have a mission to protect the nation, we want you to spend weeks marching around practicing so we can prance like little poodles for the circus.

    Our military is utilitarian, not frilly.

    Then why the dress uniforms?

    Yes, why?  If you notice, the military tends to get rid of dress uniforms and the field uniforms tend to get promoted to a service uniform and then to dress uniform.  I predict in a hundred years the dress uniform will have a camouflage pattern.

    The Marines retained a dress uniform until the end of WWII that included those huge 19th century epaullettes.  No one wore it during the war, and it was quietly retired when the war ended.

    Then we got rid of the khaki uniform in the 70’s.  In the 90’s we got rid of the dress whites.  (I liked those.)

    In parades of this nature, you usually wear the field uniform.  Except that our field uniform is no longer worn in combat.  It gets rather bewildering after a while.  Someday that marpat uniform will be the dress uniform and we no longer wear it in battle.

    Why do we have dress uniforms?  For fancy occasions.  For when you’re a military attache at an embassy and have to go to formal dinner parties.  For the Marine Corps Ball.

    About 99% of Marines never wear their dress blues except to the Marine Corps Ball.  Or recruiting duty.  And ever since Al Grey was the commandant, we’ve hardly ever worn the service uniform except to testify to Congress.

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  3. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Skyler (View Comment):

    Fred Cole (View Comment):
    Also the cost of transporting military equipment. Trump wants tanks, which means transporting those tanks, which is a big operation.

    And repairing the roads destroyed by the tanks.

    We could always cover the tank treads with old pussy hats and make everyone happy.

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  4. Judge Mental Member
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    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):

    Fred Cole (View Comment):
    Also the cost of transporting military equipment. Trump wants tanks, which means transporting those tanks, which is a big operation.

    And repairing the roads destroyed by the tanks.

    We could always cover the tank treads with old pussy hats and make everyone happy.

    Yeah, that wouldn’t cause hysteria or anything.

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  5. Kozak Member
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    Skyler (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed.: But since this is Trump’s idea, I think we all know how it will go down. Nearly everyone from political and media castes will deride this idea, comparing Trump to Hitler. In an effort to impress their woke friends, several prominent voices will go too far by savagely denigrating the military itself. Then the American people will be polled and we’ll find out that they like the idea.

    Yes it will cost a bundle, Jon, and your point above is correct. I also think, however, that we’re sending an important message to our military: even though Congress is screwing around with the military budget, and we have to recover from major cutbacks, we value and support you.

    Or it’s sending a message to the military that we don’t care that you have a mission to protect the nation, we want you to spend weeks marching around practicing so you can prance like little poodles for the circus.

    Our military is utilitarian, not frilly.

    Oh come on.  You don’t think the troops would appreciate huge cheering crowds.

    Should we cancel the flybys at every major sporting event?  I mean, that costs money, takes time and makes the pilots poodles right?

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  6. iWe Coolidge
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    I am very torn on this.

    A big American military parade smacks of an insecurity complex. It is positively un-American.

    On the other hand, publicly showing our pride in our military is a very good thing, indeed. Liberals treat the military like tools in a box, while bureaucrats are honored as philosopher kings who come down to provide “public service.”

    I’d love to see a big public spectacle that honors our fighting forces – but a parade rubs me entirely the wrong way. Of course, I never go to parades of any kind; I have never understood the attraction. So perhaps my judgement is entirely flawed in this respect.

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  7. Western Chauvinist Member
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    The Whether Man (View Comment):
    “France does it” is not a reason to do anything,

    Oh, I don’t know. Let’s not be Francophobic. The French get something like 70% of their energy from nuclear. Zero carbon emissions. Obama made it a point to Europeanize the US in every way except for the ways that work.

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  8. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Skyler (View Comment):
    but because it will cause the people to lose respect for it.

    Downtown Colorado Springs (military town only lacking Navy/Marines because we’re landlocked). Four corners occupied by old white people (why is it always old white hippies?). Signs read: Defund the military, Stop WWIII.

    I was behind an old white woman at the pharmacy drive through the other day. She had the same message scribbled on the rear window of her car!

    Lefties already hate the military. Haters gonna hate. We are a nation divided.

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  9. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Kozak (View Comment):
    Should we cancel the flybys at every major sporting event?

    Obama did that at the academies — including the Air Force Academy!! The flyovers for the football games were private operations using restored aircraft. Ever notice how much time the flag was flown at half mast under Obama? Coincidence? I think not.

    We shouldn’t let lefties and Trump haters smear American nationalism.

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  10. Valiuth Member
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    iWe (View Comment):
    I am very torn on this.

    A big American military parade smacks of an insecurity complex. It is positively un-American.

    On the other hand, publicly showing our pride in our military is a very good thing, indeed. Liberals treat the military like tools in a box, while bureaucrats are honored as philosopher kings who come down to provide “public service.”

    I’d love to see a big public spectacle that honors our fighting forces – but a parade rubs me entirely the wrong way. Of course, I never go to parades of any kind; I have never understood the attraction. So perhaps my judgement is entirely flawed in this respect.

    Well why not have something like an air show? But for all the branches of the armed services. People like air shows. Though I don’t really know how easily you could do the Navy one.

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  11. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Valiuth (View Comment):

    iWe (View Comment):
    I am very torn on this.

    A big American military parade smacks of an insecurity complex. It is positively un-American.

    On the other hand, publicly showing our pride in our military is a very good thing, indeed. Liberals treat the military like tools in a box, while bureaucrats are honored as philosopher kings who come down to provide “public service.”

    I’d love to see a big public spectacle that honors our fighting forces – but a parade rubs me entirely the wrong way. Of course, I never go to parades of any kind; I have never understood the attraction. So perhaps my judgement is entirely flawed in this respect.

    Well why not have something like an air show? But for all the branches of the armed services. People like air shows. Though I don’t really know how easily you could do the Navy one.

    The Tidal Basin, of course.

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  12. Skyler Coolidge
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    Kozak (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed.: But since this is Trump’s idea, I think we all know how it will go down. Nearly everyone from political and media castes will deride this idea, comparing Trump to Hitler. In an effort to impress their woke friends, several prominent voices will go too far by savagely denigrating the military itself. Then the American people will be polled and we’ll find out that they like the idea.

    Yes it will cost a bundle, Jon, and your point above is correct. I also think, however, that we’re sending an important message to our military: even though Congress is screwing around with the military budget, and we have to recover from major cutbacks, we value and support you.

    Or it’s sending a message to the military that we don’t care that you have a mission to protect the nation, we want you to spend weeks marching around practicing so you can prance like little poodles for the circus.

    Our military is utilitarian, not frilly.

    Oh come on. You don’t think the troops would appreciate huge cheering crowds.

    Should we cancel the flybys at every major sporting event? I mean, that costs money, takes time and makes the pilots poodles right?

    Those fly bys are not political and are paid for with recruiting dollars.

    Trump’s proposed parade is being billed (by his enemies, I admit) as a purely political stunt.  I dont’ much like his political enemies, but having been made a political act, it is inappropriate for the military to be involved, unless it’s for a specific event, such as the Centennial of the end of WWI.

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  13. Seawriter Contributor
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    Skyler (View Comment):
    Trump’s proposed parade is being billed (by his enemies, I admit) as a purely political stunt. I dont’ much like his political enemies, but having been made a political act, it is inappropriate for the military to be involved, unless it’s for a specific event, such as the Centennial of the end of WWI.

    Are you saying his enemies have the right to decide what and what is not a political act by President Trump? By that logic if the North Koreans launch a nuclear-tipped missile at Honolulu, and Trump’s political enemies state if he retaliates it will be a political act Trump would not be allowed to involve the military in actions against North Korea.

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  14. Judge Mental Member
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    Seawriter (View Comment):

    Are you saying his enemies have the right to decide what and what is not a political act by President Trump? By that logic if the North Koreans launch a nuclear-tipped missile at Honolulu, and Trump’s political enemies state if he retaliates it will be a political act Trump would not be allowed to involve the military in actions against North Korea.

    But that argument will come after the argument that we can’t retaliate because we deserved it.

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  15. MarciN Member
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    There are some persistent iconic images in the American mind–the GI kissing his girlfriend on the dock after World War II, the little girl running from the Agent Orange in Vietnam, and many others. The textbook pictures of Communist and Nazi military parades in front of their capitols are some of the strongest icons, and they create some of the worst mental associations for people. Every little kid is shown those pictures and says to himself or herself, “We’re not like that. That’s how I know they are the bad guys and we’re the good guys.” There’s nothing we can do to overwrite those images and their psychological associations.

     

     

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  16. Kozak Member
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    Skyler (View Comment):

    it is inappropriate for the military to be involved, unless it’s for a specific event, such as the Centennial of the end of WWI.

    Fine have a parade in Nov to celebrate the 100 th anniversary of the end of WW1.

    Check and Mate.

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  17. MarciN Member
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    Kozak (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):

    it is inappropriate for the military to be involved, unless it’s for a specific event, such as the Centennial of the end of WWI.

    Fine have a parade in Nov to celebrate the 100 th anniversary of the end of WW1.

    Check and Mate.

    I like that idea.

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  18. Hypatia Member
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    Ok let’s face it:

    whoever is tired of Trump

    is tired of life.

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  19. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Wow. So much angst over a flipping military parade. The Republic used to have them in the good old days when we were closer to the constitutional norm. Now we are far from that so I guess they should be forbidden because only Nazis and Commies do them. And France.

    Yall are funny.

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  20. Fred Cole Inactive
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    Hypatia (View Comment):
    Ok let’s face it:

    whoever is tired of Trump

    is tired of life.

    How do you figure?

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  21. A-Squared Inactive
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    Kozak (View Comment):
    Oh come on. You don’t think the troops would appreciate huge cheering crowds.

    Soldiers hate parades. The division parade that I participated in three times was the absolute worst part of my year, and that included the near monthly experience of times working a full day, and then spending 6 hours preparing for a jump, 2 hours flying “nap of the earth” to jump out of a perfectly good airplane in the middle of the night, landing like a sack of [CoC], then carrying my chute plus all my gear all the way across the drop zone, getting home at 4 am and then having to be back at work by 10.  I would choose that a hundred times over a parade.

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  22. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Hypatia (View Comment):
    Ok let’s face it:

    whoever is tired of Trump

    is tired of life.

    Well, they’re not having as much fun as the rest of us, that’s for sure!

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  23. TBA Coolidge
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    Valiuth (View Comment):

     

    Well why not have something like an air show? But for all the branches of the armed services. People like air shows. Though I don’t really know how easily you could do the Navy one.

    If you can get an aircraft carrier going fast enough you can just drive it up onto the beach. Couple of escalators and boom, instant air show.

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  24. Full Size Tabby Member
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    Valiuth (View Comment):

    iWe (View Comment):
    I am very torn on this.

    [ . . . ]

     

    Well why not have something like an air show? But for all the branches of the armed services. People like air shows. Though I don’t really know how easily you could do the Navy one.

    A Navy air show is easy (the Blue Angels demonstrate all over the country). A Navy ship show might be a little more difficult.

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  25. Skyler Coolidge
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    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    iWe (View Comment):
    I am very torn on this.

    [ . . . ]

    Well why not have something like an air show? But for all the branches of the armed services. People like air shows. Though I don’t really know how easily you could do the Navy one.

    A Navy air show is easy (the Blue Angels demonstrate all over the country). A Navy ship show might be a little more difficult.

    Didn’t Nero create a lake to show off his ships?

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  26. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Skyler (View Comment):

    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    iWe (View Comment):
    I am very torn on this.

    [ . . . ]

    Well why not have something like an air show? But for all the branches of the armed services. People like air shows. Though I don’t really know how easily you could do the Navy one.

    A Navy air show is easy (the Blue Angels demonstrate all over the country). A Navy ship show might be a little more difficult.

    Didn’t Nero create a lake to show off his ships?

    The Coliseum was the venue for naval battle reenactments. Unless that’s a myth.

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  27. Skyler Coolidge
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):

    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    iWe (View Comment):
    I am very torn on this.

    [ . . . ]

    Well why not have something like an air show? But for all the branches of the armed services. People like air shows. Though I don’t really know how easily you could do the Navy one.

    A Navy air show is easy (the Blue Angels demonstrate all over the country). A Navy ship show might be a little more difficult.

    Didn’t Nero create a lake to show off his ships?

    The Coliseum was the venue for naval battle reenactments. Unless that’s a myth.

    I’m pretty sure they dug up the sunken ships recently.

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  28. Seawriter Contributor
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    Skyler (View Comment):

    Didn’t Nero create a lake to show off his ships?

    The Coliseum was the venue for naval battle reenactments. Unless that’s a myth.

    I’m pretty sure they dug up the sunken ships recently.

    I think two things are being conflated:

    1. Naumachia (mock sea battles) staged in Ancient Rome. that did this.
    2. Caligula’s Lake Nemi party boats.

    The Lake Nemi boats were among the earliest examples of nautical archaeology, the first attempt to raise them being made in the fifteenth century. They were really floating palaces. They were finally fully excavated in the 20th century, but the vessels destroyed during World War II.

    The first naumochia were held by Julius Caesar, with the arena created by digging a shallow basin on the Tiber. Claudius held the biggest one on Lake Fucino – fifty ships on each side with enough space for them to ram each other. They were later held in amphitheaters (including the Coliseum) but these were much smaller spectacles.

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  29. TBA Coolidge
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    Seawriter (View Comment):

    I think two things are being conflated:

    1. Naumachia (mock sea battles) staged in Ancient Rome. that did this.)
    2. Caligula’s Lake Nemi party boats.

    The Lake Nemi boats were among the earliest examples of nautical archaeology, the first attempt to raise them being made in the fifteenth century. They were really floating palaces. They were finally fully excavated in the 20th century, but the vessels destroyed during World War II.

    The first naumochia were held by Julius Caesar, with the arena created by digging a shallow basin on the Tiber. Claudius held the biggest one on Lake Fucino – fifty ships on each side with enough space for them to ram each other. They were later held in amphitheaters (including the Coliseum) but these were much smaller spectacles.

    The origin of our modern demolition derby.

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  30. OldPhil Coolidge
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    Fred Cole (View Comment):

    Hypatia (View Comment):
    Ok let’s face it:

    whoever is tired of Trump

    is tired of life.

    How do you figure?

    This is one on which I have to agree with you.

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