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Keep up the good work, Progressives!
I’ve been watching the Women’s March television coverage this morning with equal parts amusement, irritation, and confusion. I find myself thinking that the rioters of yesterday and this sea of pink “Pussyhats” today are doing more for the Conservative cause than any amount of campaigning ever could.
I personally know (and like) at least a dozen women at the march in Washington and at least twice that many at the march in Indianapolis, and I’ve had many conversations about why they’re attending these marches. The main reason given is that they’re “scared” of Trump, his policies, and his presidency. Many of them seem to believe that we’re only days away from the forced childbearing of “The Handmaid’s Tale”. The actual cause for which these women are marching is amorphous…abortion (or, as Progressives nowadays like to term it, “reproductive rights”), LGBTQ rights, immigrant rights, BLM, etc. Basically, they seem to want to send the President and all of us cretins in the red states the message that we’re on the wrong side of history and that we’ll have to peel their abortion implements from their cold, dead hands
It would seem that the Progressive Left continues to misunderstand what happened on November 8th. We The People didn’t elect President Trump because we’re enamored of him personally; we voted against the constant finger-pointing, haranguing, and truly oppressive political correctness that has been ascendant in our public life since the mid-90s. We voted for the Constitution and a renewed observation of the Enumerated Powers. We voted to return to American Exceptionalism. Personally, I hope the Left continues their histrionics and shenanigans, reminding the rest of America why we voted the way we did.
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I often wonder what Monica Lewinski would have said, in a quiet moment, off the record, about the power of Bill Clinton?
If you actually mean this in the legal sense of the word — and by that I mean that an actual crime has been committed that is worthy of prosecution if a man doesn’t make a formal proposal of physical engagement, elicit a firm “yes” before proceeding then continuously check in to ensure that the woman actually means it — then on this point, I could not disagree with you more.
If we are going to stretch the definition of “coercion” beyond any actual threats expressed or implied by a man to now include any perceived threats by any woman, including any pre-formed notion she might have that any man is a potential threat simply due to the imbalance of physical power between them then clearly, we should skip over the formalities of charging anyone and just lock all men up now for the potential danger they pose to us all.
Also, by your loose definition, two lonely strangers who were disinclined to talk much but just lonely enough and barely attracted to each other to fumble their way through a one-night stand would both be guilty of assault come morning.
When will we see you marching to protest the vile things Madonna and Ashley Judd had to say. When are you protesting the vile language printed on clothing worn by children at the march. Are you aware of the organizations that partnered with the march organizers? Do you support those organizations?
Please don’t conflate “letting”, consenting with coercion (in any of its forms). You are mischaracterizing his words to prove your point. You are projecting your own interpretation of the world onto his words. No one has to even whisper the word Yes to indicate consent. Actions often speak much louder than words. A truer indication of lack of consent is spelled N-o.
Do you really believe sexual assault has only recently been outlawed? Do you really see every man as a likely rapist? Where do you come up with the idea that Trump is a proponent of sexual assault? How can we take you at your word when your words are so detached from reality?
Some might describe the bulk of Ricochetti as Conservative Seminar Commenters.
Does it matter if Vita Brevis appears in our midst with differing views?
While our view points may differ, we can still converse and wrestle with our differences. Our dialogue is pretty sturdy and a disingenuous liberal seminar commenter wouldn’t bother to stick around for much of that.
We have at least one highly valued RICO member who entered our community with publicly avowed liberal view points. We have been able to have valuable conversations.
I’m sure there are other Ricochetti who are more quiet and simply observe.
Five women who would not have been invited to the “women’s march” over the weekend:
All women’s rights pioneers and all adamantly against abortion. They all described abortion as what it really is – murder.
They ARE Jacobins. Don’t doubt for a second that if they gained enough power they wouldn’t put your head in a basket. For Great Justice.
Unfortunately, there are too many people who are miffed that they missed out on the 60s and are now elated to pretend they’ve gone back in time and can now participate. *sigh*
@vitabrevis , I used to be a flaming left-winger. I left the Left when it descended into silliness and anti-intellectualism. You’re scared? Wait, I thought you were “fierce.” Which is it, feminists? Is it “I am woman, hear me roar”? or “”OH OH poor little me, I’m just a mere woman and I’m so scared”? The intellectual inconsistencies not only from feminists but from every leftist issue are ridiculous. I’d like to know where you all got half the weird ideas you have about Trump. I mean where do you get your news?? Facebook? Or maybe you’re one of MSNBC’s six viewers. Stop swallowing every piece of garbage they’re feeding you and look at reality. (And you tell US to get other points of view?)
You took my comment out of context. I simply wanted to know whether it is considered “engaging in bad faith” (a CoC violation) to question the motives of someone who I strongly suspect does not share the political philosophy of this conservative community. Besides, the RICO member you mentioned publicly avowed his/her liberal views, so good faith is not as much of an issue in that case. In the present case, no such avowal has been made. I don’t seek to run Vita Brevis out, but I will question his/her political motives. Since I have seen the CoC enforced in ways that did not seem totally fair to me in the past, I simply wanted a ruling on this case.
I don’t think we require liberals to declare their allegiance. Conservative critics have also used liberal tactics when criticizing Trump, so I wouldn’t make any be too sure about it. If she continues to post it’ll be clear enough eventually.
@vitabrevis
When was Trump a “proponent of sexual assault”?
Or were you referring to that actual rapist William Jefferson Clinton?
Paula Jones, Juanita Broderick, Kathleen Willey, Eileen Wellstone, Carolyn Moffet, Elizabeth Ward Gracen, Becky Brown, Helen Dowdy, and Cristy Zercher
I assumed that was a reference to the infamous tape where Trump talks of being so enamored of beautiful women that he “just starts kissing them” and that “they’ll let you do anything”, even “grab ’em by the pussy” if you’re famous.
I would most certainly agree that any kind of “forcible touching”, could rightfully be construed as assault and if it were done in the place mentioned above, sexual assault.
But putting aside the point that’s already been made here — that he doesn’t say “I can do anything because I’m famous” but instead marvels over the willingness of some women to “let you do anything if you’re famous” (which hardly rings false to me, having seen plenty of evidence of such) — this ludicrous accusation that the recording proves Trump to be “a proponent of sexual assault” is exactly the reason why women like me can listen to that recording, cringe at the crassness of it . . . then still turn to the women screaming loudest about it and say “so?”
Show me any evidence that an actual crime has been committed and I’ll be on board to see that a full investigation takes place — I don’t care what party or what candidate it is.
But as EJHill’s piece points out, many of us are fed up and finished enabling this stupid game where the press serves as adoring lackeys and water-carriers for the Left and only remembers what their job actually is when they’re covering someone on the Right.
And don’t forget Gennifer Flowers, though she was willing. She writes that they once had sex in a powder room at the Governor’s Mansion during an official event when there were hundreds of people, including his wife, on the other side of the door. It is mind-boggling to me that the left will rise up in anger over words if it’s a Republican, but look the other way at a Democrat’s ACTIONS.
I continually find myself amazed at the many, many women who talk about the (admittedly) disgusting comments Trump made about groping women, but then proceed to completely ignore not only President Clinton’s predatory behavior toward many, many women, but also Hillary’s behavior with regard to his debauchery. She not only lied about his peccadilloes, but went on to publicly excoriate the women who accused him of assault, harassment, and outright rape. She was involved firsthand in smearing, libeling, and threatening numerous women, doing her best to ruin them publicly and privately. She has the gall to call herself a “feminist” and a champion of women, but when it really counted, showed herself to be anything but.
Take a lesson in reality from this, @vitabrevis. I left the Left by seeing them for what they really are. I highly recommend it. I went to high school with Hillary Rodham, and if you think she cares about women, think again. If you think anyone on the left cares about women, think again.
I understand.
Are you saying that Vita Brevis was posing as a conservative thinker, just because she joined?
I didn’t think there is a litmus test for joining Ricochet, so even is she is a liberal seminar commenter, unless she violates CoC, that seems not an important detail.
I don’t want to quibble and I understand your point.
No harm no foul as far as I’m concerned.
Part of the reason I was #NeverHillary.
One of her biggest mistakes, as far as I’m concerned, besides all the rest of her mistakes, was sticking up for WJC when he debauched the White House as the boss of a naive young woman.
Text book case.
Here’s what always bothered me about the Access Hollywood tape. To elucidate this point before I make it, I’d like to pose one question to the gentlemen and one to the ladies.
Ladies, have you ever been kissed by a man without first giving him verbal consent? Was this ever okay?
Gentlemen, have you ever kissed a lady without first asking for and receiving verbal consent? If so, did you feel this was okay?
This is my favorite scene from that film:
If a man asked for permission before kissing me, that would be a beta male and he’d never see me again. Pooey. The left loves to take all the fun out of life. We do not want you to ask permission at every step! GAH! Way to kill the moment. If we don’t want it, you’ll know. For pete’s sake.
I love to steal kisses.
And we love it when you do.
If you want to know what women fantasize about, you should read a good romance novel. Consent, in these stories is, for the most part fuzzy. The trope is, that a lady is supposed to keep her virtue but deep down the hero stirs her hidden desires. So on the surface she is all “no sir you mustn’t” but in her body is saying, yes you must. It’s like the song Baby it’s cold outside. It’s the perfect example of this dance, and the left wants ruin romance and seduction.
Women do like a guy in uniform.
The only time I ever asked for permission was in China. That was because I didn’t understand the language or culture very well. In America, it is okay if she lets you.
The word let means permit, allow, tolerate. Donald Trump admitted to being arrogant and aggressive, not being a rapist or an advocate of sexual assault. The folks understood that and shrugged their shoulders in October, just as most of us did.