Amnesty and America’s Bottom Line—D.C. McAllister

 

As an Investor’s Business Daily editorial said at the beginning of this year, major businesses are calling for immigration reform because it’s good for their bottom lines even though it’s bad for America’s. 

Politicians and big business have colluded in the push for amnesty: “Businesses like cheap labor. And politicians like political contributions from business. So they’ve formed an unholy alliance to push the idea that costs for amnesty for illegals would outweigh the benefits. But they don’t.”

According to the Heritage Foundation, illegal immigrant households cost U.S. taxpayers $55 billion per year. Some argue that those costs would go away after amnesty because illegals would become taxpayers. But that doesn’t pan out. The costs would actually go up to nearly $160 billion. And that’s just for illegals already here. 

Why would the costs go up? Because “amnesty would provide unlawful households with access to over 80 means-tested welfare programs, ObamaCare, Social Security and Medicare. The fiscal deficit for each household would soar.”

So why do businesses want amnesty even though it will hurt America? The bottom line is cheap labor. They want to increase the flow of low-skilled workers willing to work for minimum wage and “do the job Americans won’t do.”

But why won’t Americans do those jobs? It’s because they get more money from welfare benefits than going out and working.

It is isn’t that there are jobs Americans won’t do. It’s that there are jobs Americans on welfare don’t want to do.

If we open the borders so that businesses can have their cheap labor (and politicians can continue to get their checks from big business), what happens when all those new workers figure out that they can get more money sitting on the couch rather than working minimum wage jobs?

Human nature is what it is. If we already have a bunch of people unwilling to work because government benefits make it easier not to, it’s logical to assume that immigrants will one day do the same. What happens to our deficits then? What happens to the country?

Both big business and its allied politicians need to look past their short-term interests and consider the future implications of what they’re asking for—because it ain’t pretty. If they don’t, one can only assume they care more about the bottom line than the future of the country.

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  1. rico Inactive
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    Mike H:

    rico:

    Mike H:

    rico:

    If you are worried about crime, disallow males age 19 – 30 unless they can sufficiently prove they are docile, since they are the vast majority of (especially violent) criminals.

    Wait a minute. A presumption of guilt? How can you endorse that if you are at the same time saying that they have a ‘human right’ to come here? Wouldn’t this be a violation of their human rights?

    Of course it would. You asked for practical ways to do it. I’m saything there are ways to allow more immigration that would mitigate any fear you might have. I don’t agree with these things, but if it would allow more people to get here than currently can, I’d allow it.

    Mike,This is highly unprincipled considering that your argument for open borders is based on a principle: human rights. You are undermining your own argument

    No, I’m not, it’s called taking a secondary position. The right thing to do is open the borders. People don’t agree with that currently so lets decide what we can do to make the borders as open as possible.

    Isee. Tradingoneprincipleforanotherispartofnegotiating. I’mgladyouseethat’openborders’isimpractical.

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  2. Arahant Member
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    rico: Isee. Tradingoneprincipleforanotherispartofnegotiating. I’mgladyouseethat’openborders’isimpractical.

     You know that you can highlight just the last bit or one sentence and hit the quote button, and that’s all you get?  That way, you don’t have to squeeze everything into two words.

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  3. Mike H Inactive
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    rico:

    Mike H:

    No, I’m not, it’s called taking a secondary position. The right thing to do is open the borders. People don’t agree with that currently so lets decide what we can do to make the borders as open as possible.

    I see. Trading one principle for another is part of negotiating. I’m glad you see that ’openborders’ is impractical.

     Seriously? A willingness to negotiate means open borders itself is impractical? Meaning the practicality of a position is based on opponent’s willingness to accept it? You can’t believe this.

    Or do you mean it’s politically impractical? That’s obviously true. But I’m not trading principles by negotiating with an uneducated mob (typical voters who want bad policies) to maximize open immigration. I wouldn’t be giving anything up and I would be getting closer to the status I want.

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    Mike H:

    rico:

    Mike H:

    No, I’m not, it’s called taking a secondary position. The right thing to do is open the borders. People don’t agree with that currently so lets decide what we can do to make the borders as open as possible.

    I see. Trading one principle for another is part of negotiating. I’m glad you see that ’openborders’ is impractical.

    Seriously? A willingness to negotiate means open borders itself is impractical? Meaning the practicality of a position is based on opponent’s willingness to accept it? You can’t believe this.

     Is it really ‘open borders’ when you incorporate changes that are far more arbitrary (your proposed treatment of youg male adults) than current immigration laws? This shows that your ‘open borders’ is not only impractical, but also unprincipled.

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    Mike H:

    rico:

    Mike H:

    No, I’m not, it’s called taking a secondary position. The right thing to do is open the borders. People don’t agree with that currently so lets decide what we can do to make the borders as open as possible.

    I see. Trading one principle for another is part of negotiating. I’m glad you see that ’openborders’ is impractical.

    Or do you mean it’s politically impractical? That’s obviously true. But I’m not trading principles by negotiating with an uneducated mob (typical voters who want bad policies) to maximize open immigration. I wouldn’t be giving anything up and I would be getting closer to the status I want.

    With this comment, we can also add ‘elitest.’

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    Arahant:

    rico: Isee. Tradingoneprincipleforanotherispartofnegotiating. I’mgladyouseethat’openborders’isimpractical.

    You know that you can highlight just the last bit or one sentence and hit the quote button, and that’s all you get? That way, you don’t have to squeeze everything into two words.

     Thanks for the tip. I_tried_this_old_trick but it doesn’t seem to work in R>2.0.

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    rico:

    Mike H:

    rico:

    Mike H:

    No, I’m not, it’s called taking a secondary position. The right thing to do is open the borders. People don’t agree with that currently so lets decide what we can do to make the borders as open as possible.

    I see. Trading one principle for another is part of negotiating. I’m glad you see that ’openborders’ is impractical.

    Or do you mean it’s politically impractical? That’s obviously true. But I’m not trading principles by negotiating with an uneducated mob (typical voters who want bad policies) to maximize open immigration. I wouldn’t be giving anything up and I would be getting closer to the status I want.

    With this comment, we can also add ‘elitest.’

     It’s a good thing “elitist” isn’t a synonym for “wrong.” The Founders were elites, and tried their best to limit influence to those most likely to hold correct views.

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    Mike H:

    rico:

    Mike H:

    rico:

    Mike H:

    No, I’m not, it’s called taking a secondary position. The right thing to do is open the borders. People don’t agree with that currently so lets decide what we can do to make the borders as open as possible.

    I see. Trading one principle for another is part of negotiating. I’m glad you see that ’openborders’ is impractical.

    Or do you mean it’s politically impractical? That’s obviously true. But I’m not trading principles by negotiating with an uneducated mob (typical voters who want bad policies) to maximize open immigration. I wouldn’t be giving anything up and I would be getting closer to the status I want.

    With this comment, we can also add ‘elitest.’

    It’s a good thing “elitist” isn’t a synonym for “wrong.” The Founders were elites, and tried their best to limit influence to those most likely to hold correct views.

    Thank you Mike. With that, I humbly dismiss myself from this conversation.

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    Mike H: It’s a good thing “elitist” isn’t a synonym for “wrong.” The Founders were elites, and tried their best to limit influence to those most likely to hold correct views.

    That is pretty much correct; however, rather than the “correct views,” I would say to those with skin in the game, meaning an investment in the future.

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    Arahant:

    Mike H: It’s a good thing “elitist” isn’t a synonym for “wrong.” The Founders were elites, and tried their best to limit influence to those most likely to hold correct views.

    That is pretty much correct; however, rather than the “correct views,” I would say to those with skin in the game, meaning an investment in the future.

     I almost used “skin in the game,” I forget why I dropped it. I think skin in the game correlated with correct views at the time. Still does most likely, until people get FU money and want to be well liked by the media.

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