Climate Wars Heat-up Again

 

j9CmoiHJ_400x400The American Physical Society (APS) — of which I am a member — is looking to revise its Climate Change Statement. Many scientific societies have decided to issue statements about global warming/climate change. Don’t ask me why they feel the need to do this.

The last statement issued by the APS in 2007 was such a disaster that they had to backpedal in 2010 with a convoluted explanation of why it didn’t say what everyone thought it said. This time around, they convened a panel of experts headed up by Steve Koonin, formerly of Caltech and recently an undersecretary in the Dept. of Energy in the Obama administration. Koonin held a workshop last year to try work out the text of the new statement. Subsequently, Koonin quit the panel responsible for the new statement (Panel on Public Affairs – POPA) and published the opinion piece “Climate Science Is Not Settled” in the Wall Street Journal. Judging by that op-ed, things didn’t work out as he hoped.

Now APS is asking for comments about the new proposed statement. It’s unlikely that member comments made to APS directly will be made public, so Judy Curry — Georgia Tech climatologist and now-famous global warming apostate — is collecting comments from APS members in her blog. Mostly skeptics and contrarians are posting. The comments make for amusing reading.

Scientific opposition to global warming alarmism is growing, but this beast is proving to be hard to kill.

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  1. user_1184 Inactive
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    @MarkWilson

    Chuck Enfield:After reading responses to my comment, I’d like to thank everybody for not pointing out that I don’t know the difference between accept and except. Although it may be even more embarrassing to discover it on my own without the desensitizing effect of snide remarks to soften the blow. It’s like the difference between getting pegged in the nose by a basketball and getting punch in the nose during a fight. Rage and adrenaline make the latter hurt less.

    So next time do me the favor of ridiculing me.

    Obviously you meant punched.  How humiliating.

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  2. RPD Inactive
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    @RPD

    drlorentz:

    Those are good questions that the Warmists don’t seem to want to address. As for the graph and past climate variability, don’t get too cavalier. Some of those past climate variations were pretty nasty. Another ice age (like the one that ended about 10,000 years ago in the graph) would wreak havoc. So yeah, the climate has been changing for millennia. Some of those changes would be pretty hard to take.

    I worry more about ice ages than warm periods. As you can see from the graph, warm periods are brief periods that punctuate lengthy ice ages. You can be flip about it if you don’t mind having parts of the US and all of Canada covered in ice sheets thousands of feet thick. Makes it tough to grow crops. The good news is that the sea level would drop a few hundred feet, thereby making lots of new real estate.

    I completely agree of course. The point is that doubt there is much humans can do to alter the trajectory by much, and take comfort in that it appears to take a few thousand years to get through a cycle so I have high hopes of missing the next ice age. Unless we figure out immortality that is.

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  3. user_358258 Inactive
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    @RandyWebster

    Mark Wilson:

    Chuck Enfield:After reading responses to my comment, I’d like to thank everybody for not pointing out that I don’t know the difference between accept and except. Although it may be even more embarrassing to discover it on my own without the desensitizing effect of snide remarks to soften the blow. It’s like the difference between getting pegged in the nose by a basketball and getting punch in the nose during a fight. Rage and adrenaline make the latter hurt less.

    So next time do me the favor of ridiculing me.

    Obviously you meant punched. How humiliating.

    Punch in the nose would be pretty humiliating, too.  You’d probably sneeze all over the place.

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  4. user_252791 Inactive
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    @ChuckEnfield

    Randy Webster: Punch in the nose would be pretty humiliating, too. You’d probably sneeze all over the place.

    Isn’t that how you fought where you grew up? It’s kinda like being water boarded. No fun.

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  5. Trink Coolidge
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    @Trink

    Thank you for your honorable and courageous stand.  And yes – this beast is scary.  The next few years as we enter solar minimum could be very interesting.

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