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DeSantis Now Officially Worse Than Trump
As predicted by a whole lot of people, here it is:
MSNBC’s @JoyAnnReid: @RonDeSantis is running “the most openly fascist campaign I’ve ever seen.”
Lincoln Project’s @stuartpstevens: He’s “worse than Trump. [He] is a threat to what it means really to be an American, & I think we have to realize that, & address it accordingly.” pic.twitter.com/Wil9pvqKXw
— Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) June 27, 2023
No, I haven’t listened to the clip. Why on Earth would I? But remember when all those people said we need to hurry up and walk away from Trump because he’s hard to defend? Alright — go defend DeSantis. Not that I doubt people are doing so now, or will do so. But the territory will look awfully familiar, and I suspect that people will wish they had a little more help in the fighting-back department from their candidate.
Meet the new AntiChrist. Same as the old one.
Published in General
I recall the DeSantis Worse Than Trump! pieces started several months ago. But of course, now that he’s made it official, they’re going to be increasing.
Of the Lincoln Project said it, it must be true!
Waiting in the Dispatch to come out against him.
If DeSantis gets elected anyway, will the Lincoln Project move to another country to molest young people?
DeSantis is a good choice for Republicans, but I don’t see how he differs significantly from the 15 or 17 original Republican candidates who ran in 2016. Many of those candidates had the same positive not-Trump attributes as DeSantis–including being former governors in seven cases: Scott Walker, Bobby Jindal, Jeb Bush, Jim Gilmore, Chris Christie, Mike Huckabee, Rick Perry, and George Pataki.
The Democrats are as annoying now as they were back then. It seemed to me that people liked Trump because he yelled back. They wanted someone to express their frustration.
The DeSantis candidacy puzzles me because it seems as though nothing has changed. I wonder why his supporters think he can do what those other guys couldn’t. It’s an interesting political situation.
Analysis mode:
I would say that what has changed is Trump. First, he himself is older and different. Second, there’s a lot of water under that bridge now — even if he were identical to his 2016 self, the history puts things in a diferent light. He’s now an old fight, not a new one.
I remain fairly agnostic in the primary. That’s not a principled stand — I’m just queasy. I’ll be energetic in the general no matter what. For now… meh.
I don’t know if I could vote for a candidate that the Lincoln Project and the Dispatch didn’t hate. Having the Lincoln Project and the Dispatch hate you should be the minimum requirement to appear in the republican debates. Fascist used to mean State Capitalism. Now Progressive means State Capitalism, and Fascist means whoever we are not supposed to like.
Yeah
True, but I think his experiences as president vis-a-vis the destructive Democrats have made it more likely that voters will still want someone who yells back.
His age is a factor only if his VP pick is a weak choice. If it’s a strong choice, voters will get to express their anger at the Democrats by voting for Trump.
And he actually gained support from 2016 to 2020. He got 62 million votes in 2016; he got 74 million in 2020. Given the full court press the Democrats waged against him, that’s extraordinary.
Glenn Greenwald, heh:
1) Trump = Hitler.
2) DeSantis is worse, and even “more fascist,” than Trump…
3) Hitler is better than DeSantis.
Jonah’s already been ragging on DeSantis. And though the awful David French is no longer with The Dispatch, he, too, has been crying about DeSantis.
Track record of actually being on the offensive. Doing, not just talking about doing. (Because the talkers never seem to get around to the doing part.)
There you go.
Not Never Trump they are Never Conservative
DeSantis is literally worse than “literally worse than Hitler“!
Who do those brainless twits support? Any Republicans at all or are they with the Democrats?
Who do those brainless twits support?
Anyone who “falls in line with the Narrative” and covertly supports a Totalitarian government .
Yes, but then there is the Brett Favre vs Aaron Rodgers problem. Their career arcs intersected at some point and continued on in opposite directions: one nearing the end and the other just taking off. So much unnecessary churn and antagonism between them and between them and the organization, and that was with a three year intersection.
Mike Pence also has been attacking DeSantis.
https://flvoicenews.com/pence-says-desantis-attack-on-disney-follows-footsteps-of-the-radical-left/
Yeah, Pence is a straight-up… well, bad word.
Because he did a lot more for his state than the other 7 governors did for theirs, especially on Covid and the woke stuff.
Of course, 20 years ago they were saying Bush was Hitler. Somewhere Hitler is looking up going, “Come on, I’m way worse than these guys.”
I disagree with that assessment. I think some of them did an amazing job as governors. The issues were different (none of them were in office as governors during the pandemic), but the outcomes were just as good, in my opinion.
I like DeSantis. I just don’t understand his view of the Republican Party at this time.
Not sure I understand my own view of the RP at this time.
It’s complicated.
It’s all a matter of effectiveness. They think Ron Desantis will be effective at advancing conservatism so he must be made into the new Hitler. That’s all there is to it.
The Democrats’ attacks on the Republican Party, culminating in Biden’s Red Speech, seem to me to have frozen politics in time somehow.
Rather than impressing Republicans with how bad Trump is, the Democrats’ extremes seem to have had exactly the opposite effect.
That’s just my very very humble opinion. :) :)
In fact, if someone put me in charge of the next Republican Convention, I wouldn’t bother with expensive speeches and balloons. I’d just put a big sign on the stage that said, “Why Republicans Have to Win,” and then I’d play the Red Speech once each night and send the delegates on their way to their fun parties.
It would be a confident Keep Calm and Carry On moment for us.
Trump’s stupid tweets will not enervate America but the unbridled political corruption of the left will destroy us. Trump serves as an example of how the political left can and will destroy what has historically make America pretty great.
That old idiom ,“If you’re taking flak, you’re over the target” seems appropriate here.
I will moderate myself during the primary. Too attached and I risk deflation and bitterness when my guy doesn’t win: to indifferent and it is harder to ramp up for the general election. (Besides which, none of these guys are paying me.)
What I am not going to do is vote against the Republican candidate while trying to get other people to do the same.
“The insults of an enemy are a tribute to the brave”