Mueller Knows the Game — Raise the Stakes

 

It seems that as soon as there were rumors Trump was thinking of dumping Mueller, Mueller came up with the strategy laid out by Comey: Once you get a special prosecutor launched, that perch can be used to control the whole process. But, the collusion with Russia business didn’t seem to be taking off, did it? Mueller needed to act fast if he wanted to keep his position.

So, now Mueller decides — out of the blue — that he should look into obstruction of justice just like Comey was hinting at. This all seems planned with Rod Rosenstein, doesn’t it? Perhpas it’s ad hoc, but either way the important thing was to get the special prosecutor established firmly and on the hunt. And by hunting the president’s scalp directly, it would be much more difficult for Trump to fire him. Pretty clever, isn’t it? This all seems too contrived — it doesn’t even pass the Hollywood thriller smell test. It’s too far-fetched.

Mr. President: you and your hapless AG need to fire a bunch of the top people over there at Justice, starting with Rosenstein. The people still there are the ones who didn’t quit under Obama, remember. They are the true believers in ruining your presidency. Do it now — it will only get worse.

Update:

I heard Louie Gohmert on Hugh Hewitt’s show this morning — he agrees with me that this was done to make it harder for Trump to fire Mueller. Also, he said that Mueller did more damage to the FBI than Comey and that Mueller is very vindictive in his dealings with his political enemies.

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  1. Larry Koler Inactive
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    Valiuth (View Comment):
    Yes, why not goad Trump into another ill thought through firing of a justice department official over what is now widely believed to be an investigation of his conduct. Nothing bad can come of that. Firing Comey lead to Muller and Trump actually being investigated. If he fires Muller I think his odds of being impeached sky rocket. If you are actually innocent shouldn’t you actually start acting like it?

    Stopping this conspiracy is the right thing to do. Let the chips fall where they may.

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  2. Hypatia Member
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    Comey is mad that he got fired.  Even though he was persisting in an investigation of collusion which, he testified, doesn’t exist.

    So to get revenge for his firing, he leaks a report of one conversation with Trump, throws the entire country into confusion and suspicion for three weeks, succeeds in getting his bestest best  friend Mueller appointed as special counsel.  He proudly confirms all of this under oath.( Well,he probably wasn’t going to admit that he himself was the leaker if he didn’t have to; that wasn’t in his prepared written statement.  But now it’s out.)

    And GOP Congress members aren’t even suggesting that Mueller has to go?

    Gee, I’m so glad the Dems magnanimously gave the GOP their baseball trophy.  Cuz otherwise, they’d have no balls at all.

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  3. Gumby Mark Coolidge
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    Larry Koler (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):
    Yes, why not goad Trump into another ill thought through firing of a justice department official over what is now widely believed to be an investigation of his conduct. Nothing bad can come of that. Firing Comey lead to Muller and Trump actually being investigated. If he fires Muller I think his odds of being impeached sky rocket. If you are actually innocent shouldn’t you actually start acting like it?

    Stopping this conspiracy is the right thing to do. Let the chips fall where they may.

    Politics is about winning.  We don’t like losers.  We like winners.  Firing Mueller right now is a loser.

    • #33
  4. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    genferei (View Comment):
    It seems clear to me that having a reputation in Washington DC means nothing. Sessions has a great reputation – but gets played by shyster Comey – who had a great reputation – into appointing Mueller, who has a great reputation. But Comey’s obeisance to the Clinton machine was in the public domain, as is Mueller’s history of prosecutorial abuse. All these folks are such nakedly ambitious so-and-so’s I fear for the republic when a critical mass of the population (justifiably) loses faith in every part of government.

    Having a reputation in DC seems to be like having the reputation as the best piece of excrement in a sewer.  What exactly does it mean your still a piece of excrement.

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  5. I Walton Member
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    I was told by a person looking at a Federal prosecutor job outside of Washington, early in the Obama administration that the Obama DOJ was only hiring persons with strongly leftist credentials.  The place is probably poison from top to bottom and should be cleaned out wholesale, then investigated by the new bunch using Democrats rules for evidence.

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  6. Gumby Mark Coolidge
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    Valiuth (View Comment):
    Yes, why not goad Trump into another ill thought through firing of a justice department official over what is now widely believed to be an investigation of his conduct. Nothing bad can come of that. Firing Comey lead to Muller and Trump actually being investigated. If he fires Muller I think his odds of being impeached sky rocket. If you are actually innocent shouldn’t you actually start acting like it?

    I agree that Trump should not fire Mueller because it’s political suicide, but, for me, the revelation of Comeys testimony was that Trump has been acting like an innocent guy.  He didn’t object to investigating Russian interference but was frustrated he had an FBI Director privately, and repeatedly, telling him he was not under investigation yet refusing to say so publicly, while all these unsourced stories implying differently were circulating in the media.  And it then turns out his FBI Director was leaking everything unfavorable to Trump to the press but not leaking that he’d told him he was not under investigation!

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  7. Larry Koler Inactive
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    Gumby Mark (View Comment):

    Larry Koler (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):
    Yes, why not goad Trump into another ill thought through firing of a justice department official over what is now widely believed to be an investigation of his conduct. Nothing bad can come of that. Firing Comey lead to Muller and Trump actually being investigated. If he fires Muller I think his odds of being impeached sky rocket. If you are actually innocent shouldn’t you actually start acting like it?

    Stopping this conspiracy is the right thing to do. Let the chips fall where they may.

    Politics is about winning. We don’t like losers. We like winners. Firing Mueller right now is a loser.

    It’s a comparison with that versus how much you lose with letting him stay. There are risks either way — do the right thing.

    • #37
  8. Mike LaRoche Inactive
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    This coup attempt needs to be stopped, cold.

    • #38
  9. Guruforhire Inactive
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    Trump needs to appoint a special counsel to investigate the office of the special counsel(ethics, release of confidential information, and hatch act), and then a third special counsel to investigate that office of the second special counsel(Obstruction of the first) and a fourth to investigate aliens and the illuminati (because its more rational than anything else going on).

    Then appoint alex jones to investigate the fed and the bilderburg group.

     

    If we are going to go down this road, and based upon the democrats and (some, not all) neocons we are committed to destroying the country over the conspiracy theories of dangerously mentally ill hysterics, then lets commit and do this.

     

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  10. Gumby Mark Coolidge
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    Larry Koler (View Comment):

    Gumby Mark (View Comment):

    Larry Koler (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):
    Yes, why not goad Trump into another ill thought through firing of a justice department official over what is now widely believed to be an investigation of his conduct. Nothing bad can come of that. Firing Comey lead to Muller and Trump actually being investigated. If he fires Muller I think his odds of being impeached sky rocket. If you are actually innocent shouldn’t you actually start acting like it?

    Stopping this conspiracy is the right thing to do. Let the chips fall where they may.

    Politics is about winning. We don’t like losers. We like winners. Firing Mueller right now is a loser.

    It’s a comparison with that versus how much you lose with letting him stay. There are risks either way — do the right thing.

    My guess is the Trump risk equation looks like this:

    1. Fire Mueller, guarantee impeachment effort starts, half the GOP heads for the hills, legislative agenda completely halted.
    2. Don’t fire Mueller and gamble that Trump not indicted, nothing more than mild ancilliary damage and investigation wrapped up fairly quickly.  “So you’re saying I still have a chance“.
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  11. Hypatia Member
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    Gumby Mark (View Comment):

    Larry Koler (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):
    Yes, why not goad Trump into another ill thought through firing of a justice department official over what is now widely believed to be an investigation of his conduct. Nothing bad can come of that. Firing Comey lead to Muller and Trump actually being investigated. If he fires Muller I think his odds of being impeached sky rocket. If you are actually innocent shouldn’t you actually start acting like it?

    Stopping this conspiracy is the right thing to do. Let the chips fall where they may.

    Politics is about winning. We don’t like losers. We like winners. Firing Mueller right now is a loser.

    I agree that Trump cannot fire Mueller. He shouldn’t have to.  If Trump’s party had his back, Mueller would be long gone.  GOP Congress members shoukd be demanding, not suggesting, that Mueller be replaced by someone who is not Comey’s best friend.   How can they not be doing this?

    • #41
  12. Valiuth Member
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    Larry Koler (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):
    Yes, why not goad Trump into another ill thought through firing of a justice department official over what is now widely believed to be an investigation of his conduct. Nothing bad can come of that. Firing Comey lead to Muller and Trump actually being investigated. If he fires Muller I think his odds of being impeached sky rocket. If you are actually innocent shouldn’t you actually start acting like it?

    Stopping this conspiracy is the right thing to do. Let the chips fall where they may.

    Oh right, like this isn’t already the chips falling as they may already. You begin with the assumption of a conspiracy, and it will be conspiracy all the way down for you. If Trump does this and his administration goes up in flames of scandal and impeachment you will begin to claim this was the lefts plan all along to trick Trump into stepping on this very obvious land mine.

     

    Gumby Mark (View Comment):
    And it then turns out his FBI Director was leaking everything unfavorable to Trump to the press but not leaking that he’d told him he was not under investigation!

    What did Comey leak again? The only thing he leaked was the contents of his memos which he did after he was fired. That hardly counts as everything in fact it is barely anything. And only happened in response to Trump’s own incompetent firing of the guy. Maybe if Trump wouldn’t have tweeted at Comey on the way out and shown some class Comey he wouldn’t be in this mess. Trump is not the victim of any conspiracy he is a victim of his deep personal flaws.

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  13. Valiuth Member
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    Hypatia (View Comment):

    Gumby Mark (View Comment):

    Larry Koler (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):
    Yes, why not goad Trump into another ill thought through firing of a justice department official over what is now widely believed to be an investigation of his conduct. Nothing bad can come of that. Firing Comey lead to Muller and Trump actually being investigated. If he fires Muller I think his odds of being impeached sky rocket. If you are actually innocent shouldn’t you actually start acting like it?

    Stopping this conspiracy is the right thing to do. Let the chips fall where they may.

    Politics is about winning. We don’t like losers. We like winners. Firing Mueller right now is a loser.

    I agree that Trump cannot fire Mueller. He shouldn’t have to. If Trump’s party had his back, Mueller would be long gone. GOP Congress members shoukd be demanding, not suggesting, that Mueller be replaced by someone who is not Comey’s best friend. How can they not be doing this?

    If Trump could be trusted to be innocent, maybe they would have his back more. If he could be Trusted to at least stick with one lie they could have his back more. You can’t back Trump because, one there is probably a good chance he is guilty, and two because he will undercut any defense you mount of him with his tweets. Just look how the Comey firing went?

    • #43
  14. Guruforhire Inactive
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    Hypatia (View Comment):

    Gumby Mark (View Comment):

    Larry Koler (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):
    Yes, why not goad Trump into another ill thought through firing of a justice department official over what is now widely believed to be an investigation of his conduct. Nothing bad can come of that. Firing Comey lead to Muller and Trump actually being investigated. If he fires Muller I think his odds of being impeached sky rocket. If you are actually innocent shouldn’t you actually start acting like it?

    Stopping this conspiracy is the right thing to do. Let the chips fall where they may.

    Politics is about winning. We don’t like losers. We like winners. Firing Mueller right now is a loser.

    I agree that Trump cannot fire Mueller. He shouldn’t have to. If Trump’s party had his back, Mueller would be long gone. GOP Congress members shoukd be demanding, not suggesting, that Mueller be replaced by someone who is not Comey’s best friend. How can they not be doing this?

    They should be going to their committee meetings in tinfoil hats and ranting about random things doing random bad things as much within the rules as possible.

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  15. MichaelHenry Member
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    AG Sessions should appoint a new SPECIAL COUNSEL to investigate the collusion, corruption, leaks, and conspiracy involved in Special Counsel Mueller and his cadre of pro-Clinton hired guns. This avoids the political problems that would result from firing Mueller. Among the things to be investigated: Has Mueller discussed any of issues with Comey? When was the last time they talked, in person or on phone? Is Mueller or his lawyers involved in the felonious leaks coming out of his investigation? Who did Mueller do work for after his departure from FBI? Who are/were his clients? Did any of them donate to Clinton Foundation. Is Comey being investigated for leaks that he admits? Were these criminal acts? Is conversion of FBI property (Comey memos) to personal property illegal under federal statutes? New SPECIAL COUNSEL needs to subpoena all phone records, e-mails, and correspondence of any kind from Comey, Mueller, each of Mueller’s lawyers that he has hired.

     

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  16. Columbo Inactive
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    Gumby Mark (View Comment):

    Larry Koler (View Comment):

    Gumby Mark (View Comment):

    Larry Koler (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):
    Yes, why not goad Trump into another ill thought through firing of a justice department official over what is now widely believed to be an investigation of his conduct. Nothing bad can come of that. Firing Comey lead to Muller and Trump actually being investigated. If he fires Muller I think his odds of being impeached sky rocket. If you are actually innocent shouldn’t you actually start acting like it?

    Stopping this conspiracy is the right thing to do. Let the chips fall where they may.

    Politics is about winning. We don’t like losers. We like winners. Firing Mueller right now is a loser.

    It’s a comparison with that versus how much you lose with letting him stay. There are risks either way — do the right thing.

    My guess is the Trump risk equation looks like this:

    1. Fire Mueller, guarantee impeachment effort starts, half the GOP heads for the hills, legislative agenda completely halted.
    2. Don’t fire Mueller and gamble that Trump not indicted, nothing more than mild ancilliary damage and investigation wrapped up fairly quickly. “So you’re saying I still have a chance“.

    Remember Scooter …

    • #46
  17. Columbo Inactive
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    MichaelHenry (View Comment):
    AG Sessions should appoint a new SPECIAL COUNSEL to investigate the collusion, corruption, leaks, and conspiracy involved in Special Counsel Mueller and his cadre of pro-Clinton hired guns. This avoids the political problems that would result from firing Mueller. Among the things to be investigated: Has Mueller discussed any of issues with Comey? When was the last time they talked, in person or on phone? Is Mueller or his lawyers involved in the felonious leaks coming out of his investigation? Who did Mueller do work for after his departure from FBI? Who are/were his clients? Did any of them donate to Clinton Foundation. Is Comey being investigated for leaks that he admits? Were these criminal acts? Is conversion of FBI property (Comey memos) to personal property illegal under federal statutes? New SPECIAL COUNSEL needs to subpoena all phone records, e-mails, and correspondence of any kind from Comey, Mueller, each of Mueller’s lawyers that he has hired.

    ^THIS

    Welcome back Michael Henry!

    Henery the 8th I am, I am …..

    • #47
  18. Gumby Mark Coolidge
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    Valiuth (View Comment):

    Gumby Mark (View Comment):
    And it then turns out his FBI Director was leaking everything unfavorable to Trump to the press but not leaking that he’d told him he was not under investigation!

    What did Comey leak again? The only thing he leaked was the contents of his memos which he did after he was fired. That hardly counts as everything in fact it is barely anything. And only happened in response to Trump’s own incompetent firing of the guy. Maybe if Trump wouldn’t have tweeted at Comey on the way out and shown some class Comey he wouldn’t be in this mess. Trump is not the victim of any conspiracy he is a victim of his deep personal flaws.

    You’re missing the point.  Comey made sure to leak the damaging part of his memo, not his repeated assurances to the president that he was not under personal investigation, leaving it to the media to keep playing that up.  Why do you think so many liberals were startled by his testimony?  I agree with you that Trump has been his own worst enemy in handling this, which limits his options now, but that is different from whether we have objective evidence of collusion or obstruction.  We simply don’t, something Comey’s testimony reinforced.

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  19. Larry Koler Inactive
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    Gumby Mark (View Comment):
    My guess is the Trump risk equation looks like this:

    1. Fire Mueller, guarantee impeachment effort starts, half the GOP heads for the hills, legislative agenda completely halted.
    2. Don’t fire Mueller and gamble that Trump not indicted, nothing more than mild ancilliary damage and investigation wrapped up fairly quickly. “So you’re saying I still have a chance“.
    1. The GOP congress won’t start an impeachment process on this evidence.
    2. The cowardice exhibited by not firing Mueller will be seen as blood in the water. Trump can’t take this chance. And the idea that you actually consider it a good risk that it will wrap quickly is simply the worst kind of GOP thinking of the old and tired and incompetent kind we have seen for so many decades. It doesn’t happen quickly and it steadily gets worse and completely derails any Trump draining of the swamp.

    All I’m saying here is that Trump needs to drain this swamp first. Do it now.

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  20. Hypatia Member
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    Valiuth (View Comment):

    Hypatia (View Comment):

    Gumby Mark (View Comment):

    Larry Koler (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):
    Yes, why not goad Trump into another ill thought through firing of a justice department official over what is now widely believed to be an investigation of his conduct. Nothing bad can come of that. Firing Comey lead to Muller and Trump actually being investigated. If he fires Muller I think his odds of being impeached sky rocket. If you are actually innocent shouldn’t you actually start acting like it?

    Stopping this conspiracy is the right thing to do. Let the chips fall where they may.

    Politics is about winning. We don’t like losers. We like winners. Firing Mueller right now is a loser.

    I agree that Trump cannot fire Mueller. He shouldn’t have to. If Trump’s party had his back, Mueller would be long gone. GOP Congress members shoukd be demanding, not suggesting, that Mueller be replaced by someone who is not Comey’s best friend. How can they not be doing this?

    If Trump could be trusted to be innocent, maybe they would have his back more. If he could be Trusted to at least stick with one lie they could have his back more. You can’t back Trump because, one there is probably a good chance he is guilty, and two because he will undercut any defense you mount of him with his tweets. Just look how the Comey firing went?

    Guilty of what?  Of trying to publicize the fact that he’s not guilty?  Cuz that’s all we’ve heard so far.

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  21. Gumby Mark Coolidge
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    Columbo (View Comment):

    Gumby Mark (View Comment):

    Larry Koler (View Comment):

    Gumby Mark (View Comment):

    Larry Koler (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):
    Yes, why not goad Trump into another ill thought through firing of a justice department official over what is now widely believed to be an investigation of his conduct. Nothing bad can come of that. Firing Comey lead to Muller and Trump actually being investigated. If he fires Muller I think his odds of being impeached sky rocket. If you are actually innocent shouldn’t you actually start acting like it?

    Stopping this conspiracy is the right thing to do. Let the chips fall where they may.

    Politics is about winning. We don’t like losers. We like winners. Firing Mueller right now is a loser.

    It’s a comparison with that versus how much you lose with letting him stay. There are risks either way — do the right thing.

    My guess is the Trump risk equation looks like this:

    1. Fire Mueller, guarantee impeachment effort starts, half the GOP heads for the hills, legislative agenda completely halted.
    2. Don’t fire Mueller and gamble that Trump not indicted, nothing more than mild ancilliary damage and investigation wrapped up fairly quickly. “So you’re saying I still have a chance“.

    Remember Scooter …

    I do; that’s what I mean by ancilliary damage.  I also remember the firing of Archibald Cox.

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    Valiuth (View Comment):
    What did Comey leak again? The only thing he admitted to leaking leaked was the contents of his memos which he did after he was fired.

    FIFY.

    Valiuth (View Comment):
    We have no hard evidence that Trump is not the victim of any conspiracy; he may just be is a victim of his deep personal flaws.

    FIFY again.

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  23. Larry Koler Inactive
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    Valiuth (View Comment):

    Larry Koler (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):
    Yes, why not goad Trump into another ill thought through firing of a justice department official over what is now widely believed to be an investigation of his conduct. Nothing bad can come of that. Firing Comey lead to Muller and Trump actually being investigated. If he fires Muller I think his odds of being impeached sky rocket. If you are actually innocent shouldn’t you actually start acting like it?

    Stopping this conspiracy is the right thing to do. Let the chips fall where they may.

    Oh right, like this isn’t already the chips falling as they may already. You begin with the assumption of a conspiracy, and it will be conspiracy all the way down for you. If Trump does this and his administration goes up in flames of scandal and impeachment you will begin to claim this was the lefts plan all along to trick Trump into stepping on this very obvious land mine.

    You are going down the same old failed GOP approach — scared little rabbits.

    • #53
  24. Larry Koler Inactive
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    MichaelHenry (View Comment):
    AG Sessions should appoint a new SPECIAL COUNSEL to investigate the collusion, corruption, leaks, and conspiracy involved in Special Counsel Mueller and his cadre of pro-Clinton hired guns. This avoids the political problems that would result from firing Mueller. Among the things to be investigated: Has Mueller discussed any of issues with Comey? When was the last time they talked, in person or on phone? Is Mueller or his lawyers involved in the felonious leaks coming out of his investigation? Who did Mueller do work for after his departure from FBI? Who are/were his clients? Did any of them donate to Clinton Foundation. Is Comey being investigated for leaks that he admits? Were these criminal acts? Is conversion of FBI property (Comey memos) to personal property illegal under federal statutes? New SPECIAL COUNSEL needs to subpoena all phone records, e-mails, and correspondence of any kind from Comey, Mueller, each of Mueller’s lawyers that he has hired.

    This is the second best idea but a direct confrontation will be better. Trump can’t afford to be clever here — he needs to call their bluff.

    Leaking this obstruction investigation idea is a clear dare. Trump needs to stand up now — show your grit, Mr. President.

    • #54
  25. Gumby Mark Coolidge
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    Larry Koler (View Comment):

    Gumby Mark (View Comment):
    My guess is the Trump risk equation looks like this:

    1. Fire Mueller, guarantee impeachment effort starts, half the GOP heads for the hills, legislative agenda completely halted.
    2. Don’t fire Mueller and gamble that Trump not indicted, nothing more than mild ancilliary damage and investigation wrapped up fairly quickly. “So you’re saying I still have a chance“.
    1. The GOP congress won’t start an impeachment process on this evidence.
    2. The cowardice exhibited by not firing Mueller will be seen as blood in the water. Trump can’t take this chance. And the idea that you actually consider it a good risk that it will wrap quickly is simply the worst kind of GOP thinking of the old and tired and incompetent kind we have seen for so many decades. It doesn’t happen quickly and it steadily gets worse and completely derails any Trump draining of the swamp.

    All I’m saying here is that Trump needs to drain this swamp first. Do it now.

    I don’t think either is a good risk.  If I were in Congress I would be demanding the removal of Mueller, but I’m trying to describe not what I would like to happen but, as a practical matter what the options are, and they are not good.  The GOP Congress will not start impeachment but the maneuvering when the Dems start to do so is when the GOP runs for the hills.  Just a couple of days ago Ryan publicly endorsed Mueller.  Any Republican in a swing district is terrified this will take them down in 2018.

    And there are two parts to the problem on the GOP side.  The first is the lack of guts and the inarticulateness of GOP leaders, but the second is Trump himself.  Politics thrives on alliances and whether you feel someone has your back.  Trump’s erratic behavior leaves everyone uncertain what he will do next and whether there is yet another shoe to fall.  Few politicians will stick their necks out in that situation.  Just this morning in a tweet he seemed to forget that he bragged that he was going to fire Comey regardless of what Rosenstein recommended.  He’s wrong footed his Secretary of Defense, National Security Advisor and NSA (my guess is most of his Cabinet are keeping their heads down just like the GOP Congress) as well as his recent complaint about GOP “meanness” on the healthcare bill, which he had happily endorsed a few weeks ago.  And they see how Trump got played as a sucker by Comey and the media so there is an element of “he brought this on himself, let him get out of it”.

    I wish it were different because I’m convinced all this Russia stuff is a complete sham.

     

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  26. Mike LaRoche Inactive
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    But for sore-loser Hillaryites and NeverTrumpers, this witch hunt wouldn’t be happening.

    • #56
  27. Larry Koler Inactive
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    Gumby Mark (View Comment):
    I wish it were different because I’m convinced all this Russia stuff is a complete sham.

    So, you agree it should be shut down — but you’re afraid of the consequences. This is rabbit talk — sorry but it is. Trump needs to stand up and show us how to stare down the wolf. This is what we hired him for — he was specifically chosen because of the difficulty of  the task. Show us we were right to select you, Mr. Trump.

    • #57
  28. Larry Koler Inactive
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    Mike LaRoche (View Comment):
    But for sore-loser Hillaryites and NeverTrumpers, this witch hunt wouldn’t be happening.

    This is nothing so much as the swamp we have been talking about. It’s a perfect working out of the ability of the left to work against the country in the clear light of day and dare us to do anything about it.

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  29. Hang On Member
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    MichaelHenry (View Comment):
    AG Sessions should appoint a new SPECIAL COUNSEL to investigate the collusion, corruption, leaks, and conspiracy involved in Special Counsel Mueller and his cadre of pro-Clinton hired guns. This avoids the political problems that would result from firing Mueller. Among the things to be investigated: Has Mueller discussed any of issues with Comey? When was the last time they talked, in person or on phone? Is Mueller or his lawyers involved in the felonious leaks coming out of his investigation? Who did Mueller do work for after his departure from FBI? Who are/were his clients? Did any of them donate to Clinton Foundation. Is Comey being investigated for leaks that he admits? Were these criminal acts? Is conversion of FBI property (Comey memos) to personal property illegal under federal statutes? New SPECIAL COUNSEL needs to subpoena all phone records, e-mails, and correspondence of any kind from Comey, Mueller, each of Mueller’s lawyers that he has hired.

    This is the right move. Bring out the polygraphs.

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  30. Ian Mullican Inactive
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    Valiuth (View Comment):
    You can’t back Trump because, one there is probably a good chance he is guilty, and two because he will undercut any defense you mount of him with his tweets. Just look how the Comey firing went?

    Since when is there a good chance he’s guilty?

    Anyways and in a different direction, didn’t Rosenstein come out this morning to the press saying not to believe stories using sources that are “anonymous officials” when the country of the official isn’t even listed?  In other words, Trump isn’t actually being investigated for obstruction of justice?  Or did I get that wrong?

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