The Mark Steyn Show Is No More

 

I just came across a bit of disappointing news this evening via SteynOnline: The Mark Steyn Show, which had been broadcast on CRTV since its inception on December 21, 2016, has been cancelled. Mark Steyn writes:

In less congenial telly news, today was perhaps the most sobering and humbling day since this poor old Canadian came to the United States many years ago. I had only been doing the show for a little over a month, and had hoped to be doing it for a long time to come. There is always a story between the lines, and everyone of course is free to speculate. I hope to be able to say more in the days ahead.

That’s too damn bad. It was an excellent show and I hope he finds another platform for it soon. In fact, it was my only reason for opening up a subscription to CRTV in the first place. Needless to say, I will not be renewing.

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  1. Aaron Miller Inactive
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    She (View Comment):
    Here are the court documents.

    So Steyn paid for the studio himself, yet CRTV owns it? Steyn is stuck with the debt, but CRTV can ban him from the property he’s paying for?

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  2. RightAngles Member
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    Aaron Miller (View Comment):

    She (View Comment):
    Here are the court documents.

    So Steyn paid for the studio himself, yet CRTV owns it? Steyn is stuck with the debt, but CRTV can ban him from the property he’s paying for?

    On top of that, he’ll have some hefty legal bills at the end of this.

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  3. Jamie Lockett Member
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    Aaron Miller (View Comment):

    She (View Comment):
    Here are the court documents.

    So Steyn paid for the studio himself, yet CRTV owns it? Steyn is stuck with the debt, but CRTV can ban him from the property he’s paying for?

    According to the document the studio was built at CRTVs expense.

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  4. AQ Member
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    I just canceled.   Whatever else is going on at CRTV, they have the nicest customer service representative on the planet.

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  5. Aaron Miller Inactive
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    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Aaron Miller (View Comment):

    She (View Comment):
    Here are the court documents.

    So Steyn paid for the studio himself, yet CRTV owns it? Steyn is stuck with the debt, but CRTV can ban him from the property he’s paying for?

    According to the document the studio was built at CRTVs expense.

    I misread it. Thanks.

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  6. Mike LaRoche Inactive
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    RightAngles (View Comment):

    drlorentz (View Comment):
    Mark Steyn refers back to Mr. LaRoche’s post at his website:

    Re the end of our short-lived television venture, Mike LaRoche writes over at Ricochet:

    It was an excellent show and I hope he finds another platform for it soon. In fact, it was my only reason for opening up a subscription to CRTV in the first place. Needless to say, I will not be renewing.

    Congratulations, Mike!

    Thanks, Righty!

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  7. Richard Easton Coolidge
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    Scott R (View Comment):
    Steyn’s the wittiest writer and speaker in the conservative movement, and his America Alone (2006) reads like prophecy today.

    However, his TV show was not his best forum. First, it was necessarily scripted, which is not Steyn’s forte — too many stilted moments. Second, Steyn is the world’s greatest interviewee, but nothing special as an interviewer. Third, Steyn overestimated the overlap in the Venn diagram of those who share both an interest in Steynian conservative wit and Steynian musical passions.

    Steyn will be back, but he needs to keep his twin passions segregated so his consumers are free to choose between the two.

    Even someone as talented as Steyn needs time to adjust to a new medium.  I suspect with another six months, he would have improved greatly.

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  8. captainpower Inactive
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    Gojira's Hejira (View Comment):
    I have zero time to sit in front of a TV. From what I’ve seen, nothing he has put on air couldn’t be a podcast.

    I’ve been using huffduffer to convert video to mp3 podcast for a while now and I love it.

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  9. dtw56 Inactive
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    Gojira's Hejira (View Comment):
    I was clearly led to believe that Steyn was supposed to be a major part of Ricochet (whatever “in which he is participating” means) . This is at least 50% of the reason I joined in the first place. I see a trend developing.

    But I am happy. I have zero time to sit in front of a TV. From what I’ve seen, nothing he has put on air couldn’t be a podcast. I can get other things done with MP3s and headphones. So I hope he is pulled back into this direction or at least simulposts to audio.

    I remember that; wasn’t he on the first few “ricochet” podcasts? What happened?

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  10. Jeff Smith Inactive
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    @dtw5 I remember that; wasn’t he on the first few “ricochet” podcasts? What happened?

    We could certainly use him. The preponderance of Never Trumpets on the podcasts is harshing my mellow.  I can rarely finish listening…

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  11. Richard O'Shea Coolidge
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    Jeff Smith (View Comment):
    @dtw5 I remember that; wasn’t he on the first few “ricochet” podcasts? What happened?

    We could certainly use him. The preponderance of Never Trumpets on the podcasts is harshing my mellow. I can rarely finish listening…

    I joined Ricochet when the “Long – Goldberg – Steyn” Podcast went behind the paywall.  Must have 2011?

    I think there was one more podcast after that.

    No regrets, by the way…..

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  12. ctlaw Coolidge
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    Two data points (apologies if already addressed):

    1. On 2/24, Steyn posted this:

    We regret that certain subscribers have been having difficulty accessing the show at CRTV in recent days. CRTV Customer Support say:

    Due to a technical issue, there was a delay in the post of the episodes. We are trying our hardest to get them posted before the end of the week.

    We certainly hope they will honor that commitment to their customers, but the issue is outside our control. Please contact CRTV Customer Support here.

    2. On 2/27, Steyn’s hand was bandaged.

    Given the lawsuit timing, was there really a technical issue? If that was false, does CRTV have liability to Steyn or subscribers? Does the falsity (if so) create a fraud exception to any subscriber agreement, opening CRTV up to incidental and consequential damages (such as time lost repeatedly going back to the site in expectation of the missing programs being there)? Paging @salvatorepadula

    Also, as the problems well predated the injury, he apparently did not get canned for hitting somebody.

     

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  13. Lily Bart Inactive
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    profdlp (View Comment):
    Mark is the only guest host on Rush who doesn’t cause me to immediately switch off the radio. I’ve been mulling a CRTV subscription but guess I’ll save my money.

    I like Mark as a guest host, but Walter Williams will always be my favorite.

     

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  14. Kay of MT Inactive
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    ctlaw (View Comment):
    Also, as the problems well predated the injury, he apparently did not get canned for hitting somebody.

    Maybe he tried to stop TPTB from tearing up his contract and his thumb got in the way.

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  15. Z in MT Member
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    Read the denial of TRO request. Not surprise the justification for the TRO is pretty weak.

    Curiouser and curiouser.

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  16. Larry Koler Inactive
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    ctlaw (View Comment):
    Two data points (apologies if already addressed):

    1. On 2/24, Steyn posted this:

    We regret that certain subscribers have been having difficulty accessing the show at CRTV in recent days. CRTV Customer Support say:

    Due to a technical issue, there was a delay in the post of the episodes. We are trying our hardest to get them posted before the end of the week.

    We certainly hope they will honor that commitment to their customers, but the issue is outside our control. Please contact CRTV Customer Support here.

    2. On 2/27, Steyn’s hand was bandaged.

    Given the lawsuit timing, was there really a technical issue? If that was false, does CRTV have liability to Steyn or subscribers? Does the falsity (if so) create a fraud exception to any subscriber agreement, opening CRTV up to incidental and consequential damages (such as time lost repeatedly going back to the site in expectation of the missing programs being there)? Paging @salvatorepadula

    Also, as the problems well predated the injury, he apparently did not get canned for hitting somebody.

    Thanks.

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  17. profdlp Inactive
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    Lily Bart (View Comment):

    profdlp (View Comment):
    Mark is the only guest host on Rush who doesn’t cause me to immediately switch off the radio. I’ve been mulling a CRTV subscription but guess I’ll save my money.

    I like Mark as a guest host, but Walter Williams will always be my favorite.

    He is awesome, too, and I would never switch him off.  He hasn’t been on lately though, unless I just missed it.

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  18. Miffed White Male Member
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    ctlaw (View Comment):
    Also, as the problems well predated the injury, he apparently did not get canned for hitting somebody.

    Oooh, maybe Mark Steyn can join the cast of The Grand Tour (AKA Top Gear).

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  19. Kozak Member
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    JavaMan (View Comment):
    I dunno why at this stage of the game anybody would set up a TV show on a cable network. There are just too many online options such as YouTube, Facebook Live etc. as well as alternative revenue streams like Patreon and such.

    It was an online service. Purely streaming.

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  20. Rodin Member
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    Reading the court’s denial decision there aren’t a lot of facts available about the contract dispute. The court makes little reference to the content of the term sheet.

    A “binding term sheet” is intended to establish the existence of a contract subject to further negotiation and definitization. That is probably where the trouble started. There was a hitch in the negotiations and CRTV decided to cut bait on the contract rather than continuing negotiating the defined terms.

    CRTV benefited greatly from having Mark under contract to promote their product and provide content thus the execution of a term sheet with work occurring before a fully negotiated contract document was completed. The basic outline of the agreement would have been in the term sheet — and certainly the court’s statement of facts suggest that they were — but there was enough left unsettled for there to be disagreement when they were working on some of the terms.

    It will be interesting to know what term definitization created the dispute and why CRTV would prefer to unilaterally cancel the contract rather than continue the negotiations.

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  21. ctlaw Coolidge
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    Rodin (View Comment):
    Reading the court’s denial decision there aren’t a lot of facts available about the contract dispute. The court makes little reference to the content of the term sheet.

    The court noted that CRTV had requested arbitration prior to the MSE/Steyn complaint. Arbitration may have been for the purpose of coming up with specific terms.

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  22. Aaron Miller Inactive
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    Thanks for the explanation.

    Is it not unusual to proceed with such serious expenditures (the Steyn Show set and staff) and promotions before a definitive contract is established?

    It’s difficult for me to imagine contractual demands which could not have been roughly foreseen at the time the show was green-lit. Does the possibility seem strange to y’all practiced lawyers?

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  23. Gojira's Hejira Member
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    captainpower (View Comment):

     

    I’ve been using huffduffer to convert video to mp3 podcast for a while now and I love it.

    Awesome. thank you.  I’ll try it.  Clipconverter has been killing me.  It’s so malware-scary, until it died last month, I kept an old XP machine around that did nothing but clipconverter, Facebook and some peer-to-peers.

    The “dirty” computer.

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  24. Chris Campion Coolidge
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    Gojira's Hejira (View Comment):

    captainpower (View Comment):

    I’ve been using huffduffer to convert video to mp3 podcast for a while now and I love it.

    Awesome. thank you. I’ll try it. Clipconverter has been killing me. It’s so malware-scary, until it died last month, I kept an old XP machine around that did nothing but clipconverter, Facebook and some peer-to-peers.

    The “dirty” computer.

    Isn’t “huffduff” a name for an old radar-like direction finder?

    Apparently yes.

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  25. ibn Abu Member
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    CRTV did the honorable thing and refunded my subscription fee in full.

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  26. dtw56 Inactive
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    Jeff Smith (View Comment):
    @dtw5 I remember that; wasn’t he on the first few “ricochet” podcasts? What happened?

    We could certainly use him. The preponderance of Never Trumpets on the podcasts is harshing my mellow. I can rarely finish listening…

    That’s for sure!

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  27. captainpower Inactive
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    Chris Campion (View Comment):
    Isn’t “huffduff” a name for an old radar-like direction finder?

    Apparently yes.

    yup.

    The word Huffduffer derives from a technology called Huff-Duff that was used to triangulate the position of radio transmissions. Huffduffing on the web is a way of pin-pointing interesting MP3 files.

    via https://huffduffer.com/about

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  28. captainpower Inactive
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    Jeff Smith (View Comment):
    The preponderance of Never Trumpets on the podcasts is harshing my mellow. I can rarely finish listening…

    For me it’s not even related to President Trump.

    I haven’t listened in a while, but I did start to get fed up with not having anyone on the other side of the debate most of the time.

    Discussions where only one side is represented are no good.

    I’ve heard it on other podcasts too (e.g. Cato) so it’s not unique to Ricochet, but it’s agonizing to have an objection to a point that goes unmade or a clarifying question that goes unasked merely because the panel is all in agreement and not trying very hard to persuade anyone that isn’t already on board.

    e.g.

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  29. Rodin Member
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    Aaron Miller (View Comment):
    Is it not unusual to proceed with such serious expenditures (the Steyn Show set and staff) and promotions before a definitive contract is established?

    No, but there are clearly risks involved (as this dispute illustrates).

    It’s difficult for me to imagine contractual demands which could not have been roughly foreseen at the time the show was green-lit. Does the possibility seem strange to y’all practiced lawyers?

    It will be more clear once (or if) we hear the specifics of the dispute. With that information it may make sense or seem incredibly stupid. It is amazing how new project exuberance can overcome sensible caution.

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  30. Lily Bart Inactive
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    profdlp (View Comment):

    Lily Bart (View Comment):

    profdlp (View Comment):
    Mark is the only guest host on Rush who doesn’t cause me to immediately switch off the radio. I’ve been mulling a CRTV subscription but guess I’ll save my money.

    I like Mark as a guest host, but Walter Williams will always be my favorite.

    He is awesome, too, and I would never switch him off. He hasn’t been on lately though, unless I just missed it.

    He’s probably retired.

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