Harvard ‘Doxxing’ Truck

 

Accuracy in Media’s billboard truck drives on Mass Ave. in Cambridge.

Accuracy in Media has a truck driving around the Harvard campus (and other Ivy campuses now, too) with billboards flashing the names and photos of students who signed the anti-Israel petitions. Apparently the names are public record, as the Harvard Crimson published the petitions and their signatories. And AIM is updating them as more students sign and others withdraw their names.

I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, it doesn’t seem right if people have their names publicized who don’t want them publicized. Yet the students signed public petitions, and the far-left campus newspaper published their names, so I feel they hardly have grounds for complaint. Are they upset because they are realizing that they became open supporters of terrorism by signing?

What do you think?

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  1. Bob Thompson Member
    Bob Thompson
    @BobThompson

    What is a public petition other than a list of individual supporters of some subject that is then made public?

    Of course, Harvard students of today may not understand the meaning of English words.

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  2. Chuck Coolidge
    Chuck
    @Chuckles

    Seems to me that signing a public  petition but not wanting it to be known is a bit stupid.

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  3. Steve Fast Member
    Steve Fast
    @SteveFast

    AIM has shifted to parking the truck outside the (publicly available) home addresses of the student leaders of the signing organizations. They also purchased the domains of the student leaders of the groups and created pages.

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  4. Barfly Member
    Barfly
    @Barfly

    I don’t know much about AIM, except they’ve been around and in the trenches for a long time. I don’t think I’ve ever had a difference of opinion.

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  5. Steve Fast Member
    Steve Fast
    @SteveFast

    Here’s an example of a student leader’s new home page

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  6. Bob Thompson Member
    Bob Thompson
    @BobThompson

    Whoever thinks and acts as a leader of a public movement should take responsibility for the results.

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  7. EDISONPARKS Member
    EDISONPARKS
    @user_54742

    I suppose I have the same mixed feelings about the jag-offy concept of “doxxing”….

    However …. it seems to be the pro Israel-Left screwing with the uber-weirdo pro-Palestine Leftists ….

    So it’s hard not to just sit back and enjoy the intra-(D)Party fratricide.

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  8. TBA Coolidge
    TBA
    @RobtGilsdorf

    Legal but ethically nasty, this is an escalation in the coarsening of speech. We won’t like it when it is used against us. 

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  9. Steve Fast Member
    Steve Fast
    @SteveFast

    TBA (View Comment):

    Legal but ethically nasty, this is an escalation in the coarsening of speech. We won’t like it when it is used against us.

    It is just the right catching up to the left. Remember when all the signers of the pro-traditional marriage petition in California got doxxed?

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  10. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patriot) Member
    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patriot)
    @ArizonaPatriot

    Moderator Note:

    Impugning the motives of others as well as their integrity, instead of restricting your comments to the arguments at hand, is a personal attack.

    [Redacted]

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  11. Steve Fast Member
    Steve Fast
    @SteveFast

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):
    redacted

    Which of my principles am I advocating the violation of?

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  12. philo Member
    philo
    @philo

    No mixed feelings at all. Our American Liberties are wonderful things…use them or lose them.

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  13. TBA Coolidge
    TBA
    @RobtGilsdorf

    Steve Fast (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    Legal but ethically nasty, this is an escalation in the coarsening of speech. We won’t like it when it is used against us.

    It is just the right catching up to the left. Remember when all the signers of the pro-traditional marriage petition in California got doxxed?

    Yes, but this seems like a stronger doxxing. And while these are legally adults, they are…not very good at it yet. 

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  14. She Member
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    @She

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    redacted

    Once again, Jerry, don’t engage on the merits.  Begin by attacking your correspondent’s motivations, honesty, and sincerity, and work your way down from there.  Shameful.

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  15. philo Member
    philo
    @philo

    TBA (View Comment):

    Steve Fast (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    Legal but ethically nasty, this is an escalation in the coarsening of speech. We won’t like it when it is used against us.

    It is just the right catching up to the left. Remember when all the signers of the pro-traditional marriage petition in California got doxxed?

    Yes, but this seems like a stronger doxxing. And while these are legally adults, they are…not very good at it yet.

    The truck stunt as described is NOT doxxing.

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  16. Zafar Member
    Zafar
    @Zafar

    Steve Fast (View Comment):

    AIM has shifted to parking the truck outside the (publicly available) home addresses of the student leaders of the signing organizations.

    Where are these publicly available?

    They also purchased the domains of the student leaders of the groups and created pages.

    To what end, I wonder.  Encourage or discourage a diversity of views?

    From their website:

    Accuracy in Media uses citizen activism and investigative journalism to expose media bias, corruption, and public policy failings. Our organization empowers individuals to hold journalists as well as public and private officials accountable to achieve a well-informed free society.

     

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  17. Globalitarian Misanthropist Coolidge
    Globalitarian Misanthropist
    @Flicker

    New York Post:

    Man behind Ivy League ‘doxxing trucks’ has home searched by gun-toting SWAT team

    ByShannon ThalerPublished Oct. 27, 2023, 3:06 p.m. ET

    The president of Accuracy in Media — the group that deployed “doxxing trucks” to Ivy League schools mired in pro-Palestinian controversies — had his home searched by a cadre of rifle-toting SWAT officers in the early hours of Friday, The Post has learned.

    Accuracy in Media boss Adam Guillette was away from his North Florida home when he received a call from local authorities Friday notifying him that officers had searched his home around 1:30 a.m. after receiving a call falsely claiming that Guillette was at home and pointing a gun at his wife’s head. …

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  18. TBA Coolidge
    TBA
    @RobtGilsdorf

    Globalitarian Misanthropist (View Comment):

    New York Post:

    Man behind Ivy League ‘doxxing trucks’ has home searched by gun-toting SWAT team

    ByShannon ThalerPublished Oct. 27, 2023, 3:06 p.m. ET

    The president of Accuracy in Media — the group that deployed “doxxing trucks” to Ivy League schools mired in pro-Palestinian controversies — had his home searched by a cadre of rifle-toting SWAT officers in the early hours of Friday, The Post has learned.

    Accuracy in Media boss Adam Guillette was away from his North Florida home when he received a call from local authorities Friday notifying him that officers had searched his home around 1:30 a.m. after receiving a call falsely claiming that Guillette was at home and pointing a gun at his wife’s head. …

    Objections withdrawn. 

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  19. Zafar Member
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    @Zafar

    Globalitarian Misanthropist (View Comment):
    Accuracy in Media boss Adam Guillette was away from his North Florida home when he received a call from local authorities Friday notifying him that officers had searched his home around 1:30 a.m. after receiving a call falsely claiming that Guillette was at home and pointing a gun at his wife’s head. …

    Who could have predicted this?

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  20. philo Member
    philo
    @philo

    Globalitarian Misanthropist (View Comment):

    New York Post:

    Man behind Ivy League ‘doxxing trucks’ has home searched by gun-toting SWAT team

    ByShannon ThalerPublished Oct. 27, 2023, 3:06 p.m. ET

    The president of Accuracy in Media — the group that deployed “doxxing trucks” to Ivy League schools mired in pro-Palestinian controversies — had his home searched by a cadre of rifle-toting SWAT officers in the early hours of Friday, The Post has learned.

    Accuracy in Media boss Adam Guillette was away from his North Florida home when he received a call from local authorities Friday notifying him that officers had searched his home around 1:30 a.m. after receiving a call falsely claiming that Guillette was at home and pointing a gun at his wife’s head. …

    You know…I’m pretty much over the sanctimonious lectures about my “compromised” principles from cheerleaders for the side with none at all. Just sayin’…

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  21. Steve Fast Member
    Steve Fast
    @SteveFast

    Zafar (View Comment):

    Steve Fast (View Comment):

    AIM has shifted to parking the truck outside the (publicly available) home addresses of the student leaders of the signing organizations.

    Where are these publicly available?

    This is what still bugs me about the whole truck thing. I doubt Harvard makes the addresses of student leaders of organizations available on the internet. Did AIM search the phone book (if such a thing still exists)? Did they scrape them off the internet somewhere?

    While I enjoy the schadenfreude and turnabout-is-fair-play, I don’t really like it when they go digging around and attach information that should be private such as home addresses and photos to the names of people who signed an open letter. I realize we are in a take-no-prisoners war with the left, but I don’t like it.

     

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  22. Paul Stinchfield Member
    Paul Stinchfield
    @PaulStinchfield

    Globalitarian Misanthropist (View Comment):

    New York Post:

    Man behind Ivy League ‘doxxing trucks’ has home searched by gun-toting SWAT team

    ByShannon ThalerPublished Oct. 27, 2023, 3:06 p.m. ET

    The president of Accuracy in Media — the group that deployed “doxxing trucks” to Ivy League schools mired in pro-Palestinian controversies — had his home searched by a cadre of rifle-toting SWAT officers in the early hours of Friday, The Post has learned.

    Accuracy in Media boss Adam Guillette was away from his North Florida home when he received a call from local authorities Friday notifying him that officers had searched his home around 1:30 a.m. after receiving a call falsely claiming that Guillette was at home and pointing a gun at his wife’s head. …

    The left has been doing that for years.

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  23. Zafar Member
    Zafar
    @Zafar

    Steve Fast (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):

    Steve Fast (View Comment):

    AIM has shifted to parking the truck outside the (publicly available) home addresses of the student leaders of the signing organizations.

    Where are these publicly available?

    This is what still bugs me about the whole truck thing. I doubt Harvard makes the addresses of student leaders of organizations available on the internet. Did AIM search the phone book (if such a thing still exists)? Did they scrape them off the internet somewhere?

    Or they have a contact in Harvard admin.

    Doxxing is not per se illegal, but I think it may be an instance where the law lags behind what society needs.  I know that if one doxxes someone else on many many websites one gets booted promptly.

    While I enjoy the schadenfreude and turnabout-is-fair-play, I don’t really like it when they go digging around and attach information that should be private such as home addresses and photos to the names of people who signed an open letter. I realize we are in a take-no-prisoners war with the left, but I don’t like it.

    It’s not a great thing to normalise.  Just like limiting free speech on the basis of opinion.  Or ‘cancelling’ people.  These things usually end up biting everybody in the fundament, one way or another.

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  24. philo Member
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    @philo

    Steve Fast (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):

    Steve Fast (View Comment):

    AIM has shifted to parking the truck outside the (publicly available) home addresses of the student leaders of the signing organizations.

    Where are these publicly available?

    This is what still bugs me about the whole truck thing. I doubt Harvard makes the addresses of student leaders of organizations available on the internet. Did AIM search the phone book (if such a thing still exists)? Did they scrape them off the internet somewhere?

    While I enjoy the schadenfreude and turnabout-is-fair-play, I don’t really like it when they go digging around and attach information that should be private such as home addresses and photos to the names of people who signed an open letter. I realize we are in a take-no-prisoners war with the left, but I don’t like it.

    I understand the desire to have a conversation here about how you feel about it but – in my humble opinion – care should be taken to not make it something that it is not. This is not doxxing and this is not anything nefarious. To my simple aging mind, terms like “search” and “scrape” in your first paragraph simply mean “looked them up.” Nothing crazy there. Same with “digging” in the second paragraph. It all may all bug you and you may not like it but there is no real reason why the separate or combined information (signatures on an open letter and public address data) discussed here “should be private”.

    The fact that it is some little known organization doing it in this case may be newsworthy only because in cases where the party affiliations are reversed it is the major media outlets who do the “doxxing.” In that case, most people just shrug and call it news.

    Peace.

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  25. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    @SusanQuinn

    TBA (View Comment):
    Yes, but this seems like a stronger doxxing. And while these are legally adults, they are…not very good at it yet. 

    Hopefully they’ll learn from the experience.

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  26. Zafar Member
    Zafar
    @Zafar

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):
    Yes, but this seems like a stronger doxxing. And while these are legally adults, they are…not very good at it yet.

    Hopefully they’ll learn from the experience.

    Others will learn to keep quiet.  Isn’t that the objective?

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  27. TBA Coolidge
    TBA
    @RobtGilsdorf

    Zafar (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):
    Yes, but this seems like a stronger doxxing. And while these are legally adults, they are…not very good at it yet.

    Hopefully they’ll learn from the experience.

    Others will learn to keep quiet. Isn’t that the objective?

    They have an opportunity to clarify, double down, retract, or keep quiet. 

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  28. TBA Coolidge
    TBA
    @RobtGilsdorf

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):
    Yes, but this seems like a stronger doxxing. And while these are legally adults, they are…not very good at it yet.

    Hopefully they’ll learn from the experience.

    They will learn. I just don’t know what it is that they will learn. 

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  29. Bishop Wash Member
    Bishop Wash
    @BishopWash

    Last session the New Mexico legislature passed some horrendous laws to support baby killing. There’s a mechanism to get the laws on the ballot instead so everyone can vote on it, involving petitions. One of the guys at church decided not to sign because he didn’t want people at his daughter’s school searching the rolls, finding his name, and mistreating her. 

    I was surprised to see this at Harvard. It is giving them a taste of their own medicine. 

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  30. Zafar Member
    Zafar
    @Zafar

    Apparently some students have withdrawn their names from the statement – and their names and faces have been removed from the truck.  In case anybody was wondering, here’s the statement:

    We, the undersigned student organizations, hold the Israeli regime entirely responsible for all unfolding violence.

    Today’s events did not occur in a vacuum. For the last two decades, millions of Palestinians in Gaza have been forced to live in an open-air prison. Israeli officials promise to “open the gates of hell,” and the massacres in Gaza have already commenced.Palestinians in Gaza have no shelters for refuge and nowhere to escape. In the coming days, Palestinians will be forced to bear the full brunt of Israel’s violence.

    The apartheid regime is the only one to blame. Israeli violence has structured every aspect of Palestinian existence for 75 years. From systematized land seizures to routine air strikes, arbitrary detentions to military checkpoints, and enforced family separations to targeted killings, Palestinians have been forced to live in a state of death, both slow and sudden.

    Today, the Palestinian ordeal enters into uncharted territory. The coming days will require a firm stand against colonial retaliation. We call on the Harvard community to take action to stop the ongoing annihilation of Palestinians.

    Apart from too many commas, this doesn’t seem like a remarkable or radical document, agree with it or not.  It doesn’t call for violence, it doesn’t support Hamas.

    If it has resulted in job offers to signers being rescinded, that seems extremely strange to me.  It also suggests that AIM might be sued, which would be interesting.

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