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Senate Democrats Vote to Shutdown Federal Government
Working late into the night, the US Senate has rejected advancing a bill that would fund the federal government for the next 30 days. That means the government will technically shut down at midnight Eastern Time.
Senate Democratic leadership opposed the bill in an attempt to force Republicans to accept their terms on DACA. Sixty votes were needed for passage, but 48 senators voted against it.
Four Republicans — Jeff Flake, Lindsey Graham, Mike Lee, and Rand Paul — voted against advancing the continuing resolution. Five Democrats — Joe Donnelly, Heidi Heitkamp, Doug Jones, Joe Manchin, and Claire McCaskill — broke with their party and voted for the bill. Arizona Senator John McCain was absent for health reasons.
“This is completely unfair and uncompassionate for my Democratic colleagues to filibuster government funding, harm our troops, and jeopardize health coverage for nine million children because extreme elements of their base want illegal immigration to crowd out every other priority,” Senate Majority Leader McConnell said.
Serious effects of a shutdown won’t be felt until government employees are scheduled to return to work Monday morning. There is still a chance a compromise could be reached before that time.
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Just let DACA come to the floor and receive an up or down vote. 80% of Americans, and a majority of Republicans support DACA.
Let’s focus on the guilty parents first. Then we can focus on the children. Unless, as you say, Schumer’s game is to let everybody stay. In which case, I have no intention of giving him his DACA hamburger before he pays for it.
No one needs be punished, except for the leadership who turned their head 15-20 years ago, and permitted insanity.
I have no qualms about moving toward solutions, not punishment and blame.
But it is wrong, just wrong, to hold our current military and families hostage in this DACA debacle discussion.
This. Ω^^^Ω
Great!!! We are in total agreement as to your first two points, and general agreement about the third.
I also want to end chain migration. I want to see a shift from family reunification to a skills based immigration system.
I also want to end sanctuary cities and states. Pass legislation that sanctuary cities will lose a substantial share of federal highway funds.
I want to have enforcement of immigation law, especially when someone is convicted of a violent crime.
However, the young adults who were brought here as kids should have a break. They are innocents. The DACA bill is narrowly tailored to prevent chain migration and should receive a vote.
Actually I would be for digging up Ted Kennedy’s remains and publicly burning them.
Fair with me.
@garyrobbins, where is the text of such a bill? There seem to be so many different stated versions of what a “deal” looks like.
I believe that it is. If I am wrong, I want to know about it. Trump has said that he supports a legislative DACA. It would be really helpful if he would outline what that would mean.
From the Brookings link “Regular Order” emphasis mine:
How is this behavior linked to the idea of leadership?
I agree. I think that all is being asked is for the DACA bill to be put on the House and Senate floor. I would prefer an open amendment process. We done not need a monster 1,000+ page comphrensive bill, just a limited bill that allows for the 700,000 young adults brought here as children to stay.
And, yes, give Trump $7 Billion to spend on a wall.
Huh?
According to Vox.com:
In other words it went beyond DACA and was not at all what I understand your description of Graham’s own bill to be.
Our military are Americans. To tie the CR to the DACA issue puts the Dreamers (illegal immigrants) ahead of our military folks. Do I misunderstand?
I do hope this is drama, and that things get sorted out.
I am unsure if the four R’s who voted NO would have made the difference, and gotten this done.
Would you settle for taking you friends to seeing the movie “Chappaquiddick”?
Teddy Kennedy: “Moses had a temper.”
Response: “Yeah, Moses had a temper, but he didn’t leave a girl at the bottom of the Red Sea?”
Would someone please link to the Trailer?
I would not support that. We need a narrow bill that codifies the narrow limits of DACA.
He may say that in public, but I don’t believe that for a second.
He wants the parents legalized too, and his caucus wants them to be able to bring their third cousins twice removed along with them. That’s where the impasse is.
So our “leadership” will include unauthorized immigrants to enter through the same door as those who have been waiting in line? Sounds like a wiggle around the Dreamers alone, or including the Dreamers and at least some of their parents.
Again, I object to partnering the repairs for old problems with creating a clear immigration policy and enforcement for the future.
For all the moaning about Americans being evil Imperialists, it sounds like a lot of world citizens want what Americans have.
Why can’t they just make their own American-style paradise, in their homeland? Sounds like 47% of Americans understand their plight, and have a keen interest to invest the sweat of their brow and create prosperity within the nations struggling under the sun.
Teddy Kennedy was no Moses.
Have you learned nothing from the Reagan administration?
When the Democrats say, “Give us this now, and we’ll talk about what you want later,” there will never be a “later.” If we give them a clean DACA then chain migration and border security will never be spoken of again, and anyone who tries to broach the topic will be labeled an extremist.
No DACA until we can be assured it won’t happen again.
And congress critters should be docked for all time the govt is “shut down”. Why should they get paid for not doing their job? Including staff.
Gary, you know I have been your ally on recent threads, but you have been hoodwinked on this issue. Read Mark Krikorian’s analysis of Graham’s “bipartisan” bill and you will realize it is not a “clean” bill but an insult to every Republican that cares about the immigration issue. Schumer was adroit in getting our very stable genius President to give him this leverage in the first Chuck and Nancy meetup, and now we are paying the price. We can not be put in the position of Charlie Brown trying to kick the football one more time. DACA has to include common sense E-verify, sanctuary city and chain migration changes. These changes are also supported by over 70% of the population, just not the illegal alien lobby which includes Lindsey Graham and Jeff Flake.
And Schumer is willing to let American children die until he gets his way.
And end chain migration and the visa lottery and move to a merit based immigration system based on American needs. Then maybe you maybe a deal, but that is not the Schumer deal
They are here illegally.
The Democrats have chosen to vote against funding CHIP.
I am not conflating. I am stating the truth and deploying Progressive rhetoric to do so.
A. It’s the camels nose. When the numbers are “adjusted” in the future DACA will end up covering millions.
B. We harm kids all the time for illegal things their parents do. See families evicted or where the parent is fired and can’t find a job or with a parent in prison.
C. It’s a strawman argument in this case. DACA is not set to expire right now. The Democrats are using it as a weapon and are completely obstructing any attempt to get real border security and control on immigration.
We’ve seen this script before.
I want a wall, and an end to the immigration lottery and chain migration and real enforcement of visa overstays and people here illegally. Once we have those things, we can discuss what to do for the millions of illegals already here, the so called ” dreamers” as well.
While you should consider the source, according to the NYT, Schumer and Trump reached an agreement in their meeting, for increased military spending, the possibility of fully funding the wall, in exchange for Trump supporting a legislative DACA fix.
This agreement fell apart after the fact by Trump adding more conditions.
This reminds me of Boehner and Obama coming to an agreement on the debt limit with a modest tax increase which Boehner agreed to bring to the floor (which could have cost him his Speakership) only to have Obama demand additional federal spending.
Trump and Obama felt that they were master dealmakers. They are not. From negotiating hundreds of settlements agreements, bad faith like this in a small fractions of cases poisons the well and causes me to take those cases to trial.
Trump created this Government Shutdown by his bad faith.
I understand that the DACA bill specifically prohibited chain migration.
Well Teddy was responsible for guiding millions to the “promised land” through his bill in 1965 (?) that replaced merit migration with chain migration and his collusion in snookering Reagan.
It is my understanding that the narrow DACA bill prohibits chain migration. I also understand that the Dems agreed to appropriate $7 billion towards the wall.
Let’s not have the perfect be the enemy of the good.