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  1. WI Con Member
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    Valiuth:Meh…

    Carly is a fire cracker, but really she is mostly irrelevant, and doesn’t speak for any real significant constituency, that isn’t already on board with Cruz.

    Cruz/Fiorina ticket doesn’t seem that great too me…too much of the same note. What does she add to the ticket. I would be far more excited about a Cruz/Rubio ticket. Fiorina is really like a female Romney but less politically successful.

    Well then America’s Sweetheart better start dealing before he just as ‘irrelevant’ as Carly.

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  2. katievs Inactive
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    Valiuth:

    Cruz/Fiorina ticket doesn’t seem that great too me…too much of the same note. What does she add to the ticket. I would be far more excited about a Cruz/Rubio ticket. Fiorina is really like a female Romney but less politically successful.

    Carly is fresh, fun, and female, all things Cruz isn’t. (They’ve both got forceful and fearless down pat, but it’s not like we don’t need as much of those as we can get.)

    Romney manages to come across as both stiff and a squish. Carly is quite the opposite.

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  3. nyconservative Member
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    I have to laugh when people criticize candidates for trying to beat other candidates….Cruz trying to beat or knock Rubio out in Florida makes perfect sense….What should happen is pretty obvious…Rubio should drop out and join Fiorina in openly supporting Cruz.Who knows if Rubio’s voters joined with Cruz voters in Florida there might even be a chance for Cruz to throw a scare into Trump there…..

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  4. Columbo Inactive
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    Mendel:

    Columbo:There is some fascinating ILLUMINATION on the ugliness of some Ricochet posts happening in the Main Feed over Ted Cruz, eh?

    But your comment also illuminates an equally depressing phenomenon: Ricochet derangement syndrome.

    So one person out of 10 in this thread makes a negative comment about Cruz and that somehow shows that all of Ricochet hates Cruz?

    Look at that poll in the right-hand margin. Cruz is the favorite among members here. The posts and comments on the site reflect that. Yet a small but vocal group somehow thinks the entire site is in the tank for Rubio despite ample evidence to the contrary.

    No. “Some” does not equal “all”. And honestly, I don’t think I am the one who conflated them in my post.

    And my comment wasn’t even mostly directed at the “1-in-10” person on this thread. It’s all about the “prominence” of the posters. And for the record, I don’t think Ricochet comes even remotely close to “ugly”. But there is certainly a lot of talk (feelings) about it. And from the perspective of this n00b, it seems (feels) directed at those of us who “push back” on the prominent pro-Rubio/anti-Trump rhetoric.

    Me being me, I can’t help but point out when I see the “man bites dog” examples appear.

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  5. Hoyacon Member
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    Sash:Cruz is scum. When he went after Rubio in Florida, he went back to being a faint choice in the back rooms of my choices.

    Way to enable those who want to make overly-broad generalizations about Rubio supporters.

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  6. Hoyacon Member
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    ValiuthCruz/Fiorina ticket doesn’t seem that great too me…too much of the same note.

    Yep.  It seems like a natural if you like Cruz and you like Fiorina, but IMO Cruz projects as the “bad cop” on a ticket (that’s fine).  He needs a good cop.  As a pot stirrer, I’d rather see Nikki Haley.  Now where’s my flak jacket?

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  7. rico Inactive
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    Hoyacon:

    ValiuthCruz/Fiorina ticket doesn’t seem that great too me…too much of the same note.

    Yep. It seems like a natural if you like Cruz and you like Fiorina, but IMO Cruz projects as the “bad cop” on a ticket (that’s fine). He needs a good cop. As a pot stirrer, I’d rather see Nikki Haley. Now where’s my flak jacket?

    Naw, she’s already branded “Marco.”

    I nominate a more substantive VP candidate: Mitch Daniels.

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  8. The Reticulator Member
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    katievs:Weird that neither Drudge nor the Corner has yet mentioned her endorsement.

    Also, the WSJ staff has been working overtime to keep the word “Cruz” off of its front page.  And in one of today’s articles it managed to show the photo of every current candidate except…  Well, it’s gotten so you need to read that paper like you used to read Pravda and Izvestia.  The most interesting information is that which is prominent by its omission.

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  9. The Reticulator Member
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    I found it interesting that in Michigan the ratio of female to male support for Cruz was higher than for any other candidate except Rubio.  Must be because he projects insincerity.  Of course Rubio’s numbers were low all around.

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  10. Hoyacon Member
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    rico:

    Naw, she’s already branded “Marco.”

    Eh–this is politics.  If Cruz sees a benefit (bringing Rubio supporters into his tent?), I don’t think that bridge was burned.  I’m not aware that she went after Cruz.

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  11. Hoyacon Member
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    katievs:

    Carly is fresh, fun, and female, all things Cruz isn’t. (They’ve both got forceful and fearless down pat, but it’s not like we don’t need as much of those as we can get.)

    Romney manages to come across as both stiff and a squish. Carly is quite the opposite.

    Cruz was not my first choice, so I suppose that I don’t have much standing on the issue, but I’m not getting the “fun” part.  I think that she’s highly impressive, and, for better or worse, shares some of Cruz’s doctrinaire characteristics.  In McLuhan media-speak, they’re both “cold,” as opposed to “hot.”  Sorry, I can’t be any clearer on this. JMHO.

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  12. rico Inactive
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    Hoyacon:

    rico:

    Naw, she’s already branded “Marco.”

    Eh–this is politics. If Cruz sees a benefit (bringing Rubio supporters into his tent?), I don’t think that bridge was burned. I’m not aware that she went after Cruz.

    I agree that bridges stand unburned. I’m thinking that the optics aren’t very good, but more importantly, that there are better choices.

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  13. Hoyacon Member
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    rico:

    I agree that bridges stand unburned. I’m thinking that the optics aren’t very good, but more importantly, that there are better choices.

    And I get that . . . Daniels is by no means chopped liver–I’m sorry he never ran for the top spot.  I’m probably overly concerned with gender in the #2 spot, considering what I expect from Clinton.

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  14. Hartmann von Aue Member
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    Cruz/Fiorina is a ticket I would very much like to vote for.

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  15. Mike LaRoche Inactive
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    I suggested a Cruz/Fiorina ticket months ago.

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  16. Pencilvania Inactive
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    I’m not as up on election history as many other people here – how often has a nominee chosen a former opponent as a running mate?  How often has a nominee put a former opponent in any important position?

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  17. The Reticulator Member
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    Pencilvania:I’m not as up on election history as many other people here – how often has a nominee chosen a former opponent as a running mate? How often has a nominee put a former opponent in any important position?

    Is a good question.  Usually people who are ambitious enough to run for that office aren’t interested in consolation prizes.  But there are the annointed ones like GHWB.

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  18. Randy Weivoda Moderator
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    Pencilvania:I’m not as up on election history as many other people here – how often has a nominee chosen a former opponent as a running mate? How often has a nominee put a former opponent in any important position?

    Reagan chose Bush, who was a rival for the nomination.  Same for Clinton and Gore.  John Kerry chose John Edwards, who had been running for the big prize.  Obama and Biden were both running for President in 2008.  So it happens fairly often.

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  19. katievs Inactive
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    Pencilvania:I’m not as up on election history as many other people here – how often has a nominee chosen a former opponent as a running mate? How often has a nominee put a former opponent in any important position?

    It’s normal. See for instance, Clinton/Gore and Reagan/Bush.

    Dan Mclaughlin, who is urging a Cruz/Rubio ticket, has a good rundown today.

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  20. Benjamin Glaser Inactive
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    This Jennifer Rubin article is devastating for Rubio

    Read it here

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  21. James Gawron Inactive
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    Eds & all,

    Cruz / Fiorina would be infinitely more acceptable to me than Trump / Christie.

    Regards,

    Jim

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  22. The Reticulator Member
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    James Gawron:Eds & all,

    Cruz / Fiorina would be infinitely more acceptable to me than Trump / Christie.

    Regards,

    Jim

    Same here, but I would put the word INFINITELY in bold, all-caps, italics.

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  23. Casey Way Inactive
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    Cruz is in striking distance of Trump.

    Cruz is more consistently conservative than Trump.

    Cruz has a better head to head chance against Clinton than Trump according to polls now.

    Cruz is comfortable in cross examination, which Clinton deserves on a public stage as opposed to the circus of a Congressional committee.

    Cruz is not perfect. Cruz has not been, and is still not my personal favorite in the race. But he is the most viable conservative alternative to Trump.

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  24. FreeWifiDuringSermon Inactive
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    Mike LaRoche:I suggested a Cruz/Fiorina ticket months ago.

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  25. Dorothea Inactive
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    Pencilvania:I’m not as up on election history as many other people here – how often has a nominee chosen a former opponent as a running mate? How often has a nominee put a former opponent in any important position?

    Reagan chose G. H. W. Bush in the same campaign where Bush Senior called Reagan’s “trickle-down” (A. Laffer) economic theory “voodoo economics.”

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  26. Hoyacon Member
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    Benjamin Glaser:This Jennifer Rubin article is devastating for Rubio

    Read it here

    Perhaps devastating for some, but I’m still waiting for the coveted endorsements of Frank Soto, Brian Watt, Could Be Anyone, and Leigh.

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  27. katievs Inactive
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    Hoyacon:

    Benjamin Glaser:This Jennifer Rubin article is devastating for Rubio

    Read it here

    Perhaps devastating for some, but I’m still waiting for the coveted endorsements of Frank Soto, Brian Watt, Could Be Anyone, and Leigh.

    Mona almost got there at the Corner today.

    We need to be patient. This is hard.

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  28. James Gawron Inactive
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    katievs:

    Hoyacon:

    Benjamin Glaser:This Jennifer Rubin article is devastating for Rubio

    Read it here

    Perhaps devastating for some, but I’m still waiting for the coveted endorsements of Frank Soto, Brian Watt, Could Be Anyone, and Leigh.

    Mona almost got there at the Corner today.

    We need to be patient. This is hard.

    Kati,

    Jeb! and Rick Scott have not endorsed Rubio. If there ever was a banal vindictive establishment this is it. Jeb! and his super-pack attacked Rubio for 4 months. Yet, Rubio is still getting far more support than Jeb! ever got. They couldn’t see their way clear to take a chance on Marco. Not to be overly dramatic but they stabbed Marco in the back living in a fantasy world that they were movers and shakers.

    Trust me they will be marginalized from this point forward. If Cruz wanted to offer Marco VP at this point Marco could pull out. I doubt that Cruz has made the offer. Other than that Marco has no incentive to do anything but go to Florida and try to win with or without the idiot establishment. It’s the stuff of tragedy.

    Jennifer Rubin is a dreamer. Nice to have steady work as a columnist. She need not worry that her ideas don’t quite measure up to reality. The paycheck will be there anyway.

    Regards,

    Jim

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  29. Songwriter Inactive
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    Mendel:As for this endorsement, I think it’s great news but likely won’t make a splash.

    For everyone gnashing their teeth about how Ricochet is Rubioland, here’s a newsflash: Rubio is not the natural candidate for Ricochet, Fiorina is. Why? Because she’s intelligent, civil, and well-composed – the traits we aspire to here.

    Unfortunately, for precisely those reasons, she was and remains a niche figure, completely unknown to most everyone in the electorate save for nerds like us. So while we’re giving each other hi-fives about this announcement, most primary voters – if they even saw this news – are probably asking themselves “Carly who?”.

    That is a sad, and depressingly accurate, assessment.  sigh.

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  30. rico Inactive
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    Hoyacon:

    Benjamin Glaser:This Jennifer Rubin article is devastating for Rubio

    Read it here

    Perhaps devastating for some, but I’m still waiting for the coveted endorsements of Frank Soto, Brian Watt, Could Be Anyone, and Leigh.

    Chopped liver, perhaps, but you don’t have to wait any longer for the rico flip-flop-flip.

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