Campaigning Like He Wants To Win

 

Yes, I know. Trump. Short-fingered vulgarian. Enemy of all that’s good. Big state authoritarian. Say what you will about Trump, whoever wants to get in the cage with the Clinton Crime Family™ is going to have to fight like he wants to win. This one’s gotta sting:

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  1. Nick Stuart Inactive
    Nick Stuart
    @NickStuart

    Claire Berlinski, Ed.: But I was thinking it just didn’t work — I mean, the one thing we know about her is you can’t get rid of her. She’s always been around. I would have chosen something like “no flair,” or “time-serving,”

    Time will tell. I thought describing Clinton as lacking stamina was pretty good.

    Describing Jeb! as “low energy” and Rubio as “little Marco” seemed pretty effective.

    No need to limit though “time-serving” is good too.

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  2. Sash Member
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    @Sash

    Trump isn’t getting in the ring with the Clintons, he is in bed with them.

    Trump is the back up for the Clinton machine if Hillary loses.

    That is why those of us who dislike Hillary most refuse to allow her to take over our movement as well.

    Hillary is better than Trump, she is at least not pretending to be what both of them actually are.

    It’s hard to find someone more dishonest than Hillary, but Congrats. You did it.

    When you wanted to burn it all down, what did you think would happen?

    Hillary is what it looks like when you destroy the Republican Party. Congrats again, all your goals are reached, every one of them ends with Hillary in the Whitehouse.

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  3. Nick Stuart Inactive
    Nick Stuart
    @NickStuart

    Klaatu:

    How does the Secret Service doing their job apply to this conversation?

    Did you miss the tough guy cowering?

    The point is not that attacks focusing on one or another policy or personal foible cannot be made. Of course they can, and Trump is a target-rich environment.

    The point I’m making is that unlike so many previous Republican candidates, Trump does not seem like he’s going to just crumple and let the attacks go unanswered.

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  4. Nick Stuart Inactive
    Nick Stuart
    @NickStuart

    Sash: Hillary is better than Trump, she is at least not pretending to be what both of them actually are.

    If you seriously believe Clinton is better for the country than Trump, vote for her to do your bit to spare the country of the horrors of a Trump presidency. I disagree, & if Trump’s the nominee, I’ll be voting for him.

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  5. Midget Faded Rattlesnake Member
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    @Midge

    Nick Stuart:

    Saint Augustine:

    Nick Stuart:

    The childish and bullying behavior that has astonished me in the past 3 months or so has been that of some members of the conservative commentariat who have gone past reasoned opposition to almost inchoate foaming rage.

    Who was that?

    There’s a lot of subjective judgment involved. To name just a few names:

    Funny, I read an article like that and see frustrated love, not animus. Do you think KDW didn’t want his readers to feel for the suffering caused by the social destruction he described? And how many of us can’t relate to finding ourselves in a terrible situation and being desperately tempted to blame the wrong thing? To me, that humanizes, not dehumanizes, Trump supporters.

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  6. Larry3435 Inactive
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    Nick Stuart:The point I’m making is that unlike so many previous Republican candidates, Trump does not seem like he’s going to just crumple and let the attacks go unanswered.

    Who cares?  Trump is going to lose, and then just disappear.  Well, “lose” is an understatement.  He is going to be slaughtered.  A fifty state landslide is not out of the question.

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  7. Redneck Desi Inactive
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    Ummm….it is not very hard to do attack ads on Hillary. Cruz will open up a can of Texas whoop a@# on her.

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  8. livingthehighlife Inactive
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    Mike LaRoche:Trump will win. Handily. Deal with it.

    Good.  Then he won’t need my vote.

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  9. Saint Augustine Member
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    Nick Stuart:

    I don’t follow Glen Beck, but Williamson and the others at NRO have not abandoned reasoned opposition.  They’re full of reason, bursting with good arguments.

    Foaming rage?  Almost a fair description of some NRO pieces on Trump.  Almost, but not quite.

    A better description would be “blistering criticism.”

    Really all those particular pieces have is stinging rhetoric accompanying good logic.  That’s not a bad combination.  It’s a good combination.

    I found it telling that the balance of opinion on NRO seemed to be that Trump was primarily responsible for the violent Leftists who dog his rallies, not the Leftists themselves.

    That would be an error on NRO’s part.  There are definitely detractors from this view.  In fact, I’m not at all sure there is a balance of opinion in favor of the view that Trump is primarily responsible.  (There may be an overemphasis on Trump’s responsibility, but that is a different thing.)

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  10. No Caesar Thatcher
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    I have long said that Trump got into this as a stalking horse for Hillary, and I still believe that to be true.  However, as he started winning he got caught up in the prospect of really winning, and decided to win.  That doesn’t change the dynamic of him making her prospects better.

    Like many, I find plenty wrong with Trump.  I hope that Cruz beats him for the nomination.  Having said that, I am not in the #NeverTrump crowd.  These are people I generally respect.  I understand their arguments and am sympathetic as far as they go, but they need to realize how they sound outside of the political-coverage bubble.  They come off as saying that Conservatism is more important than the future of the nation.  They need to take a deep breath, and think about the big picture.

    If Trump is the nominee I will have a very hard time voting for him, but I will.  It’s not a vote in a vacuum.  It’s not about how dirty the vote makes me feel.  I will be voting against the Democrat nominee.  That’s what it comes down to: #NeverHillary.

    That woman can never be allowed to become President.  The litany of why is long and sordid, but a quick recap includes her direct damage to the long-term security of the US, the lies to the faces of the families of the victims of her incompetence, the war-profiteering and poverty-profiteering, and the droit du seigneur attitude toward laws and rules.  There are big risks with a President Trump, and he would have to be heavily managed by true Conservatives (which is why Moore and Kudlow are smart, and looking out for our interests).  But there is a certainty of bad decisions and lawlessness with a President Hillary.

    If you think that the certainty of the damage of a President Hillary is preferable to the possibility of damage of a President Trump, then you need to take a deep breath and think about what this crazy election season is doing to your judgement.  You are saying the tainting of our side is worse than the cementing in place of the Obama “Hope’n’Change” agenda.

    No, Hillary must be stopped by any means necessary.  For me that is voting against her if it’s a Trump v. Clinton election, by voting Trump.  In life there are many cases where we are forced to choose between terrible and totally unacceptable options.  We don’t like being presented with those limited choices, but sometimes reality sucks.

    Go Cruz!  I do enjoy the irony that the Washington establishment has to swallow the reality that it is only TrusTED who can Unite the Right.

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  11. Carey J. Inactive
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    No Caesar:That’s what it comes down to: #NeverHillary.

    But there is a certainty of bad decisions and lawlessness with a President Hillary.

    If you think that the certainty of the damage of a President Hillary is preferable to the possibility of damage of a President Trump, then you need to take a deep breath and think about what this crazy election season is doing to your judgement. You are saying the tainting of our side is worse than the cementing in place of the Obama “Hope’n’Change” agenda.

    No, Hillary must be stopped by any means necessary. For me that is voting against her if it’s a Trump v. Clinton election, by voting Trump. In life there are many cases where we are forced to choose between terrible and totally unacceptable options. We don’t like being presented with those limited choices, but sometimes reality sucks.

    Go Cruz! I do enjoy the irony that the Washington establishment has to swallow the reality that it is only TrusTED who can Unite the Right.

    #NeverHillary, indeed. The irony of party outsiders, both Trump and Cruz, telling the establishment to hold their noses and vote against the Democrat is truly delicious.

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