Help Me Pitch Ricochet

 

Join or DieMany of us are quick to tell friends about a great book, movie, or restaurant we’ve discovered. So it is with Ricochet. I want others of the center-right persuasion to experience the awesomeness of this site. So, I’ve made the sales pitch for Ricochet to five people in my area and either gave them a Ricochet business card, or followed up with an e-mail with a link to Ricochet. To the best of my knowledge, none of them have even looked at the site (to their loss).

I may have convinced a cousin to sign up for The Daily Shot. I’ve got one friend who I thought would love Ricochet, so I bought him a one-year membership. Unfortunately, this was just before the conversion to Ricochet 2.0 and Max’s hiring, so the site wasn’t working properly. I couldn’t even get him to come to the Fargo Ricochet Meetup, and he lives closer than every member (except me) who did come. I always tell people about the free content — Main Feed, The Daily Shot, the podcasts — hoping that they will check out that stuff and eventually decide to join, but I don’t think anybody even looks at the site.

I am obviously a terrible salesman for Ricochet. So I want to hear from those of you who have talked somebody into joining. How did you do it?

[Editors’ Note: Do you know someone who craves intelligent, civil conversation with fellow members of the center-right? Ricochet is the place for it. As Randy mentioned, you can give a Coolidge-Level membership as a gift to whomever you choose. And yes, Randy will get credit for the assist.]

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  1. David Sussman Member
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    Yup. About a half dozen members blame me for my recommendation. ;)

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  2. Titus Techera Contributor
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    kylez:I brought Captain Power here. You’ll occasionally see him comment. Persuaded is too strong a word. We were at Yellowstone with a mutual friend in 2012. He had some political podcasts, and I told him about the site.

    Congrats. He’s a swell guy. Haven’t heard much from him lately, though. Do you have any idea why?

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  3. Randy Weivoda Moderator
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    Matt Balzer: I thought the idea of Ricochet sounded good, but I didn’t feel like I had anything useful to add. Still don’t for that matter.

    I disagree.  You’ve written some of the funniest one-liners on Ricochet.  I know I’ve never had an article with a title as clever as this article of yours.  Unfortunately the entire content of that article has been redacted, but the title’s still cool.

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  4. Titus Techera Contributor
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    What was the hellish obscenity that got redacted: I remember reading that! He was making fun of people who try to ruin beer festivals for others–no?

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  5. Matt Balzer Member
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    Titus Techera:What was the hellish obscenity that got redacted: I remember reading that! He was making fun of people who try to ruin beer festivals for others–no?

    I was. I don’t remember what I wrote that was in violation either. I guess some of the links were out of order? I do know that what I wrote was considerably less obscene than what I said after I read the article that prompted that post in the first place.

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  6. Titus Techera Contributor
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    Matt Balzer:

    Titus Techera:What was the hellish obscenity that got redacted: I remember reading that! He was making fun of people who try to ruin beer festivals for others–no?

    I was. I don’t remember what I wrote that was in violation either. I guess some of the links were out of order? I do know that what I wrote was considerably less obscene than what I said after I read the article that prompted that post in the first place.

    I hope you have that on your own computer or in this cloud I keep hearing about in my tinfoil hat. We’ll start a secret Ricochet somehow. We’ll do right by you. The PIT eat their own. I mean, appreciate their own…

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  7. Randy Weivoda Moderator
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    Matt Balzer:

    Titus Techera:What was the hellish obscenity that got redacted: I remember reading that! He was making fun of people who try to ruin beer festivals for others–no?

    I was. I don’t remember what I wrote that was in violation either. I guess some of the links were out of order? I do know that what I wrote was considerably less obscene than what I said after I read the article that prompted that post in the first place.

    As I understand it, there’s some auto-redaction software running now so that if a prohibited word shows up, the whole message is redacted.  But if the author goes in to edit it, they just have to replace the prohibited word and it will be restored.  But this is all hearsay, I haven’t had it happen to me.  You could try editing it, Matt, and see if it comes back.  It was a good article, so I’d prefer to see it restored.

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  8. Titus Techera Contributor
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    Randy Weivoda:

    Matt Balzer:

    Titus Techera:What was the hellish obscenity that got redacted: I remember reading that! He was making fun of people who try to ruin beer festivals for others–no?

    I was. I don’t remember what I wrote that was in violation either. I guess some of the links were out of order? I do know that what I wrote was considerably less obscene than what I said after I read the article that prompted that post in the first place.

    As I understand it, there’s some auto-redaction software running now so that if a prohibited word shows up, the whole message is redacted. But if the author goes in to edit it, they just have to replace the prohibited word and it will be restored. But this is all hearsay, I haven’t had it happen to me. You could try editing it, Matt, and see if it comes back. It was a good article, so I’d prefer to see it restored.

    Me, too.

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  9. Matt Balzer Member
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    Randy Weivoda:

    Matt Balzer:

    Titus Techera:What was the hellish obscenity that got redacted: I remember reading that! He was making fun of people who try to ruin beer festivals for others–no?

    I was. I don’t remember what I wrote that was in violation either. I guess some of the links were out of order? I do know that what I wrote was considerably less obscene than what I said after I read the article that prompted that post in the first place.

    As I understand it, there’s some auto-redaction software running now so that if a prohibited word shows up, the whole message is redacted. But if the author goes in to edit it, they just have to replace the prohibited word and it will be restored. But this is all hearsay, I haven’t had it happen to me. You could try editing it, Matt, and see if it comes back. It was a good article, so I’d prefer to see it restored.

    I believe there were some comments that got restored, I’ll take a look at it and see if I can figure out what should be replaced. My guess is “neckbeards” because it’s discriminatory against hipsters.

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  10. Titus Techera Contributor
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    Huzzah!

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  11. Concretevol Thatcher
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    Carey J.:No. I don’t know any #NeverTrumpers, and they’re about the only ones welcome on the site, anymore. I can’t imagine why anyone but a #NeverTrumper would join.

    Carey we’re gonna have to go get a beer sometime and hash this out. :)

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  12. Concretevol Thatcher
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    Randy Webster:

    Larry3435:

    TKC1101: Having their sanity questioned for their choice of candidate in more than one post kind of did it.

    I do question the sanity, or at least the common sense, of anyone who says that Trump was their first choice, although there aren’t many of those on Ricochet. I do not question or condemn anyone who says that Trump was not their guy, but he is the lesser of two evils as compared to Hillary, and therefore they will vote for him. I believe you have said that is your position. That’s fine. That is an honorable position.

    What I am sick of is being told that I, as a #nevertrump, need to shut up and get with the program. I am sick of being told that if I vote my conscience, or if I put country ahead of party, then I am a sanctimonious traitor.

    It is remarkable to me that you can play the martyr here. Not only has your side picked up support from the majority of the Party, who are reluctantly supporting Trump, but it is your side that is doing all the name-calling and arm-twisting. Why don’t you just accept that there are some people who disagree with you?

    I haven’t noticed a lot of name calling by the people who are reluctantly supporting Trump. I count myself among them. I do remember a lot of name calling in the early days when Trump first declared. And it wasn’t by Trump supporters.

    I call you names often….not about the trump thing though  :)

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  13. captainpower Inactive
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    kylez:I brought Captain Power here. You’ll occasionally see him comment. Persuaded is too strong a word. We were at Yellowstone with a mutual friend in 2012. He had some political podcasts, and I told him about the site.

    All I needed was “Peter Robinson of Uncommon Knowledge” and I was sold. I think I  heard Dennis Prager interview some female from Ricochet prior to that, but I didn’t catch the name.

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  14. TKC1101 Member
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    Larry3435: It is remarkable to me that you can play the martyr here. Not only has your side picked up support from the majority of the Party, who are reluctantly supporting Trump, but it is your side that is doing all the name-calling and arm-twisting. Why don’t you just accept that there are some people who disagree with you?

    If I was to play martyr, it would not be here by the likes of the #NeverEvers.

    I’ll pick a more serious bunch to hammer the  nails in, at least they might do it right.

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  15. Randy Weivoda Moderator
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    I’ve been hoping it wouldn’t come to this, but I’m going to politely request that those who wish to argue about who is more abused on Ricochet, pro- or anti-Trump people, take that argument outside.  There are literally scores of Trump articles just from the last month where this can be debated.

    The question before us here is, “How have people been enticed into joining Ricochet and how can we persuade more people to join?”

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  16. Concretevol Thatcher
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    TKC1101:

    Larry3435: It is remarkable to me that you can play the martyr here. Not only has your side picked up support from the majority of the Party, who are reluctantly supporting Trump, but it is your side that is doing all the name-calling and arm-twisting. Why don’t you just accept that there are some people who disagree with you?

    If I was to play martyr, it would not be here by the likes of the #NeverEvers.

    I’ll pick a more serious bunch to hammer the nails in, at least they might do it right.

    TKC, I have no problem with your posts and your discussions on being for or agin trump etc….I understand your frustrations with immediately getting slammed in many of them by the more adamant Nevertrump folks.  On the other hand, since I myself won’t/can’t vote for Trump either I get Larry’s point as well.  It’s amazing how both sides feel like they are the infringed upon group here.  Could that possibly that means neither are?  I have seen individual posts that swing from “#NeverTrump people need to get onboard or else” to “all trump supporters are brain dead idiots”.  So in each post one side is being attacked and castigated.  I really think it goes both ways around here.

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  17. TKC1101 Member
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    Concretevol: TKC, I have no problem with your posts and your discussions on being for or agin trump etc….I understand your frustrations with immediately getting slammed in many of them by the more adamant Nevertrump folks. On the other hand, since I myself won’t/can’t vote for Trump either I get Larry’s point as well. It’s amazing how both sides feel like they are the infringed upon group here. Could that possibly that means neither are? I have seen individual posts that swing from “#NeverTrump people need to get onboard or else” to “all trump supporters are brain dead idiots”. So in each post one side is being attacked and castigated. I really think it goes both ways around here.

    I responded the question in the post with the facts as I knew them. I did invite several machinists and others who were talking politics to check out Ricochet and that is what I got back. A year earlier, I am sure they would have joined.

    If I should have not answered the question  I missed that cue.

    I felt the martyr thing was out of line, but given the level of  commentary I have received, about par for the course.

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  18. OldDan Rhody Member
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    Vicryl Contessa:

    See, for me TDS and the podcasts wouldn’t have drawn me in, and then y’all would never have had the pleasure of having me on the site. ? It was the conversation on more of the cultural posts that got me. I’m not super up to date on politics the way others are, and I don’t comment that often on political posts because I don’t have anything insightful to say. But the interpersonal interaction is what hooked me. I wonder if this same dynamic isn’t at play for other people my age.

    That’s pretty much me too.  I’m not that much about politics, but there’s a lot more on the site than that.  So, after Hank had been coming around for a while talking about Ricochet stuff, and when I was feeling lazy enough to look for an excuse to not get up out of the chair, I started visiting the site.  What I liked was the variety of subjects and especially the civil discourse of the comments (there were still something like eleven or twelve Republican candidates at that point so the battles hadn’t yet been joined).

    I guess the point is, you need to tailor your pitch to your customer.

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  19. Hank Rhody Contributor
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    Titus Techera:

    kylez:I brought Captain Power here. You’ll occasionally see him comment. Persuaded is too strong a word. We were at Yellowstone with a mutual friend in 2012. He had some political podcasts, and I told him about the site.

    Congrats. He’s a swell guy. Haven’t heard much from him lately, though. Do you have any idea why?

    Yeah. CaptainPower is on my list of most underrated Ricochetti. And not just because he’s following me.

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  20. Titus Techera Contributor
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    Hank Rhody:

    Titus Techera:

    kylez:I brought Captain Power here. You’ll occasionally see him comment. Persuaded is too strong a word. We were at Yellowstone with a mutual friend in 2012. He had some political podcasts, and I told him about the site.

    Congrats. He’s a swell guy. Haven’t heard much from him lately, though. Do you have any idea why?

    Yeah. CaptainPower is on my list of most underrated Ricochetti. And not just because he’s following me.

    I thought this was going to be a more Nixonian list-

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  21. Larry3435 Inactive
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    TKC1101:

    Larry3435: It is remarkable to me that you can play the martyr here. Not only has your side picked up support from the majority of the Party, who are reluctantly supporting Trump, but it is your side that is doing all the name-calling and arm-twisting. Why don’t you just accept that there are some people who disagree with you?

    If I was to play martyr, it would not be here by the likes of the #NeverEvers.

    I’ll pick a more serious bunch to hammer the nails in, at least they might do it right.

    By all means.  Imagine the extent of my dismay.

    And since I have been censored for saying things like that before, I will add to it.  First, I find your comments to detract from the discussion here.  Second, I have nothing but contempt for people who threaten to leave this site to make a point.  If you want to leave, don’t threaten; just do it.  Third, for you of all people to call the participants in this discussion “unserious” borders on the comical, and I think it is self-evident which side of that border we are talking about.

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  22. Jamie Lockett Member
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    Larry3435: Second, I have nothing but contempt for people who threaten to leave this site to make a point. If you want to leave, don’t threaten; just do it.

    This is a pet peeve of mine too. If you feel like R> holds no more value for you then I’m sad to see you go but just leave quietly. Respect your fellow members and our community enough to not salt the earth on your way out.

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  23. 6foot2inhighheels Member
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    What, are you kidding me?  I leave a little trail of Ricochet breadcrumbs everywhere I go!

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  24. RyanM Inactive
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    Larry3435:

    TKC1101:

    Larry3435:

    By all means. Imagine the extent of my dismay.

    And since I have been censored for saying things like that before, I will add to it. First, I find your comments to detract from the discussion here. Second, I have nothing but contempt for people who threaten to leave this site to make a point. If you want to leave, don’t threaten; just do it. Third, for you of all people to call the participants in this discussion “unserious” borders on the comical, and I think it is self-evident which side of that border we are talking about.

    Seems a bit over the top all around.  But hyperbole tends to have a pendulum effect… I feel like I’ve had meaningful dialogue with members of both sides of this debate. I probably won’t vote for Trump, and I’ll never be convinced that he is a good candidate… But there are very few people at ricochet who are seemingly crazy about it. The problem is simply that hyperbole leads to hyperbole.

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  25. OldDan Rhody Member
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    When someone is just visiting the Ricochet site, the “Member Feed” object should be visible.  Clicking on it could prompt one to join, the same as what happens when clicking on the “Most Popular” list.  That way visitors would be more aware that there is more going on at Ricochet than is immediately apparent.

    Also, I don’t think buying someone a gift membership is going to be helpful in the long run.  The cost of membership is minimal, and if they’re not interested enough to join then getting a free ride probably won’t change that perception.

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  26. Matt Balzer Member
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    OldDan Rhody: Also, I don’t think buying someone a gift membership is going to be helpful in the long run. The cost of membership is minimal, and if they’re not interested enough to join then getting a free ride probably won’t change that perception.

    You gotta put some bait on your hook if you want the fish to bite.

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  27. Mike LaRoche Inactive
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    Claire recruited me six years ago.

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  28. Kevin Creighton Contributor
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    Ricochet: The comments section for people who hate the comments section.

    • #88
  29. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Ricochet membership should mandated by the federal government.

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  30. Mike LaRoche Inactive
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    Basil Fawlty:Ricochet membership should mandated by the federal government.

    Call it the John Roberts Membership.

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