The Proposal on the Table

 

“We’re being offered a deal: Accept radical gender ideology, drag for kids, porn in libraries, grooming in schools, compelled speech, the mutilation of minors, etc., and trans people will stop killing themselves and murdering others.” – Seth Dillon

People are largely familiar with the storyline about a crazy boyfriend or girlfriend who threatens to kill themselves if their significant other breaks off the relationship.  The current trans-mania is a variation on that theme, but takes it a step further.  Not only do we have to refrain from breaking up, but we have to positively affirm, pamper, pet, and celebrate the transgender community’s every moment and passing inclination.  We must give them the same obsessive approval that they give themselves or they will either kill themselves or, it turns out,  kill others.

A lot of this is based on the presupposition that human behavior is not an artifact of individual moral choices but is conditioned behavior that has been imposed upon human beings by “society” in the form of parents, teachers, economic conditions, etc.  On the heels of the murders in Nashville, the media is bending itself into a pretzel in order to prioritize concern for the feelings of the “transgender community.”

If the media has its way, the entire world will be under the thumb of the social equivalent of a raging crazy girlfriend, everyone kept in line by constant threats of suicide or violence.  That is the deal that’s presently on the table.

All of this is made possible by the intellectual battlefield preparation done over generations, during which millions of people have been indoctrinated with the view that human volition and free moral choice is not what explains human behavior.  We have become a society which largely, if unconsciously, accepts the view that individual behaviors are the product of environmental influences more than the free choices that issue from a person’s own moral character.

The Daily Mail and others are blathering on, even now, about how the Nashville shooter’s behavior is somehow a product of her Christian family not endorsing her transgender pretensions.  In such a case, of course, the shooter’s behavior becomes the fault of those who declined to celebrate and applaud her maniacal self-absorption.

But there’s another offer that we might want to consider for interpreting these events.  We should consider the possibility that the trans community knows exactly what it is doing by playing on the therapeutic sympathies of the broader culture.  It’s possible that people can be both crazy and evil and that the two are not mutually exclusive. In fact, if you’re a Christian, you might want to revisit the New Testament book of Romans (chapter 1) where the apostle Paul suggests that crazy (i.e., “their thinking became futile”) can be downstream from evil.  To put it another way, the fact that depraved self-absorption can metastasize into something maniacal and self-destructive may offer greater explanatory power than the view that we should all walk on eggshells around men in dresses so they don’t kill themselves.

A person could be forgiven for suspecting that we give these people far too little credit for being cunning and intentionally manipulative.

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  1. Columbo Inactive
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    HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  2. JoelB Member
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    Keith Lowery: In fact, if you’re a Christian, you might want to revisit the New Testament book of Romans (chapter 1) where the apostle Paul suggests that crazy (i.e. “their thinking became futile”) can be downstream from evil. 

    This is a good observation too often overlooked.

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  3. BDB Inactive
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    Yup.  Anybody who’s had a bunny-in-the-pot crazy girlfriend (or a string of them) knows exactly what this deal is.

     

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  4. No Caesar Thatcher
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    1. refuse their “pronouns”
    2. Treat them as mentally ill, unsuitable for positions of trust, and such activists as always a potential threat.
    3. Call them what they are: GROOMERS

    The fact that they really hate that last point says it all.  They are groomers.  They know they are groomers.  And they want you to accept grooming.  Any public figure who attempts to soften the harsh, factual characterization of Trans-Activists’ grooming as grooming, should be met with varying degrees of “OK Groomer”.

    The relentless repeating of that accurate label is the best tool in our arsenal at the moment.

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  5. Annefy Member
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    And the affirming behavior is never enough. Each transgression is obsessively documented and noted. Much like “racism”, every single thing is viewed through that lens. With suicide always looming. “Would you rather have a dead son or a live daughter” is heard from doctors, teachers, anyone in authority. 

    And when you point out that suicide rates don’t change for those who have transitioned, you’re told that the affirmation was less than what it needed to be. Obviously. 

    I have no idea what the answer is. But if I had college aged children, I wouldn’t send them away to attend. There’s 15 children in my family (my own children along with nieces and nephews) and the difference between those who stay local is noticeable.

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  6. Vance Richards Inactive
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    Keith Lowery: We’re being offered a deal: Accept radical gender ideology, drag for kids, porn in libraries, grooming in schools, compelled speech, the mutilation of minors, etc., and trans people will stop killing themselves and murdering others. – Seth Dillon

    This really is how they frame the discussion. First they say, “Would you rather have a trans daughter or a dead son?” which, of course, is a false choice. The truth is that people who do transition are 19 times more likely to commit suicide than the general population. So, if suicide is your concern, then transitioning is not the answer. And if you are encouraging confused people to live a lifestyle that increases their chance of suicide, don’t you kind of have blood on your hands when they actually go ahead and kill themselves?

    And now threats of violence and actual murders. This is not something that we can just laugh off. I notice a lot of posts on Ricochet lately about the trans movement. Most of it is just reacting to what is in the news. With gay marriage many people agreed that gender/sex doesn’t matter. Well, now it really doesn’t matter . . . except it does. If you’re looking for a hill you would be willing to die on, this might be it.

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  7. Buckpasser Member
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    No Caesar (View Comment):
    Treat them as mentally ill

    Sorry, but isn’t that obvious.

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  8. Vance Richards Inactive
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    I think this is the appropriate reaction . . . 

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  9. Western Chauvinist Member
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    You’ll find this worth your time.

     

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  10. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    You’ll find this worth your time.

     

    This is excellent. It would great if every Republican talked like this. They won’t, though, because most are afraid. This man is fearless.

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  11. Western Chauvinist Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):
    This is excellent. It would great if every Republican talked like this.

    He’s a truth-teller and a leader. They’re supposed to go together. 

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  12. Annefy Member
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    Buckpasser (View Comment):

    No Caesar (View Comment):
    Treat them as mentally ill

    Sorry, but isn’t that obvious.

    Remember hearing about parts of the deaf community who are against cochlear implants because it implies that they were born “less than”? The transgender issue is similar. A friend was attacked mercilessly when he suggested his adult (then) son (now) daughter go to the doc to get his T checked. And to speak with a counselor before taking any medical measures.

    Because it implied there was something “wrong”.

    In addition, there’s a huge “mommy” problem. Mothers who have embraced the identity as the mother of a transgender child, with lots of attention and praise. Most of these mothers need counseling every bit as much as the child.

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  13. TBA Coolidge
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    Annefy (View Comment):

    Buckpasser (View Comment):

    No Caesar (View Comment):
    Treat them as mentally ill

    Sorry, but isn’t that obvious.

    Remember hearing about parts of the deaf community who are against cochlear implants because it implies that they were born “less than”? The transgender issue is similar. A friend was attacked mercilessly when he suggested his adult (then) son (now) daughter go to the doc to get his T checked. And to speak with a counselor before taking any medical measures.

    Because it implied there was something “wrong”.

    In addition, there’s a huge “mommy” problem. Mothers who have embraced the identity as the mother of a transgender child, with lots of attention and praise. Most of these mothers need counseling every bit as much as the child.

    What mother doesn’t believe her child is special? 

    And what better proof that xe is? 

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  14. Annefy Member
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    TBA (View Comment):

    Annefy (View Comment):

    Buckpasser (View Comment):

    No Caesar (View Comment):
    Treat them as mentally ill

    Sorry, but isn’t that obvious.

    Remember hearing about parts of the deaf community who are against cochlear implants because it implies that they were born “less than”? The transgender issue is similar. A friend was attacked mercilessly when he suggested his adult (then) son (now) daughter go to the doc to get his T checked. And to speak with a counselor before taking any medical measures.

    Because it implied there was something “wrong”.

    In addition, there’s a huge “mommy” problem. Mothers who have embraced the identity as the mother of a transgender child, with lots of attention and praise. Most of these mothers need counseling every bit as much as the child.

    What mother doesn’t believe her child is special?

    And what better proof that xe is?

    of course your child is special. That’s why God gave every child two adults who would feel their children is the best and deserves the best. What’s new is expecting everyone to accommodate and encourage and affirm  

    I had conversations with my kids about packing extra lunch for “friend Joey” or “Christina” – all imaginary friends 

    I didn’t expect their teachers to set aside an extra desk for those friends. 

     

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  15. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    Sidebar: One thought I  first had considering  that DEI lady who came down from Stanford Admin office to stand at the podium and scold the Fed judge for showing up to teach the law class:

    She claimed she was made afraid and she was concerned that his very presence was making everyone unsafe.

    Yet she stood at the podium and openly chided him.

    During that outburst, that ‘triggering’ Fed judge  was not even 6 feet away from her.

    So how scared was she?

    I’ve been scared of people many times. Most often decades ago  when  visiting friends as a young person, out and about late  at night and  using  the Chicago elevated, then noticing the gangsta types that were eying me.

    I don’t remember ever standing up on the subway seat cushion and proclaiming: “Okay all you scary dudes in the back of this train car, get off at the next stop because you are scaring me.”

    Because if a person or group of people are scaring you, you do not bring yourself to their attention.

    Also I can’t imagine anyone being triggered with overwhelming fear by a middle aged white guy in a suit.

    How triggered are these people? Or is that just their “legal” and socially accepted explanation for being the lunatics that they are,  who refuse to use words to debate ideas.

    It is so much easier to  make everything about their precious little feelings.

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  16. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    Also one final thought for the day:right now, most in the gay community are not accepting of transpeople.

    If they are a gay man, they want a real man.

    If they are a lesbian, they want a real female.

    If this ever changes, and gay men start being okay with being with someone who has been surgically altered, there will be a world of hurt descending.

    Society overall is rarely as disapproving as gay men are of other men. The “b” word rhyming with witch is used for everything from a social gaffe to the wrong accessory draped over an outfit.

     

     

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  17. TBA Coolidge
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    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    Sidebar: One thought I first had considering that DEI lady who came down from Stanford Admin office to stand at the podium and scold the Fed judge for showing up to teach the law class:

    She claimed she was made afraid and she was concerned that his very presence was making everyone unsafe.

    Yet she stood at the podium and openly chided him.

    During that outburst, that ‘triggering’ Fed judge was not even 6 feet away from her.

    So how scared was she?

    I’ve been scared of people many times. Most often decades ago when visiting friends as a young person, out and about late at night and using the Chicago elevated, then noticing the gangsta types that were eying me.

    I don’t remember ever standing up on the subway seat cushion and proclaiming: “Okay all you scary dudes in the back of this train car, get off at the next stop because you are scaring me.”

    Because if a person or group of people are scaring you, you do not bring yourself to their attention.

    Also I can’t imagine anyone being triggered with overwhelming fear by a middle aged white guy in a suit.

    How triggered are these people? Or is that just their “legal” and socially accepted explanation for being the lunatics that they are, who refuse to use words to debate ideas.

    It is so much easier to make everything about their precious little feelings.

    You misunderstand – it was so very brave brave of her to confront the oppressor despite her fear! 

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  18. Keith Lowery Coolidge
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):
    He’s a truth-teller and a leader. They’re supposed to go together. 

    Indeed.

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