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Perhaps this Man Should Not Be President of the United States
Okay, folks, all kidding aside, this Trump thing has gone too far.
Tim Mak is a good reporter. I was once on a press junket with him, and I saw someone who took a great deal of care to get the facts right. This piece — ostensibly about rumors that Donald Trump raped his ex-wife, Ivana — contains what I trust to be an accurate quote from Michael Cohen, special counsel at The Trump Organization:
Cohen acknowledged Monday that he has not read the entire deposition but said he had read the two relevant pages of it, including the rape accusation.
“It’s not the word that you’re trying to make it into,” Cohen told The Daily Beast, saying Ivana Trump was talking about how “she felt raped emotionally … She was not referring to it [as] a criminal matter, and not in its literal sense, though there’s many literal senses to the word.”
Cohen added that there is no such thing, legally, as a man raping his wife. “You cannot rape your spouse,” he said. “There’s very clear case law.” …
Trump’s lawyer then changed tactics, lobbing insults and threatening a lawsuit if a story was published.
“I will make sure that you and I meet one day while we’re in the courthouse. And I will take you for every penny you still don’t have. And I will come after your Daily Beast and everybody else that you possibly know,” Cohen said. “So I’m warning you, tread very [redacted by Ricochet’s editors] lightly, because what I’m going to do to you is going to be [redacted by Ricochet’s editors] disgusting. You understand me?”
“You write a story that has Mr. Trump’s name in it, with the word ‘rape,’ and I’m going to mess your life up … for as long as you’re on this frickin’ planet … you’re going to have judgments against you, so much money, you’ll never know how to get out from underneath it,” he added. …
[Trump’s attorney] said that “there is nothing reasonable about you wanting to write a story about somebody’s usage of the word ‘rape,’ when she’s talking [about how] she didn’t feel emotionally satisfied.”
“Though there’s many literal senses to the word, if you distort it, and you put Mr. Trump’s name there onto it, rest assured, you will suffer the consequences. So you do whatever you want. You want to ruin your life at the age of 20? You do that, and I’ll be happy to serve it right up to you,” he added.
The joke has gone too far. We’ve heard enough from Donald Trump.
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It…is…not…murder, woman. It is a duel. Voluntary. Comprehende?
You’ve moved from insulting a man’s character–character assassination, in your phrase–to calling his brief, tentative speech idiotic. He has said nothing against you to warrant any such behavior, if it’s possible to warrant it. This, of course, is not hypocrisy–because your kind of man is only supposed to be able to kill people with a gun if they disagree, not to argue anything. But in worlds not so fantastic & brutal, you do have to show some self-control & courtesy. As an advertisment for manly honor, you’re only showing that it would mean humiliating everyone with whom you might disagree. Congrats & for shame-
Claire, are we at the end of discussing anything substantial on this thread?
It’s the summer of 2015. The entire Presidential race is a sideshow that no one except the politically obsessed cares about until next year. Sound and fury signifying nothing. I’m amazed people are this worked up over an idiot with a possum on his head a full year before any of it matters. He won’t be the nominee. He won’t be a threat to anybody in 2016.
It’s difficult for me to believe your last sentence was made without tongue firmly planted in cheek.
Why pull the plug on Trump stories now? This seems to just be getting good. I’d rather continue to watch and see where this leads. He seems to be bringing out the worst in some people.
Edit: Correction – a lot of people.
Remember a Mr. Perot-
And….. Proof of thesis:
https://www.commentarymagazine.com/2015/07/27/donald-trump-polls-despair/
This doesn’t get better until professional republicans get potty trained.
Ivana is endorsing Donald Trump. How will Claire take this? ;-)
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ivana-trump-rejects-rape-allegations-article-1.2306290
I’m not sure I understand the context of this statement, but I am equally frightened that Trump has a campaign associate who will talk like this, publicly.
Dime, she’s objecting to the lawyer’s response, not buying the allegations.
Whose law? If the law society becomes so feminized that men cannot defend their honor, it is bad law and a bad society.
Let there be no misunderstanding here, I am blaming you and all womenkind for this state of affairs. You have no idea how men think about this matter. None, nada. You can’t defend yourself, physically, so you eschew violence. Fine. But we can, and we put a very high value on defending our honor. If you look at the entirety of history, you will know that this has always been true. Men want to defend their honor above life, consistently. Get it? Seriously, get it? Burr and Hamilton, get it? Andrew Jackson with bullets in his chest from defending the honor of his wife, get it?
If you women want to deal with these matters with earnest conversation, a gaggle of lawyers and conflict resolution and anger management specialists sitting around a table and talking it out, holding hands and hugging each other afterwards, Fine.
Please don’t prescribe for men that which makes you comfortable, because we are not like you. If you don’t respect this admonition, then you can forget about the prospects for this country, because it was founded, and can only be maintained, by Men. M..E..N.
Trump is like the cow catcher in the long train of Republican presidential wannabes. The Democrats and even a few Republicans are throwing cows and whatever they can in the train’s path trying to derail the train. If they can knock off the cow catcher, the rest of the train will soon derail. They only need to get Trump to back off and quit and the rest will be properly intimidated. But our train is strong. Trump should inspire the rest of the field. The main stream media is losing its mojo.
Codevilla, referring to the professional political class, says in the article Pseudo linked: They fear the rise of an un-intimidated leader more graceful and precise than Trump, someone whose vision is fuller but who is even more passionate…
If Codevilla is correct that such a person would be even more dangerous to the ruling class, why doesn’t Cruz get more traction than Trump?
You might be quite surprised.
So change the title to Trump’s lawyer should not be president.
I will just note here that we outlawed dueling in this country before women got the vote.
Manfred, Claire is a martial arts expert. Most men would last about 15 seconds against her.
That would work, if his lawyer became his ex-lawyer.
Speak for yourself, buddy. Next thing you will tell me is that all those women actors who kick major you-know-what in films these days are authentic, right.
PS. We need another thread to discuss the prevailing trend just mentioned. Why is it that theater goers want to see such fanciful stuff – women who couldn’t punch their way out of a paper bag in real life playing parts where they regularly dominate male opponents effortlessly? What is going on here? Go look at, “The Quiet Man” and compare with today’s fare in movies and explain to me what is in the collective psyche today that finds this…gratifying.
It does give one pause, but it sounds credible to me. What is it that Conservatives go to defend this idiot?
It’s the ugliest thing I’ve seen about conservatives in a long time. I suppose fear & anger bring out the ugliness in most of us, but supporting a petty evil would-be gangster?
Because he’s not the genuine article.
You guys can do better. You deserve better.
I just want to wake up.
I am not defending him, as much pointing out the ugly lengths people are going to for no other reason than to be ugly.
Has this thread actually devolved to an argument on who can win a karate fight between Claire and Manfred?
@Manfred: your hairy chest beating is impressing exactly no one.
Who are the three people who Liked this comment?!
Sheesh.
(Sorry, Manfred, didn’t mean to go all chick on you.)
(Seriously. Who invited this guy?)
I hope so because it would take this thread to 11. If we’re going to hyperbolically hyperventilate about clown candidates a year in advance, why not go all in with the crazy?
Boy, you sure have the right stuff to take on the Democrats. I feel so much better knowing you are going to lead the charge…
So you’re saying this wouldn’t be the time to drop in my quip about women demanding suffrage and the rest of us have been suffering ever since?