Gov. Haley to Endorse Rubio

 

Rubio-HaleyBig news out of South Carolina. Popular Gov. Nikki Haley will endorse Sen. Marco Rubio in the GOP presidential race:

U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio will win South Carolina’s most Republican coveted endorsement of the 2016 presidential race when Gov. Nikki Haley announces her support at a Chapin rally on Wednesday evening, a source with knowledge of the governor’s decision told The State.

Haley, the state’s most popular GOP politician in polls, has decided to back the establishment candidate considered to be in best position to challenge Republican front-runners Donald Trump and Ted Cruz.

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who has shared advice on education issues with the governor and helped her raise money for her re-election bid in 2014, also was considered a top contender to win Haley’s endorsement.

But he has lagged in recent S.C. polls, falling to fifth in the six-candidate GOP field. Rubio sits third.

According to a recent statewide poll, Haley has a remarkable 80 percent approval rating among South Carolina’s likely Republican primary voters, and is often mentioned as a possible vice presidential pick. Haley joins fellow Palmetto State conservatives Sen. Tim Scott and Rep. Trey Gowdy in endorsing Rubio.

Do you think this will help Marco’s fortunes in SC’s crucial vote — and does it make Haley a front-runner for his potential veep spot?

Update: C-SPAN is running a live feed of the endorsement.

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  1. Frozen Chosen Inactive
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    It seems to me like Rubio is getting his momentum back after NH and this endorsement is another sign of that.  A recent national poll had him beating Cruz slightly and he’s tied for second in SC.

    Remember, Rubio doesn’t have to beat Trump right now, he just needs to establish himself as the most viable alternative.  Then he can collect votes as the other candidates drop out.

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  2. Leigh Inactive
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    Drusus:

    Leigh:

    Drusus: Oh yeah, how could I forget that! I guess I was thinking of Tim Scott and wishing he were Senator instead of Graham.

    Tim Scott is the other senator — Haley appointed him to replace DeMint after DeMint stepped down to go to Heritage (and then he won election convincingly). Would’ve loved to see him or somebody take Graham out, but not happening it seems.

    Argh! Then I guess I mean Trey Gowdy. Geez, I have covered myself in shame.

    Why? Unless you’ve moved to SC since writing your profile, you probably know more about SC politics than I do the states next door to me…

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  3. Lucy Pevensie Inactive
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    Mendel:

    Lucy Pevensie:

    Mendel High approval ratings do not mean a person is actually influential.

    In general, I agree. In this specific case, however, you are wrong. The Haley endorsement is huge in South Carolina, and so are the Scott and Gowdy endorsements.

    You certainly have more local knowledge than I. Since the polling currently seems to be stable in SC, I suppose we’ll have a decent sense of the influence (or lack thereof) of this endorsement by Sunday.

    If you want details, feel free to pm me.

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  4. E. Kent Golding Moderator
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    Either Cruz or Rubio would be the most conservative nominee since Reagan.   There are reasons to prefer either over the other.  Both are conviction politicians,  even on their wrong headed convictions.   I would be happy winning with either.  However,  we really really need to win.

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  5. Tom Meyer, Ed. Member
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    Did everyone catch this related bit of bile?

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  6. Leigh Inactive
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    Tom Meyer, Ed.:Did everyone catch this related bit of bile?

    Yes. That is absolutely disgusting.

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  7. TKC1101 Member
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    James Of England: Is it really your view that there were no last minute shifts in New Hampshire or Iowa? As someone who talked to quite a lot of New Hampshire voters, that was not my impression.

    I admit my data is anecdotal, from people I know there who go on and on that the best way to get on national tv is to claim to be undecided. The folks I talked to say the last minute thing is overdone. They also say lying to pollsters is a local sport, particularly about minor candidates.

    Given their mischievous nature, they could be putting me on also.

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  8. Sash Member
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    Listening to the Town Hall, Cruz talking and talking and talking and talking.

    Rubio makes everyone in the room seem like part of his team.  Cruz is just a talker, ug.

    It is so hard to listen to this guy.

    Rubio didn’t talk about others at all.  He said what his ideas are.

    Cruz is like a gossip… pointing out what’s wrong with others, that just makes him look really small and petty.

    *** this is edit time…. Cruz isn’t going to make attacks.  Right.  Ug

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  9. James Of England Inactive
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    Leigh:

    Tom Meyer, Ed.:Did everyone catch this related bit of bile?

    Yes. That is absolutely disgusting.

    While I’m obviously not a fan of race baiting, I thought it was quite a clever way of getting onto a lot of screens the suggestion that Haley is Bangladeshi/ Muslim rather than an American Christian with Punjabi Sikh ancestry. There’s a lot more racists who’d be upset about the former than the latter.

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  10. Keith Preston Member
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    Leigh:

    Tom Meyer, Ed.:Did everyone catch this related bit of bile?

    Yes. That is absolutely disgusting.

    I swear, if we EVER have her on a Ricochet podcast again, my membership is over.  What an embarrassment she has become.

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  11. James Of England Inactive
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    TKC1101:

    James Of England: Is it really your view that there were no last minute shifts in New Hampshire or Iowa? As someone who talked to quite a lot of New Hampshire voters, that was not my impression.

    I admit my data is anecdotal, from people I know there who go on and on that the best way to get on national tv is to claim to be undecided. The folks I talked to say the last minute thing is overdone. They also say lying to pollsters is a local sport, particularly about minor candidates.

    Given their mischievous nature, they could be putting me on also.

    When you walk the same neighborhood over time, you can feel the changes when changes come. There are some people who lie to pollsters, but most Americans are bizarrely honest. Bizarre, because this includes choosing to give you accurate contact information when you ask for it, even though they know that the use of this information is to bother them about politics and they’re explicitly telling you that they don’t want to be bothered about politics. Sometimes they’ll check that you aren’t going to make calls to the number you’re taking down, you confirm that you’re totally going to make calls to it, and they look sad and then keep telling you the number.

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  12. Sash Member
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    Leigh:

    Tom Meyer, Ed.:Did everyone catch this related bit of bile?

    Yes. That is absolutely disgusting.

    Ann Coulter lost me a long time ago.  She just gets meaner and less rational as time goes on.

    Nikki Haley is great.  Ann not so much.

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  13. James Gawron Inactive
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    Tom Meyer, Ed.:Did everyone catch this related bit of bile?

    Tom,

    Ann is brilliant. She is a one woman army. It is hard to criticize her single-minded battle stance. Unfortunately, she goes over the top. I saw her today trying to defend Trump’s 911 truther-like statements. Normally, she is overwhelming and blows others off the stage. Even she couldn’t pull this off. She looked and sounded weak even trying.

    Regards,

    Jim

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  14. AUMom Member
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    Drusus:

    Leigh:

    Drusus: When both of your senators and your governor endorse the same candidate, assuming you like and respect them, that may give you pause.

    Rubio doesn’t have both senators — Lindsey Graham endorsed Bush. For what that’s worth. But he does have Trey Gowdy, and Gowdy plus Scott plus Haley equals something close to consensus in the state’s conservative leadership.

    I forget that! I guess I was thinking of Tim Scott and wishing he were Senator instead of Graham.

    Don’t we all, brother? Don’t we all wish Trey Gowdy and Tim Scott were the senators from our fine state?

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  15. Douglas Inactive
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    Keith Preston:

    I swear, if we EVER have her on a Ricochet podcast again, my membership is over. What an embarrassment she has become.

    That was one of the better podcasts we’ve had here in awhile.

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  16. Leigh Inactive
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    Just watched the endorsement speech.

    Maybe this one does matter.

    Just looked at the State homepage. Looks like they’re essentially writing Bush and Kasich out of the race… sorry, governors.

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  17. James Of England Inactive
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    Douglas:

    Keith Preston:

    I swear, if we EVER have her on a Ricochet podcast again, my membership is over. What an embarrassment she has become.

    That was one of the better podcasts we’ve had here in awhile.

    I enjoyed it. I really enjoy some of her books; Mugged, Treason, and parts of Adios America. That said, while they’re chock full of interesting facts, one of my more embarrassing moments on Ricochet was being called on a claim from Mugged by Mona Charen; Gov. Faubus introducing Gov. Clinton at the DNC. She said it didn’t happen, I went back and looked for it, and I think that she was right. Adios America likewise has great and accurate sections on Cruz’s lack of principles, but it also has a lot of claims about the development of immigration law that simply aren’t true.

    She’s often fantastic as an analyst and entertainer, but she’s often overly motivated to shock. I still remember watching her at CPAC when she called John Edwards a meatball. She was talking about something else entirely, stopped, paused, delivered her short “John Edwards is” line, and then went back to talking about other stuff. It was entirely clear that she’d planned to say her shocking thing, hadn’t found a place to segue into it, but wasn’t going to let that stop her.

    I’d disagree with Ricochet if they dropped her because she isn’t interesting. I’d understand if she was dropped because of the reputational risk.

    It seems pretty clear to me that she’s no more racist in this line than she was homophobic about John Edwards, though, and we let her on (long) after that. In both cases, she was saying what she thought would be helpful for a political cause she supported. When she said it about John Edwards, I felt like it was an own goal, but she was definitely on my team. I was happy to forgive her, given my gratitude for her take down of the 9/11 widows. I kinda feel like I should be willing to extend the same forgiveness when she’s ugly against a candidate that I like (and his supporters).

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  18. Mike LaRoche Inactive
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    Leigh:

    Tom Meyer, Ed.:Did everyone catch this related bit of bile?

    Yes. That is absolutely disgusting.

    Well, Nikki Haley insulted a lot of people when she signed on to that pogrom against the Confederate battle flag last year. As one of those “sons of the Confederacy,” I found *that* disgusting.

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  19. Sabrdance Member
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    James Of England:

    Douglas:

    Keith Preston:

    I swear, if we EVER have her on a Ricochet podcast again, my membership is over. What an embarrassment she has become.

    That was one of the better podcasts we’ve had here in awhile.

    It seems pretty clear to me that she’s no more racist in this line than she was homophobic about John Edwards, though, and we let her on (long) after that. In both cases, she was saying what she thought would be helpful for a political cause she supported. When she said it about John Edwards, I felt like it was an own goal, but she was definitely on my team. I was happy to forgive her, given my gratitude for her take down of the 9/11 widows. I kinda feel like I should be willing to extend the same forgiveness when she’s ugly against a candidate that I like (and his supporters).

    We have found an area where I am less tolerant than James.  I read Treason in high school, and while I appreciate the dismantling of many of the Cold War myths that salve the fellow-travelers’ souls, Coulter remains too cavalier with the facts to trust -and I find myself instead relying on the likes of Ron Radosh.  But more people know Coulter, and so the landmines keep getting re-laid.  She is berserker -if she could be aimed at the enemy, I’d be more considerate, but she is uncontrollable.

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  20. Lucy Pevensie Inactive
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    Tom Meyer, Ed.:Did everyone catch this related bit of bile?

    Wow. Just wow.

    I am happy to say that I lost my respect for Ann Coulter back when she was to the left of me and fawning all over Mitt Romney and I had massive reservations.  Now I can just dismiss her completely.

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  21. Spin Inactive
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    Tom Meyer, Ed.:Did everyone catch this related bit of bile?

    All of a sudden my “little brown men” comment doesn’t seem so far fetched, does it?

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  22. Concretevol Thatcher
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    Mike LaRoche: Well, Nikki Haley insulted a lot of people when she signed on to that pogrom against the Confederate battle flag last year. As one of those “sons of the Confederacy,” I found *that* disgusting.

    I’m not from SC…it was their decision.  The only thing that disgusted me about the whole show was that so many “lovers of tolerance” wanted to chime in on what SC should do.  All told I thought she and the state handled it all pretty damn well.

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  23. Concretevol Thatcher
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    Douglas:

    Keith Preston:

    I swear, if we EVER have her on a Ricochet podcast again, my membership is over. What an embarrassment she has become.

    That was one of the better podcasts we’ve had here in awhile.

    Do you mean the episode where she couldn’t bring herself to reassure Rob and Peter that Trump actually is a conservative?  It was definitely one of the more revealing podcasts, that’s true.

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  24. Mate De Inactive
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    Ann Coulter should stick to writing her very well researched books. She gets insane and irrational when she delves into electoral politics, and loses her audience.

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  25. Mate De Inactive
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    Also as podcasts go I kind of like the ones will all different viewpoints, this is why I like listening to Steven Crowder he’ll put all sorts on and Gavin McInnes who puts truly insane people on his show. I don’t agree with any of them but I like hearing all sorts of different points of view. But isn’t that the point of podcasting, to have folks who you may not hear on regular radio?

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  26. Layla Inactive
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    Trump on Haley, every bit as articulate as ever:

    “Yeah it’s not good,” he said. “It’s not good. First of all, she’s very weak on illegal immigration. Very weak. Very, very weak. She’s very weak on illegal immigration. You can’t have that. We need strong, strong immigration policies.”

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  27. Tom Meyer, Ed. Member
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    Layla:

    “Yeah it’s not good,” he said. “It’s not good. First of all, she’s very weak on illegal immigration. Very weak. Very, very weak. She’s very weak on illegal immigration. You can’t have that. We need strong, strong immigration policies.”

    That’s a beautiful argument. An attractive argument. The best. Not like the kind you get from losers like Jeb or Rand.

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  28. James Gawron Inactive
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    Tom Meyer, Ed.:

    Layla:

    “Yeah it’s not good,” he said. “It’s not good. First of all, she’s very weak on illegal immigration. Very weak. Very, very weak. She’s very weak on illegal immigration. You can’t have that. We need strong, strong immigration policies.”

    That’s a beautiful argument. An attractive argument. The best. Not like the kind you get from losers like Jeb or Rand.

    Tom,

    Ahhhh, the use of the doubled adjective with full repetition of unformed sentences. Brilliant!!!

    Regards,

    Jim

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  29. Concretevol Thatcher
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    Layla:Trump on Haley, every bit as articulate as ever:

    “Yeah it’s not good,” he said. “It’s not good. First of all, she’s very weak on illegal immigration. Very weak. Very, very weak. She’s very weak on illegal immigration. You can’t have that. We need strong, strong immigration policies.”

    This is a great great observation because governors have so much to do with federal immigration policy.  A lot of people say this is the best most classy argument ever argued.  Some of the smartest people say that it is the best argument.

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  30. Leigh Inactive
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    Mike LaRoche:

    Leigh:

    Well, Nikki Haley insulted a lot of people when she signed on to that pogrom against the Confederate battle flag last year. As one of those “sons of the Confederacy,” I found *that* disgusting.

    Nikki Haley said about people with your view:

    For many people in our state, the flag stands for traditions that are noble. Traditions of history, of heritage, and of ancestry.

    The hate filled murderer who massacred our brothers and sisters in Charleston has a sick and twisted view of the flag. In no way does he reflect the people in our state who respect and, in many ways, revere it. Those South Carolinians view the flag as a symbol of respect, integrity, and duty. They also see it as a memorial, a way to honor ancestors who came to the service of their state during time of conflict. That is not hate, nor is it racism.

    The flag will always be a part of the soil of South Carolina.

    To compare that with Coulter’s bile does not help your case.

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