Trump 2016: Less of a Jerk in Person than you Would Think

 

So I had a little chat with Donald last night. In front of a few thousand people I asked him a question.

I was sitting about 25 feet from him so I got to study him for 20 minutes of talking and 10 minutes of questions. He came for the fund raiser which did not benefit his finances but rather Nevada republicans. He is a dynamic public speaker and is very much a politician. He spoke with a small cheat sheet but he is far faster on his feet mentally than I expected. The arrogance and bluster were apparent but also what was apparent to me is that he’s less of a narcissist than I thought. He took the time to thank a lot of different groups and also praised Reince Preibus at one point which was interesting.

I highly doubt now he’s a stalking horse and I expect him to play this out til Election Day. Hillary won’t do well debating him regardless of how many smart drugs she takes.

He is very good at identifying problems that the audience identifies with and very short on actual solutions beyond saying he can do better. He acknowledged his gaffes but also attacked the media for preordained narratives.

He took about 10 questions , all unscripted, and deftly deflected a couple kooks asking about Bilderbergs and what not. Quicker than I expected he studies a question and has a response with a talking point even if it’s not a direct answer. He’s been coached well recently and it shows.

Well I stood up and asked him about health care. He sort of answered. I’d link the video but I have no clue how to get a video from my phone to here. I almost don’t want to know how such technology works.

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  1. blank generation member Inactive
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    Geoff:

    DocJay:

    Geoff:

    Geoff:

    DocJay:


    Geoff:And @docjay, I would never want to fight you. Now, although im getting older, we’d could go see Sepultura (touring again next year supposedly) and get in the pit.

    I saw Jane’s addiction in LA in the late 80’s Doing their first big album. Pits are fun.

    Here’s my neck. My head banging days took it’s toll. Ok maybe a ski accident or two

    image

    Holy —– I didn’t mean to like that, dude. Thank god you can feel your toes.

    That is RAD you saw Janes.. Where did you see them? The Palace?

    Fake discs helped my Neuro issues and I’ve been back in the gym lifting and also playing some hoops although haven’t played more competitive stuff since I’m an under the basket thug and don’t want to take an elbow.

    Palace. Summer 89. I was a beach bum in Pacific Beach my very last free summer ever. A friend grabbed me. Wasn’t familiar except from him. I didn’t do the LA scene much. Anyway I was nice and toasty.

    I’m a much bigger Social D fan and freaking dig Mike Ness.

    Damn it. Now Im off to find my old Tour Pics with Me, Ness, and Henry Rollins at Punk Rock Bowling.

    I am so not worthy.  If there a Suicidal Tendencies connection I will really be pissed.

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  2. Simon Templar Member
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    DudeJay, I finally work my way back into the sandbox just to find out that you made it all the way to the Show.  You’re killing me man.

    What are the (Vegas/Reno) odds for a Trump win?  I might want to put some $ on him.

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  3. Valiuth Member
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    So he is personable? I hear the same about Bill Clinton too.

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  4. Pencilvania Inactive
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    Good post, Doc – and it seems Nigel Farage would agree with you now that he’s met Trump –

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3761715/NIGEL-FARAGE-Trump-warm-man-gave-bounce-ll-new-Ronald-Reagan.html

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  5. Dave Carter Podcaster
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    Thanks for this, Doc.  It’s helpful to hear a first-person assessment from someone I trust infinitely.

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  6. DrewInWisconsin Member
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    I’m not surprised by Doc’s report. Both candidates are being run through a pro-Democrat media filter. They are making Trump into “literally Hitler” and trying to turn Hillary into a saint. Of course, it’s far easier to destroy Trump than it is to make Hillary look even remotely palatable.

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  7. Man With the Axe Inactive
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    DocJay:

    My hope is that he beats Hillary and then gets some competent people around him and a fellow by his side saying ,”thou art mortal” every 20 minutes or so.

    I’m nevertrump, that is to say, I won’t vote for him. But if he wins, I also hope that he surrounds himself with good, smart people and listens to them. I’ll be hoping every day that I was wrong and he turns out to be a decent president.

    If he had been “last three weeks Trump” from the beginning of his campaign instead of the Trump we actually did get all those months, with the bragging, insulting, mugging, conspiracy theorizing, indefensible comments, etc., I’d vote for him without any qualms. As it is, it’s too hard to forget all that and to believe that what we are seeing lately is the real Trump. But I hope it is.

    Also, I’d like to hear some solutions beyond, “I will fix it.”

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  8. Man With the Axe Inactive
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    DocJay:Oh I was quoting some comedy about Caeser with the thou art mortal.

    That bit was in the movie, “Patton.” General Patton liked the idea, and, presumably, knew it should apply to himself as well.

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  9. Boss Mongo Member
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    DrewInWisconsin: Of course, it’s far easier to destroy Trump than it is to make Hillary look even remotely palatable human.

    FIFY.

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  10. Daphnesdad Member
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    Richard Fulmer:Doc Jay

    So, I’m imagining lying on a gurney in OR, waiting to have brain surgery and seeing my surgeon walking in with glowing horns on his head…

    Ditto.

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  11. Owen Findy Inactive
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    The Scarecrow:

    Geoff: cuntsrpunch

    I don’t know much about boxing, but I’m on tenterhooks to learn the etymology of this word.

    Probably Siri.

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  12. Joan of Ark La Tex Inactive
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    A friend of ours who had worked with him also said the same thing. Trump is a nice guy with a good heart in real life. But he can get very combative when he is fighting especially publicly.

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  13. Boss Mongo Member
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    Geoff: Ha! That’s great you suggested, you know since my Dad is ROmanian, its an Eastern European tradition to force Judo on your kid. I did for 5 years and got to Yodan

    Yodan–that’s awesome.  I only got to Shodan, mostly because USJA has the requirement that you teach for x amount of time for each advancement above that.  That option has not been available to me.  Would appreciate any insights you can offer here.

    Did make it to Nidan in Shin Shin Jujutsu, though.

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  14. Wiley Inactive
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    Xennady:One of the weird things about Trump is that people who know him personally seem to have a much better opinion of him than people who don’t.

    6foot2inhighheels: I recently had a conversation with a top pundit who’s known Trump for 30 years, and he said that Trump IS a genius (at marketing), who thinks that his genius will translate to the Presidency.

    Al Sparks:There are also no stream of stories of people who used to work for him coming out on how bad a person he is, and the media has tried to find them. There’s no stories of personal one on one bad behavior racially either.

    The media has even interviewed various women who have dated him hoping to find someone who acted as crudely as his public persona. It seems he was a perfect gentleman.

    Pseudodionysius: You’re the fifth of sixth person I know who’s related that he’s different in person. All those people were impressed, as were you.

    Joan of Ark La Tex: A friend of ours who had worked with him also said the same thing. Trump is a nice guy with a good heart in real life.

    I know a plumber who worked on Trump’s New Jersey projects and has nothing but praise for Trump. Fair and tough was the description.

    These first hand reports mean more to me than all the news articles combined.

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  15. Wiley Inactive
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    Thanks DocJay for this.

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  16. Polyphemus Inactive
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    DocJay:


    There’s your bumper sticker right there:

    Trump 2016: Less of a Jerk Than You Would Think.

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  17. CB Toder aka Mama Toad Member
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    Polyphemus:

    DocJay:


    There’s your bumper sticker right there:

    Trump 2016: Less of a Jerk Than You Would Think.

    Yeah, I do love that this header has been top of the Main Feed all day thus far…

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  18. Matt Bartle Member
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    Less of a “jerk”?

    Hmmm, I remember it differently.

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  19. Pseudodionysius Inactive
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    Well it’s better than the original title which implied a new line of branded feminine hygiene products.

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  20. goldwaterwoman Thatcher
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    DocJay: Off topic shmoff topic. Anything on a trump or never trump thread beyond usually nice people clawing at each other’s necks is pleasant these days.

    Oh yes!

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  21. The Reticulator Member
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    I wonder if anyone will ever do an article explaining how Hillary Clinton is less of a jerk in person than you would think.

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  22. Boss Mongo Member
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    The Reticulator:I wonder if anyone will ever do an article explaining how Hillary Clinton is less of a jerk in person than you would think.

    Nope.

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  23. Pseudodionysius Inactive
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    The Reticulator:I wonder if anyone will ever do an article explaining how Hillary Clinton is less of a jerk in person than you would think.

    They’re all dead.

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  24. Pseudodionysius Inactive
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    Pseudodionysius:

    The Reticulator:I wonder if anyone will ever do an article explaining how Hillary Clinton is less of a jerk in person than you would think.

    They’re all dead.

    The good news is that once you’re dead she’s no longer mean to you.

    #brightside

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  25. Big Green Inactive
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    Xennady:One of the weird things about Trump is that people who know him personally seem to have a much better opinion of him than people who don’t.

    And if Trump really has been well-coached and has managed to learn from it, then we may well see surprising results from the debates.

    Time will tell.

    Perhaps but those same people could be harmed (financially or business-wise) if they badmouth him. Also, a not insignificant number of those people likely signed non-disparagement agreements with him.

    Plenty of others that know him personally think he is just as big of a jerk as he appears to be in public.

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  26. Big Green Inactive
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    Pseudodionysius:

    The arrogance and bluster were apparent but also what was apparent to me is that he’s less of a narcissist than I thought.

    You’re the fifth of sixth person I know who’s related that he’s different in person. All those people were impressed, as were you. I never bought the narcissist theory (at least not completely) because there are too many instances of him keeping his mouth shut and giving credit to others, particularly when he’s away from the cameras.

    Each of these people also related he seems more comfortable around every day folk which surprised them.

    I’ve met him in person, in his office on 5th Ave and he was a blowhard cartoonish jerk in person.

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  27. Simon Templar Member
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    Pseudodionysius:Well it’s better than the original title which implied a new line of branded feminine hygiene products.

    Missed it.  Darn the bad luck!

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  28. Simon Templar Member
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    Pseudodionysius:

    Pseudodionysius:

    The Reticulator:I wonder if anyone will ever do an article explaining how Hillary Clinton is less of a jerk in person than you would think.

    They’re all dead.

    The good news is that once you’re dead she’s no longer mean to you.

    #brightside

    Too funny.

    Love the hashtag – #brightside.  Not sure whether or not that is actually called a hashtag, but you know what I meant.

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  29. thelonious Member
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    The Reticulator:I wonder if anyone will ever do an article explaining how Hillary Clinton is less of a jerk in person than you would think.

    There’s another noun I’d use for Hillary instead of jerk.

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  30. DocJay Inactive
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    Big Green:

    Pseudodionysius:

    The arrogance and bluster were apparent but also what was apparent to me is that he’s less of a narcissist than I thought.

    You’re the fifth of sixth person I know who’s related that he’s different in person. All those people were impressed, as were you. I never bought the narcissist theory (at least not completely) because there are too many instances of him keeping his mouth shut and giving credit to others, particularly when he’s away from the cameras.

    Each of these people also related he seems more comfortable around every day folk which surprised them.

    I’ve met him in person, in his office on 5th Ave and he was a blowhard cartoonish jerk in person.

    I have a few patients that know him and some say the same.

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