Flyover Country, Episode 68 – Stand By Your Man

 

Rebelling against the national Day without Women, Terry and Ryan ask one woman — Ricochet’s own Kate Braestrup — to work extra hard by engaging in today’s (well, Wednesday’s) podcast. So, we talk mostly about women and feminism, in addition to the usual assortment of whatever happens to come to mind.

If you enjoy listening to Kate, be sure to check out her books! And if you happened to miss last week’s podcast, A Ricochet Romance, give it a listen by following the link.
Kate’s books:

Here if You Need Me: A True Story

Anchor and Flares: A Memoir of Motherhood, Hope, and Service

Beginner’s Grace: Bringing Prayer to Life

Marriage and Other Acts of Charity: A Memoir

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  1. Johnnie Alum 13 Inactive
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    Come on people, give it a like and get it to the main feed!

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  2. Brian Wolf Inactive
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    I love all your shows thought I don’t get to listen to them all as you they go up and do get to them all.  Glad you keep making this Podcast…keep it up.

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  3. Ryan M(cPherson) Inactive
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    Brian Wolf (View Comment):
    I love all your shows thought I don’t get to listen to them all as you they go up and do get to them all. Glad you keep making this Podcast…keep it up.

    Thanks for listening, Brian!  We really appreciate it.

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  4. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Brian Wolf (View Comment):
    I love all your shows thought I don’t get to listen to them all as you they go up and do get to them all. Glad you keep making this Podcast…keep it up.

    Agreed. One thing I would like to ask is do men have an civilizing effect on women? It seems like women have a harder time getting along with women then men do getting along with other men.

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  5. Ryan M(cPherson) Inactive
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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    Brian Wolf (View Comment):
    I love all your shows thought I don’t get to listen to them all as you they go up and do get to them all. Glad you keep making this Podcast…keep it up.

    Agreed. One thing I would like to ask is do men have an civilizing effect on women? It seems like women have a harder time getting along with women then men do getting along with other men.

    oh, for sure.  We were kind of talking about feminism and women more than we were trying to discuss women vs. men.  My point along those lines was that feminism seemed to do a doubly harmful disservice by, first, trying to place women on equal footing with men in places where they are simply not on equal footing, but second, to remove those natural strengths that women possess by virtue of their femininity when they deny that there are meaningful differences between women and men.  That we also have a civilizing effect on them is obvious.  :)

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  6. Kate Braestrup Member
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    Ryan M(cPherson):Rebelling against the national Day without Women, Terry and Ryan ask one woman – Ricochet’s own Kate Braestrup – to work extra hard by engaging in today’s podcast. So, we talk mostly about women and feminism, in addition to the usual assortment of whatever happens to come to mind.

    If you enjoy listening to Kate, be sure to check out her books! And if you happened to miss last week’s podcast, A Ricochet Romance, give it a listen by following the link.

    Kate’s books:

    Here if You Need Me: A True Story

    Anchor and Flares: A Memoir of Motherhood, Hope, and Service

    Beginner’s Grace: Bringing Prayer to Life

    Marriage and Other Acts of Charity: A Memoir

     

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  7. Kate Braestrup Member
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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    Brian Wolf (View Comment):
    I love all your shows thought I don’t get to listen to them all as you they go up and do get to them all. Glad you keep making this Podcast…keep it up.

    Agreed. One thing I would like to ask is do men have an civilizing effect on women? It seems like women have a harder time getting along with women then men do getting along with other men.

    Men certainly have had a civilizing effect on me, Henry! But I spend nearly all of my time with men, one way and another…so to the extent that I am civilized, to whom can we give credit if not men?

    Did I sound kind of duck-like on this podcast? Quack….quackquack….quack….

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  8. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Kate Braestrup (View Comment):
    Did I sound kind of duck-like on this podcast? Quack….quackquack….quack….

    The sound was a bit off on your side. But it adds flavor. It’s like the white noise in Robert Johnson’s recordings.

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  9. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Sometimes the Member feed and the Main feed of Ricochet collide.

    I highly recommend this podcast about males and females relating to one another. I feel that is complementary to this podcast.

     

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  10. Kaladin Inactive
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    You did not sound like a duck Kate.  And I agree with Henry  the sound was a bit off on your side but nothing that would impair listening.  We’ll work on it a little the next time you join us.

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  11. Umbra Fractus Inactive
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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    Kate Braestrup (View Comment):
    Did I sound kind of duck-like on this podcast? Quack….quackquack….quack….

    The sound was a bit off on your side. But it adds flavor. It’s like the white noise in Robert Johnson’s recordings.

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  12. Kate Braestrup Member
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    It’s possible that when the sound is fixed, and the white noise is gone I’ll sound MORE like a duck! But thanks, guys!

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  13. DubyaC Inactive
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    I listened to this podcast for the first time yesterday – it was very interesting and lively conversation. I recommend it.

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  14. Ryan M(cPherson) Inactive
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    DubyaC (View Comment):
    I listened to this podcast for the first time yesterday – it was very interesting and lively conversation. I recommend it.

    Thank you for listening!

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  15. RightAngles Member
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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment)

    Agreed. One thing I would like to ask is do men have an civilizing effect on women? It seems like women have a harder time getting along with women then men do getting along with other men.

    I think it’s women who have a civilizing effect on men, but it sure is true that women can be pretty nasty to each other. This stuff about solidarity among women? Hah. Horsepucky. And Kate doesn’t sound like a duck.

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  16. Julie Snapp Coolidge
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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    Brian Wolf (View Comment):
    I love all your shows thought I don’t get to listen to them all as you they go up and do get to them all. Glad you keep making this Podcast…keep it up.

    Agreed. One thing I would like to ask is do men have an civilizing effect on women? It seems like women have a harder time getting along with women then men do getting along with other men.

    I’m a little late to this party, but I think so. You don’t find too many settled down, happily married women out partying till all hours and I think most women, myself included, feel more confident and less jealous when they’re in a stable relationship where they don’t feel like they have to question their man’s loyalty.

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  17. Julie Snapp Coolidge
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    Again, late to this party, but I immensely enjoyed the podcast. Kate, I really wish I could hear more of your stories. I’m definitely planning to pick up your books!

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  18. Tom Meyer, Ed. Member
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    8′ 32″ : Ryan’s first unprovoked dig against Facebook.

    I think that’s earlier than usual. ;)

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  19. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Tom Meyer, Ed. (View Comment):
    Tom Meyer, Ed.

    8′ 32″ : Ryan’s first unprovoked dig against Facebook.

    I think that’s earlier than usual. ?

    Too late if you ask me:)

    @juliesnapp

    Her stories are great and her voice is pretty but the stories are sad.

     

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  20. Julie Snapp Coolidge
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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    Tom Meyer, Ed. (View Comment):
    Tom Meyer, Ed.

    8′ 32″ : Ryan’s first unprovoked dig against Facebook.

    I think that’s earlier than usual. ?

    Too late if you ask me:)

    @juliesnapp

    Her stories are great and her voice is pretty but the stories are sad.

    What matters most to me is that a story is good and I know that Kate’s stories I’ve heard thus far have always been good. :)

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  21. Ryan M(cPherson) Inactive
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    Julie Snapp (View Comment):

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    Tom Meyer, Ed. (View Comment):
    Tom Meyer, Ed.

    8′ 32″ : Ryan’s first unprovoked dig against Facebook.

    I think that’s earlier than usual. ?

    Too late if you ask me:)

    @juliesnapp

    Her stories are great and her voice is pretty but the stories are sad.

    What matters most to me is that a story is good and I know that Kate’s stories I’ve heard thus far have always been good. ?

    I bought “Anchor and Flares” for my wife, and she is enjoying it.  My suspicion, though, is that any of Kate’s books would be well worth the purchase price.

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  22. Ryan M(cPherson) Inactive
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    Tom Meyer, Ed. (View Comment):
    8′ 32″ : Ryan’s first unprovoked dig against Facebook.

    I think that’s earlier than usual. ?

    Unprovoked?!  Well, in fairness, my theories about social media causing the downfall of civilization are not confined to facebook, but it is the easiest example.  That it comes up in every podcast is only a testament to how absolutely true it is…  right?

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  23. Tom Meyer, Ed. Member
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    Ryan M(cPherson) (View Comment):

    Unprovoked?! Well, in fairness, my theories about social media causing the downfall of civilization are not confined to facebook…

    No, but they’re somewhat contradicted by your participation in the PIT. ;)

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  24. Ryan M(cPherson) Inactive
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    Tom Meyer, Ed. (View Comment):

    Ryan M(cPherson) (View Comment):

    Unprovoked?! Well, in fairness, my theories about social media causing the downfall of civilization are not confined to facebook…

    No, but they’re somewhat contradicted by your participation in the PIT. ?

    oh, but only somewhat.  Ricochet is, in some sense, social media.

    But we benefit from self-selection, right?  Actually, I think Ricochet provides it’s share of examples of the harm that social media does.  Even though it is a website where – supposedly – we have people who are committed to the discussion of (conservative) ideas, you don’t have to look all that far to find some of the tribalism (sorry for overusing the term!) that facebook is known for.

    On that point (and yes, I’m totally taking your joke and making it into a serious discussion!), you can also see how Ricochet has suffered from an almost subconscious push to conform to the sort of facebook model, which allows people to personalize and create their own spaces.  If we’ve got a common area where all must mingle, we’re a bit more like a community.  But with the advent of personal feeds, groups and private groups, etc… we lose a bit of that, and there are negative consequences.  Yes, people will still form sub-cultures (e.g. the pit) with the old setup, but there is still greater accountability and more forced interaction.  The success of Ricochet, then, is where it is least like facebook.

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  25. Julie Snapp Coolidge
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    I don’t think I will ever understand you and Terry’s hatred for Facebook. I post a lot of cat-related things on his wall. He gripes at me for “making [him] look like a crazy cat person”.

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  26. Ryan M(cPherson) Inactive
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    Julie Snapp (View Comment):
    I don’t think I will ever understand you and Terry’s hatred for Facebook. I post a lot of cat-related things on his wall. He gripes at me for “making [him] look like a crazy cat person”.

    Yet you persist in making him look like a crazy cat person.

    You really do live to torment, don’t you?  :)

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  27. Julie Snapp Coolidge
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    Ryan M(cPherson) (View Comment):

    Julie Snapp (View Comment):
    I don’t think I will ever understand you and Terry’s hatred for Facebook. I post a lot of cat-related things on his wall. He gripes at me for “making [him] look like a crazy cat person”.

    Yet you persist in making him look like a crazy cat person.

    You really do live to torment, don’t you? ?

    That’s not even the half of it!

    You should also get a Facebook so I can post cat things on your wall!

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  28. Ryan M(cPherson) Inactive
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    Julie Snapp (View Comment):

    Ryan M(cPherson) (View Comment):

    Julie Snapp (View Comment):
    I don’t think I will ever understand you and Terry’s hatred for Facebook. I post a lot of cat-related things on his wall. He gripes at me for “making [him] look like a crazy cat person”.

    Yet you persist in making him look like a crazy cat person.

    You really do live to torment, don’t you? ?

    That’s not even the half of it!

    You should also get a Facebook so I can post cat things on your wall!

    While it is very tempting…  I’m also one of those people who would inevitably reply to something someone says on facebook, and while I would almost certainly be right, it would also be read by any liberal friends/coworkers I’ve got, and life would get just that much more difficult.  As it stands, if anyone wants to discuss politics with me, they have to do it in person, and that’s a much safer bet.

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