An Interesting Robocall

 
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William Johnson, of the American Nationalist Super PAC, is supporting Donald Trump.

I got my first political robocall of the season last night, and it was so off-putting I didn’t know if this was actually from people supporting Donald Trump, or from an opponent trying to paint Trump in a bad light. I mentioned this on another thread and everyone’s favorite snake-lady suggested that if I could figure out who it was from, it would make an interesting post.

So I did a search and found a newspaper article that describes the very call I got. The article says the call is going around the Iron Range, which is northeastern Minnesota. I live in northwestern Minnesota, so maybe the call is state-wide. I did not record the call, but looking at the content in the article, this sounds just like what I heard.

“The American Nationalist Super PAC makes this call to support Donald Trump. I am William Johnson, a farmer and white nationalist.

“The white race is dying out in America and Europe because we are afraid to be called racist. This is our mindset: It’s okay that our government destroys our children’s future, but don’t call me racist. I’m afraid to be called racist. It’s okay to give away our country for immigration, but don’t call me racist. It’s okay that few schools anymore have beautiful white children in the majority, but don’t call me racist. Gradual genocide against the white race is okay, but don’t call me racist. I’m afraid to be called racist.

“Donald Trump is not a racist, but Donald Trump is not afraid. Don’t vote for a Cuban; vote for Donald Trump.

“… This call is not authorized by Donald Trump.’ ”

Snooping around a little more I see there is a party called American Nationalist Party, but their website says they are open to people of all races and ethnic backgrounds, so it ought not be them who made the ad. So I don’t know if this is an ad from authentic pro-Trump racists, or if it’s being done by anti-Trump people trying to sell people on the idea that Trump is favored by white supremacists and therefore is to be avoided. Political campaigns do bring out nuts, so either possibility is plausible.  Does anybody know anything more about this?

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  1. wmartin Member
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    #29: Anti-white discrimination is legal now, in hiring, contracting, college admissions,etc. Do you imagine that situation will improve when whites are themselves a minority? Do you expect today’s minorities will give up their legal advantages out of public-spiritedness?

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  2. Randy Weivoda Moderator
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    wmartin:#29: Anti-white discrimination is legal now, in hiring, contracting, college admissions,etc. Do you imagine that situation will improve when whites are themselves a minority? Do you expect today’s minorities will give up their legal advantages out of public-spiritedness?

    I have little confidence in my ability to predict the future, so I don’t have any expectations either way.  I think it’s possible that these racial set-asides will be phased out in time.

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  3. Valiuth Member
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    wmartin:#29: Anti-white discrimination is legal now, in hiring, contracting, college admissions,etc. Do you imagine that situation will improve when whites are themselves a minority? Do you expect today’s minorities will give up their legal advantages out of public-spiritedness?

    Minority is a self constructed concept. The simple alteration of the definition of in-groups can shift people from minority or majority status. Heck the universal concept of Whiteness is a rather new development among the racist movement. It was not always fashionable to lump Slavs (such as myself) into the same group as purebred “Nords”.

    Of course the modern incarnations of racism like to obfuscate with talk of cultural preservation as opposed to racial hygienic. Of course culture itself is even more malleable than the vaguely defined term of race. After all African-Americans, and Mexicans are all culturally Europeans. Certainly as much so as the Basque or the Welsh.

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  4. Brian Watt Inactive
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    wmartin:In 27 years, white Americans will be a despised minority against whom it will be legal to discriminate. Other than the “don’t vote for a Cuban” or the overwrought “white genocide” part, I don’ t really find anything wrong or shocking with that robocall. Very few people graciously accept being pushed into minority status.

    That’s an interesting example of compartmentalism. “Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?” Help me understand, should the “white genocide” part have been more subtle?

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  5. Carey J. Inactive
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    Valiuth:

    wmartin:#29: Anti-white discrimination is legal now, in hiring, contracting, college admissions,etc. Do you imagine that situation will improve when whites are themselves a minority? Do you expect today’s minorities will give up their legal advantages out of public-spiritedness?

    Minority is a self constructed concept. The simple alteration of the definition of in-groups can shift people from minority or majority status. Heck the universal concept of Whiteness is a rather new development among the racist movement. It was not always fashionable to lump Slavs (such as myself) into the same group as purebred “Nords”.

    Of course the modern incarnations of racism like to obfuscate with talk of cultural preservation as opposed to racial hygienic. Of course culture itself is even more malleable than the vaguely defined term of race. After all African-Americans, and Mexicans are all culturally Europeans. Certainly as much so as the Basque or the Welsh.

    There is one critical difference between race and culture.You don’t get to change your race, ever. You can reject a dysfunctional culture and choose to assimilate into a more functional one.

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  6. wmartin Member
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    #34: Well, since whites are not being rounded up and gassed, “white genocide”seems a tad overwrought. On the other hand, white Americans should be furious that their country is being turned into Northern Brazil because of a collusion between big government and big business.

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    La Raza endorsed the Gang of Eight bill. Can that be held against Rubio?

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  8. Brian Watt Inactive
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    wmartin:#34: Well, since whites are not being rounded up and gassed, “white genocide”seems a tad overwrought. On the other hand, white Americans should be furious that their country is being turned into Northern Brazil because of a collusion between big government and big business.

    Yeah, perhaps if more businessmen like Donald Trump sourced manufacturing for his branded apparel here in America rather than China and Mexico and hired more American citizens (of every ethnic background and skin tone) at his resort properties – you know – the ones who’ve expressed that ‘yes, indeed, they would really like the job being offered’ that some of this fear would go away. But I doubt it.

    Perhaps if people voted for more conservatives and a conservative frontrunner (not a frontrunner with Liberal Democrat positions) who would appoint conservative judges who would then begin to dismantle affirmative action, then much of this fear of being despised and oppressed would go away. One would hope.

    All that said, if you’re vehemently opposed to affirmative action, as I am, you should be in favor of disposing with any notion of racial labeling whether Hispanic, African American, Asian, or White and deal with Americans as Americans regardless of their skin tones. I prefer not to be categorized as a white American. I have relatives that are a blend of Japanese, Scots, Irish and German who are Americans. So, labels don’t mean much to me as much as they seem to mean to other people.

    I’m not afraid of the white Americans being oppressed or being outnumbered. I am concerned and wary of anyone who uses race to gin up fear whatever their own ethnicity or genetic make-up. I am wary of anyone who seems to advocate racial purity. I would much prefer a nation where racial labeling is relegated to the ash heap of history and intermarriage among races and ethnicities is encouraged and celebrated. It might even help to eliminate notions of fear and racial oppression and allow people to focus on the content of everyone’s character and their individual gifts rather than to continue to behave tribally and in constant fear of losing their skin-tone labeled identity. But what the hell do I know.

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  9. Randy Webster Inactive
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    No one, and I mean no one (the per centage is vanishlingly small) hires based on race anymore.  It’s time to shut this whole branch of the government down.  Will it happen?  No.

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  10. Polyphemus Inactive
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    This is always the danger isn’t it? “Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world”

    Sure, maybe a bit overwrought myself to invoke Yeats’ Second Coming just because of a weird campaign season. However, I do think that the famous line captures an essential element of a republic. When the best lack conviction, the worst carry the day with their intensity. When a conservative party loses it’s nerve, becoming feckless in the face of the soft tyranny of “social justice warriors”, the reaction that builds up can become intense and dangerous. This is but one sign of that.

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  11. Freesmith Member
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    Socialists and race-hustlers openly support the Democratic Party, which they have re-made to European-style left-wing, anti-nationalist social democratic orientation and no one says boo. It’s the “Coalition of the Ascendent.”

    A fringe outfit does a robo-call in the Iron Range and conservatives fall over themselves promising to suppress their own voting power. “I’m fine with being a minority and a loser as long as I can have my integrity.”

    Race is everywhere – on campuses, on the streets, at the Oscars, on the best-seller lists – but don’t you dare mention the subject if you are a conservative. For you, there is no such thing as race, you stupid racist!

    Which of course explains why even though Affirmative Action is counter-productive, unAmerican, unconservative and unconstitutional, none of the 15 Republican presidential wannabes said very much against it, let alone promised to abolish the stupid, Nixonian policy.

    “Don’t call me a racist. I’m afraid of being called a racist.”

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  12. donald todd Inactive
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    We’ve had Ricochetti who claimed that they’d vote for Hillary! before they’d vote for Trump.  No one who would vote for Hillary! is a conservative.  Might be a Republican noting that a number of Republicans voted for Barry.

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  13. Brian Watt Inactive
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    donald todd:We’ve had Ricochetti who claimed that they’d vote for Hillary! before they’d vote for Trump. No one who would vote for Hillary! is a conservative. Might be a Republican noting that a number of Republicans voted for Barry.

    I think you may be on the wrong thread.

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  14. Randy Weivoda Moderator
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    Freesmith:Socialists and race-hustlers openly support the Democratic Party, which they have re-made to European-style left-wing, anti-nationalist social democratic orientation and no one says boo. It’s the “Coalition of the Ascendent.”

    On Ricochet and in other segments of conservative media, I’ve heard people say that the Democrats are moving ever-more socialist.  Rush Limbaugh has opined that President Kennedy wouldn’t even recognize the party.  So I think there has been plenty of boo-saying on the topic.

    A fringe outfit does a robo-call in the Iron Range and conservatives fall over themselves promising to suppress their own voting power. “I’m fine with being a minority and a loser as long as I can have my integrity.”

    Nobody on this thread has suggested that it’s not a fringe outfit.  In the original post I mentioned that I was uncertain if this was a real organization or just a put-on to make Trump supporters look bad.  Nobody here is falling over themselves, we are having a panic-free discussion as near as I can tell.

    Which of course explains why even though Affirmative Action is counter-productive, unAmerican, unconservative and unconstitutional, none of the 15 Republican presidential wannabes said very much against it, let alone promised to abolish the stupid, Nixonian policy.

    We’re looking at the strong possibility of a nuclear-armed Iran, we’ve got an enormous national debt, an economy that has been stagnant for most of a decade, a tax and regulatory environment that is driving American companies away, and much more.  Affirmative action just isn’t at the top of many people’s to do list, right now.  I have an abiding interest in many issues that aren’t being addressed in this campaign because they just aren’t the highest priority for most people.

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  15. Randy Webster Inactive
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    Randy Weivoda: Nobody here is falling over themselves, we are having a panic-free discussion as near as I can tell.

    Oh, right.  I’m panicked, I tell you.

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