Ugh. If Only Meyer Had Ever Read…

 

shutterstock_189290039A great many men have been dubbed, “The Last Man to Know Everything.” Indeed, the epithet is apparently a mildly popular sub-genre of biography. Well, I don’t know everything or anything close to it. Never will, either, which — depending on the mood — is either depressing or exciting. Regardless, I have personal and professional reasons to want to learn more stuff about things, particularly on subjects for which I’m either ignorant or poorly informed.

So, Ricochet, here’s your chance to influence this pundit’s thinking and/or make me a better human being: my next book will be chosen by you, based on whichever suggestion receives the most likes in this thread, and I will write at least one post on the subject. The winning selection must be new to me, in English, be under 400 pages, and be available for less than $25 through Amazon or iBook. Fiction, non-fiction, philosophy, history, science, biography, religion … I’m yours to influence.

For background, I was a History and English double major at a school with a reasonably traditional curriculum in those departments and my interests since have tended towards science and economics. For pleasure, I tend to read historical and science fiction, and I’m a late convert to comic books/graphic novels. For more detailed reference, my Goodreads account is a reasonably accurate account of my reading since I created it in 2009 (there are earlier entries, but they were added after the fact, usually to round-out series).

So, Ricochet, have it at. Set me straight. Educate me.

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  1. Quake Voter Inactive
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    For insight into the world I vaguely recollect existing outside Ricochet, Jonathan Haidt’s The Righteous Mind:  Why Good People Are Divided By Politics And Religion is a daily guide.

    Within the Ricochet world, it is indispensable, especially as Trump storms pass over the landscape.

    How powerful is this book?  With it as a shield one can descend into the comments pit of the Daily Kos and emerge saner and more knowledgeable.

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  2. Owen Findy Inactive
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    Quake Voter: With it as a shield one can descend into the comments pit of the Daily Kos and emerge saner and more knowledgeable.

    I have Haidt’s book, but haven’t read it, yet.  Thanks for this helpful observation.

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  3. Michael Brehm Lincoln
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    I’m going to throw a curve ball: Perdido Street Station by China Mieville. It’s a bizarre fantasy novel from a few years back. Not to give too much away, it’s about a back-alley scientist tasked with restoring flight to a wingless Garuda (bird person based off the Indian deity), his scarab-headed girlfriend who is a sculptor given a daunting commission from a violent mob boss, and a moth. It is set in a fantastic city that seems to be comprised equal parts Dickensian London, Kowloon Walled City, and Mos Eisley. I would be very much interested to know your impressions if you read this book, Tom.

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  4. Tenacious D Inactive
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    Tenacious D: For something closer to your regular interests, I’d suggest more Neal Stephenson.

    Oops, missed the criteria of under 400 pages!

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  5. Trink Coolidge
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    Herbert E. Meyer:The World of Yesterday, by Stephan Zweig.

    Zweig, the son of a wealthy Jewish industrialist in Vienna, was one of Europe’s most famous writers in the years just before World War I and in the decades that followed. He wrote short stories, plays, essays, even opera librettos.

    He was aghast at how his beloved, high-culture Austria could descend into the madness of World War I, along with Europe’s other powers. And he watched it happen again in the late 1930s. He devoted his life to the issue of “culture” and avoiding political insanity.

    He was forced out of his home in Salzburg by the Nazis, lived in London for a while, then finally settled with his wife in Brazil to wait out the catastrophe of World War II.

    The World of Yesterday is partly autobiography, but mostly it’s a brilliant account of Europe descending into chaos. It paints a remarkable picture of how this happened, and what the effect of political madness is on ordinary people. It’s just brilliant.

    Zweig finished writing The World of Yesterday in 1942. He took his manuscript to the local post office, sent it off to his publisher in New York — then went home, where he and his wife committed suicide.

    As I was reading your review I was finding it very compelling – and then I literally gasped out loud when I read about his death.    Why?!

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  6. A-Squared Inactive
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    Tenacious D: Oops, missed the criteria of under 400 pages!

    There goes the Shelby Foote trilogy on the Civil War.

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  7. MJBubba Member
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    Chuckles recommended the Gospel of John.   I concur.   You can read it on-line here:

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+1&version=ESV

    I saw some really spiritually messed-up stuff in your Goodreads list.

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  8. MJBubba Member
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    I have a history book recommendation.  This is written for 8th Grade homeschool kids.   It is an easy read, and it is compelling history.   You will be amazed.  The World of Captain John Smith, by Genevieve Foster:

    http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/41857.The_World_of_Captain_John_Smith

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  9. A-Squared Inactive
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    Owen Findy:Two books that gave me a radically-different, non-Western way of looking at things were Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, by Robert Pirsig, and The Book, by Alan Watts.

    I started to write up ZAAMM for the “Books that literally changed your life” thread last week, but it got away from me.  But I actually found Pirsig’s second book, Lila, to be a more interesting read.  I routinely think of its discussion of evolution being a constant battle between dynamic and static energy when contemplating current political battles between radicals pushing for change and those seeking to preserve what is best about our culture (particularly the SSM debate).

    I found “The Tao of Physics” to be fascinating read.  It talks about modern quantum science starts to resemble the Eastern view of the universe.

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  10. Mark Coolidge
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    Have you read any Raymond Chandler?  If not, you really can’t consider yourself well-read.  Try Farewell, My Lovely.

    “I needed a drink, I needed a lot of life insurance, I needed a vacation, I needed a home in the country. What I had was a coat, a hat and a gun. I put them on and went out of the room.”

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  11. Herbert E. Meyer Member
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    Reply to Trink:

    No one knows for sure why Zweig committed suicide, but the general assumption is that he suffered from extreme depression; he had lost all hope that the Europe of peace, of humanism, of culture in the finest sense — in other words, The World of Yesterday — could ever be restored.

    Incidentally, there is no relationship whatever between Stefan Zweig and Stephanie Zweig, who wrote a wonderful memoir entitled Nowhere in Africa.  It’s about how her German/Jewish family survived World War II by living in Kenya.  The book was a huge hit in post-war Germany, and was made into a wonderful film.  It’s pure coincidence that the names of these two great memoirists are nearly the same.

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  12. Owen Findy Inactive
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    A-Squared: But I actually found Pirsig’s second book, Lila, to be a more interesting read.

    Thanks for that.  I have the book, but couldn’t get into it.  I’ll give it another try.

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  13. MJBubba Member
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    Right Ho, Jeeves

    by P.G. Wodehouse

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  14. jzdro Member
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    Herbert E. Meyer: the general assumption is that he suffered from extreme depression; he had lost all hope that the Europe of peace, of humanism, of culture in the finest sense — in other words, The World of Yesterday — could ever be restored.

    From the final chapter, “The Agony of Peace:

    No experience in life is more spectral than when that which one has thought long since dead and buried, again advances on one, unannounced, in the same form and shape.  The summer of 1939 had come. . . 

    . . . Never in my life had I been so cruelly conscious of man’s helplessness against world events.

    It seems likely that his depression was due to combined feelings of responsibility (in the sense of duty) and helplessness.

    Thank you, Mr. Meyer, for this recommendation, so apt.

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  15. MJBubba Member
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    The Ponder Heart

    by Eudora Welty

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  16. St. Salieri Member
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    Two late 19th century novels that help explain the modern world, and read well – they are such accurate depictions of their worlds that they now function as historic documents as well as historical-fiction.  Plus they have great characters:

    The Damnation of Theron Ware by Harold Frederic.  It is the tale of a young Methodist minister in upstate New York, naive, idealistic, a touch self-ish and slowly shedding his childhood fundamentalist religion – he has a bright mind and through a series of accidental meetings is led into the company of cynical, well-educated, and progressive liberals circa 1895.  The result is a mixture of comedy and tragedy.  Most critics think the book is a condemnation of 19th century conservative American Protestantism and small town bigotry.  Trust me, it isn’t.  Those things come in for their share of criticism, but that’s not the point, not if you have eyes to see and ears to hear.

    The second is The Marrow of Tradition by Charles Chesnutt.  A novel about post-reconstruction race relations in a small southern town.  Part murder mystery, part social commentary, it nevers bores, though the ending is a little pat.  I’ll leave it at that, to say more is to ruin it.

    Both books feature intensely intelligent and interesting characters who are deftly drawn, clear uncluttered elegant prose, and honest reporting of a world in a period of change, that gave birth to where we are today.

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  17. Tom Meyer, Ed. Member
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    Western Chauvinist:On religion and current events (because he speaks to the times in a way I found astonishingly relevant, given he’s an early 20th century author): Orthodoxy by G.K. Chesterton.

    I probably need to give Chesterton another shot. I think I have a copy of Orthodoxy around.

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  18. A-Squared Inactive
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    Owen Findy:

    A-Squared: But I actually found Pirsig’s second book, Lila, to be a more interesting read.

    Thanks for that. I have the book, but couldn’t get into it. I’ll give it another try.

    I probably should have said, easier read.  I’ve highly recommended ZAAMM to several friends, and none of them have been able to finish it (and I’ve thought less of them ever since, but that is another story).

    I will say I found his philosophical musings in Lila to have more practical application that his mental breakdown inducing Metaphysics of Quality from ZAAMM.

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  19. St. Salieri Member
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    Second/third the recommendation to read Stefan Zweig.

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  20. Tom Meyer, Ed. Member
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    Chuckles:However, notably absent are some of biggest titles of all time. You mention religious books, but I do not see Pilgrim’s Progress, by John Bunyan (never out of print, translated into over 200 languages, considered one of the most significant books of English religious literature).

    That’s actually a gap in my reading. One I should probably remedy.

    I will not mention the all-time best seller, but at least read the Gospel of John!

    Read. Beautiful.

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  21. Tom Meyer, Ed. Member
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    Herbert E. Meyer:Zweig finished writing The World of Yesterday in 1942. He took his manuscript to the local post office, sent it off to his publisher in New York — then went home, where he and his wife committed suicide.

    Yeech, dad.

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  22. Jim Kearney Member
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    Give Tom a break. It’s Spring. Baseball Prospectus 2016.

    Don’t know about you, but so much serious subject matter around here can be a bit of a downer sometimes. Terrorism. Abortion. Vitriolic debates. Obama plotting to ruin Scalia’s legacy before he’s buried. And I’ll bet some of you aren’t crazy about the apparent inverse correlation between the Ricochet Polls and the national ones.

    So let’s give Tom a breather, and set him up with what he needs to preview the upcoming MLB season. Then those who win their fantasy baseball leagues off his draft advice can upgrade their Ricochet memberships.

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  23. Tom Meyer, Ed. Member
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    Chuckles:For biographies, unless I missed it in your list, try McCullough’s John Adams.

    I’m surprised that’s not in there. Read it probably in 2008. Superb book, and I’ve also got the Jefferson/Adams letters. If you’ve never been to Peacefield, it’s a great visit.

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  24. Tom Meyer, Ed. Member
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    @tommeyer

    jpark:

    Paul Revere’s Ride or Washington’s Crossing by David Hackett Fischer are both well done histories in which narrative is not lost.

    Did the latter on audio at some point, but not the former. Which I probably should.

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  25. Tom Meyer, Ed. Member
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    Richard Fulmer:There are no books by Thomas Sowell in your reading list; probably an oversight. However, if you actually haven’t read any of his stuff, you’re in for a mental feast. Sowell has a genius for making complex subjects crystal clear. Even his deepest book, Knowledge and Decisions, can be understood by mere mortals.

    I regret to say that you’re correct. I’ve read a fair number of Sowell’s articles, but never any of his books… which is rather embarrassing.

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  26. Tom Meyer, Ed. Member
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    Mark:The Dream of Scipio by Iain Pears. Historical fiction. Great writing and history. Very thought provoking about civilization v barbarism, the intended consequences of actions and the unintended consequences and how difficult it is to tell the difference. Best of all, the author doesn’t tell you what you should conclude.  This’ll tell you a little more about it.

    Mark, how did this not come up when we met in Manchester!? I’m a huge Pears fan and have all of his major works and about half of the Art History Mysteries.

    As much as I loved the others, I agree that Scipio is the finest; it was actually the first book I gave my wife to read when we started dating. A truly marvelous work.

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  27. Tom Meyer, Ed. Member
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    MJBubba:Right Ho, Jeeves

    by P.G. Wodehouse

    Long ago read and cherished. :)

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  28. Tom Meyer, Ed. Member
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    Owen Findy:Several collections of essays on science (and, I believe, one on science and art) by Jacob Bronowski greatly improved my understanding of science.

    I’ve watched The Ascent of Man multiple times and read A Sense of the Future last year. Bronowski was an amazing man with a wonderful, wonderful mind.

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  29. Tom Meyer, Ed. Member
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    So, based on likes so far, Chesterton is ahead.

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  30. Herbert E. Meyer Member
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    Tom, if you’re going to dive more deeply into G K Chesterton, read The Man Who Was Thursday.  It’s a remarkable piece of imagination.

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