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1. Inactive
   BDB

   @BDB

   1:39 AM EDT ⋅ Mar 26, 2023

   Annefy (View Comment):

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   Manny (View Comment):

   I just learned about Chat GPT yesterday from my brother, who’s a college professor. Apparently students are using it to generate term papers. I found it hard to believe but he showed me and the ill gotten papers are essentially untraceable. What is this world coming to? I don’t find this a good thing. I think colleges have to go back to oral argumentation as they had it in the Middle Ages.

   I use it quite a bit in my writing for work. I write down all the facts and talking points and original thoughts that I want to include in a piece, and I ask the computer to organize it all into a single coherent article/press release/speech/whatever. Then I take what it spits out and I polish it up so it’s my own voice.

   I wouldn’t ask it to write something from scratch without providing it with the facts first, and certainly not without proofreading and editing before I submit the piece to my boss.

   But dang, it really does speed up the process of organizing all my disparate thoughts into something coherent.

   I guess for work it doesn’t hurt, especially if you’re supplying the themes. But how do students learn to write with this available? And what discriminates a good student from a mediocre student?

   Ok. Great. We have AI to do the writing.

   But I do believe that writing plays a great part in thinking. My four kids are all nuttier than a hoot owl. But their writing demands in high school forced them to codify their thinking. They’re clear thinkers because it was demanded they be clear writers.

   If it is not necessary to be a clear writer, damn sure we’re not going to get clear thinkers.

   Well just train an AI to spot text written by AI, then let it do everything from grading papers to hiring and firing, judge and jury, Representin’ and Presidentin’, and prioritizing survivors and evacuees when the silver ships come.  
   What’s that you say, Lassie?

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   BDB

   @BDB

   1:44 AM EDT ⋅ Mar 26, 2023

   Somebody commented that this is not even close to AI, that instead we have just dumbed ourselves down to accept its greasy parlor tricks.  True that!  However…

   The real accomplishment here is the construction of a politically biased “AI” that glibly tells its own lies while throwing shade at the unenlightened for their peasant-like bias.  It’s like being on Ricochet circa 2014!

3. Member
   Annefy

   @Annefy

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   1:57 AM EDT ⋅ Mar 26, 2023

   BDB (View Comment):

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   Manny (View Comment):

   I just learned about Chat GPT yesterday from my brother, who’s a college professor. Apparently students are using it to generate term papers. I found it hard to believe but he showed me and the ill gotten papers are essentially untraceable. What is this world coming to? I don’t find this a good thing. I think colleges have to go back to oral argumentation as they had it in the Middle Ages.

   I use it quite a bit in my writing for work. I write down all the facts and talking points and original thoughts that I want to include in a piece, and I ask the computer to organize it all into a single coherent article/press release/speech/whatever. Then I take what it spits out and I polish it up so it’s my own voice.

   I wouldn’t ask it to write something from scratch without providing it with the facts first, and certainly not without proofreading and editing before I submit the piece to my boss.

   But dang, it really does speed up the process of organizing all my disparate thoughts into something coherent.

   I guess for work it doesn’t hurt, especially if you’re supplying the themes. But how do students learn to write with this available? And what discriminates a good student from a mediocre student?

   Ok. Great. We have AI to do the writing.

   But I do believe that writing plays a great part in thinking. My four kids are all nuttier than a hoot owl. But their writing demands in high school forced them to codify their thinking. They’re clear thinkers because it was demanded they be clear writers.

   If it is not necessary to be a clear writer, damn sure we’re not going to get clear thinkers.

   Well just train an AI to spot text written by AI, then let it do everything from grading papers to hiring and firing, judge and jury, Representin’ and Presidentin’, and prioritizing survivors and evacuees when the silver ships come.
   What’s that you say, Lassie?

   I’m no idiot. Nor are you. I am 100% sure you and I could pick out a usurper.  Not my worry. What we need are clear thinkers  

   I’m looking for clear thinkers. 

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   Vance Richards

   @VanceRichards

   9:08 AM EDT ⋅ Mar 26, 2023

   These tools are self -learning, so I imagine that someone who only watches the evening network news would think the same as the AI.

5. Thatcher
   Percival

   @Percival

   

   9:32 AM EDT ⋅ Mar 26, 2023

   Vance Richards (View Comment):

   These tools are self -learning, so I imagine that someone who only watches the evening network news would think the same as the AI.

   If they concoct google searches from the identified keywords in the original query, robo-Brian Williams writes your copy for you.

   

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   db25db

   @db25db

   3:01 PM EDT ⋅ Mar 26, 2023

   BDB (View Comment):

   Dear leftist shill-bot,

   Please describe how lowering taxes and reducing the size of government produce totalitarian regimes.

   beep boop boop *smoke*  cannot compute

7. Inactive
   db25db

   @db25db

   3:06 PM EDT ⋅ Mar 26, 2023

   Vance Richards (View Comment):

   Of course, when I asked the same question but changed Trump to FDR, this kicked out. . .

   Franklin Delano Roosevelt, commonly known as FDR, is widely regarded as one of the most successful presidents in American history. Elected to office four times, FDR led the country through some of its most difficult periods, including the Great Depression and World War II. His leadership and vision helped to transform the nation and improve the lives of millions of Americans.

   One of FDR’s greatest accomplishments was his New Deal program, which aimed to lift the country out of the Great Depression through government intervention and economic reform. The New Deal included a series of programs and policies designed to create jobs, provide relief to struggling families, and stabilize the economy. Through the New Deal, FDR created the Social Security system, expanded the federal government’s role in regulating the economy, and provided support to farmers, workers, and small businesses.

   During World War II, FDR led the nation with courage and conviction, guiding the country through one of its most challenging periods. He rallied Americans behind the war effort, mobilized the country’s industrial resources to support the war effort, and worked tirelessly to build alliances with other nations. His leadership helped to secure victory for the Allied forces and establish the United States as a global superpower.

   FDR’s legacy also includes his commitment to social justice and civil rights. He worked to promote equal opportunity and end discrimination against marginalized communities, including African Americans and women. His efforts to expand the federal government’s role in promoting social welfare and ensuring equal rights laid the foundation for many of the policies and programs that exist today.

   In summary, FDR’s leadership and vision helped to transform the nation and improve the lives of millions of Americans. His New Deal program provided critical support during the Great Depression, and his leadership during World War II secured victory for the Allied forces. His commitment to social justice and civil rights helped to lay the foundation for a more equitable society. For these reasons, FDR is widely regarded as one of the best presidents in American history

   Interesting, but not unexpected.

   I wonder what Japanese Americans think about that “worked to promote equal opportunity and end discrimination against marginalized communities” line?

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   Misthiocracy has never

   @Misthiocracy

   

   4:28 PM EDT ⋅ Mar 26, 2023

   Manny (View Comment):

   Misthiocracy has never (View Comment):

   Manny (View Comment):

   I just learned about Chat GPT yesterday from my brother, who’s a college professor. Apparently students are using it to generate term papers. I found it hard to believe but he showed me and the ill gotten papers are essentially untraceable. What is this world coming to? I don’t find this a good thing. I think colleges have to go back to oral argumentation as they had it in the Middle Ages.

   I use it quite a bit in my writing for work. I write down all the facts and talking points and original thoughts that I want to include in a piece, and I ask the computer to organize it all into a single coherent article/press release/speech/whatever. Then I take what it spits out and I polish it up so it’s my own voice.

   I wouldn’t ask it to write something from scratch without providing it with the facts first, and certainly not without proofreading and editing before I submit the piece to my boss.

   But dang, it really does speed up the process of organizing all my disparate thoughts into something coherent.

   I guess for work it doesn’t hurt, especially if you’re supplying the themes. But how do students learn to write with this available? And what discriminates a good student from a mediocre student?

   Why bother learning to write when computer ghostwriters are just gonna keep getting better and better?

   I spent my college years learning how to shoot and edit movies on 16mm film. Those skills were almost completely obsolete within three years of my graduation.

9. Member
   Misthiocracy has never

   @Misthiocracy

   

   4:31 PM EDT ⋅ Mar 26, 2023

   BDB (View Comment):

   Annefy (View Comment):

   Manny (View Comment):

   Misthiocracy has never (View Comment):

   Manny (View Comment):

   I just learned about Chat GPT yesterday from my brother, who’s a college professor. Apparently students are using it to generate term papers. I found it hard to believe but he showed me and the ill gotten papers are essentially untraceable. What is this world coming to? I don’t find this a good thing. I think colleges have to go back to oral argumentation as they had it in the Middle Ages.

   I use it quite a bit in my writing for work. I write down all the facts and talking points and original thoughts that I want to include in a piece, and I ask the computer to organize it all into a single coherent article/press release/speech/whatever. Then I take what it spits out and I polish it up so it’s my own voice.

   I wouldn’t ask it to write something from scratch without providing it with the facts first, and certainly not without proofreading and editing before I submit the piece to my boss.

   But dang, it really does speed up the process of organizing all my disparate thoughts into something coherent.

   I guess for work it doesn’t hurt, especially if you’re supplying the themes. But how do students learn to write with this available? And what discriminates a good student from a mediocre student?

   Ok. Great. We have AI to do the writing.

   But I do believe that writing plays a great part in thinking. My four kids are all nuttier than a hoot owl. But their writing demands in high school forced them to codify their thinking. They’re clear thinkers because it was demanded they be clear writers.

   If it is not necessary to be a clear writer, damn sure we’re not going to get clear thinkers.

   Well just train an AI to spot text written by AI, then let it do everything from grading papers to hiring and firing, judge and jury, Representin’ and Presidentin’, and prioritizing survivors and evacuees when the silver ships come.
   What’s that you say, Lassie?

   If one team can train a Large Language Model (LLM) to spot text written by a LLM, then another team can train a second LLM to defeat that first LLM, and then another team can train a third LLM to defeat the second LLM, and then another team can train a fourth LLM to…

   Its turtles all the way down, is what I’m saying.

   (I greatly prefer the term LLM to AI. I am not close to convinced that these things qualify as AI.)

10. Coolidge
    David C. Broussard

    @Dbroussa

    5:21 PM EDT ⋅ Mar 26, 2023

    BDB (View Comment):
    Well just train an AI to spot text written by AI, then let it do everything from grading papers to hiring and firing, judge and jury, Representin’ and Presidentin’, and prioritizing survivors and evacuees when the silver ships come.  
    What’s that you say, Lassie?

    This already exists. Both for plagiarism and for AI writing. Friend who teaches English at a local college uses both. The second is still bring refined, but it’s getting better. 

11. Thatcher
    Percival

    @Percival

    

    6:04 PM EDT ⋅ Mar 26, 2023

    Misthiocracy has never (View Comment):

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    Manny (View Comment):

    I just learned about Chat GPT yesterday from my brother, who’s a college professor. Apparently students are using it to generate term papers. I found it hard to believe but he showed me and the ill gotten papers are essentially untraceable. What is this world coming to? I don’t find this a good thing. I think colleges have to go back to oral argumentation as they had it in the Middle Ages.

    I use it quite a bit in my writing for work. I write down all the facts and talking points and original thoughts that I want to include in a piece, and I ask the computer to organize it all into a single coherent article/press release/speech/whatever. Then I take what it spits out and I polish it up so it’s my own voice.

    I wouldn’t ask it to write something from scratch without providing it with the facts first, and certainly not without proofreading and editing before I submit the piece to my boss.

    But dang, it really does speed up the process of organizing all my disparate thoughts into something coherent.

    I guess for work it doesn’t hurt, especially if you’re supplying the themes. But how do students learn to write with this available? And what discriminates a good student from a mediocre student?

    Why bother learning to write when computer ghostwriters are just gonna keep getting better and better?

    I spent my college years learning how to shoot and edit movies on 16mm film. Those skills were almost completely obsolete within three years of my graduation.

    My first semester of computer science had me scheming for time on the keypunch machines that the U took out the next year in favor of VT100 terminals. No more card decks.

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    Saint Augustine

    @SaintAugustine

    7:49 PM EDT ⋅ Mar 26, 2023

    Misthiocracy has never (View Comment):

    (I greatly prefer the term LLM to AI. I am not close to convinced that these things qualify as AI.)

    No intelligence without consciousness.

13. Member
    Misthiocracy has never

    @Misthiocracy

    

    9:53 PM EDT ⋅ Mar 26, 2023

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Misthiocracy has never (View Comment):

    (I greatly prefer the term LLM to AI. I am not close to convinced that these things qualify as AI.)

    No intelligence without consciousness.

    And artificial consciousness is pretty much impossible to prove.

14. Coolidge
    Flicker

    @Flicker

    5:05 PM EDT ⋅ Mar 27, 2023

    Misthiocracy has never (View Comment):

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    Manny (View Comment):

    I just learned about Chat GPT yesterday from my brother, who’s a college professor. Apparently students are using it to generate term papers. I found it hard to believe but he showed me and the ill gotten papers are essentially untraceable. What is this world coming to? I don’t find this a good thing. I think colleges have to go back to oral argumentation as they had it in the Middle Ages.

    I use it quite a bit in my writing for work. I write down all the facts and talking points and original thoughts that I want to include in a piece, and I ask the computer to organize it all into a single coherent article/press release/speech/whatever. Then I take what it spits out and I polish it up so it’s my own voice.

    I wouldn’t ask it to write something from scratch without providing it with the facts first, and certainly not without proofreading and editing before I submit the piece to my boss.

    But dang, it really does speed up the process of organizing all my disparate thoughts into something coherent.

    I guess for work it doesn’t hurt, especially if you’re supplying the themes. But how do students learn to write with this available? And what discriminates a good student from a mediocre student?

    Why bother learning to write when computer ghostwriters are just gonna keep getting better and better?

    I spent my college years learning how to shoot and edit movies on 16mm film. Those skills were almost completely obsolete within three years of my graduation.

    But Steenbeck is still in business as far as I know.

15. Coolidge
    Flicker

    @Flicker

    5:09 PM EDT ⋅ Mar 27, 2023

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Misthiocracy has never (View Comment):

    (I greatly prefer the term LLM to AI. I am not close to convinced that these things qualify as AI.)

    No intelligence without consciousness.

    Will you never be able to say of a computer generated response to anything, “Now that was smart!”?

16. Member
    Saint Augustine

    @SaintAugustine

    5:10 PM EDT ⋅ Mar 27, 2023

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Misthiocracy has never (View Comment):

    (I greatly prefer the term LLM to AI. I am not close to convinced that these things qualify as AI.)

    No intelligence without consciousness.

    Will you never be able to say of a computer generated response to anything, “Now that was smart!”?

    Technically, never.

17. Coolidge
    Manny

    @Manny

    9:52 PM EDT ⋅ Apr 1, 2023

    Annefy (View Comment):

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    Manny (View Comment):

    I just learned about Chat GPT yesterday from my brother, who’s a college professor. Apparently students are using it to generate term papers. I found it hard to believe but he showed me and the ill gotten papers are essentially untraceable. What is this world coming to? I don’t find this a good thing. I think colleges have to go back to oral argumentation as they had it in the Middle Ages.

    I use it quite a bit in my writing for work. I write down all the facts and talking points and original thoughts that I want to include in a piece, and I ask the computer to organize it all into a single coherent article/press release/speech/whatever. Then I take what it spits out and I polish it up so it’s my own voice.

    I wouldn’t ask it to write something from scratch without providing it with the facts first, and certainly not without proofreading and editing before I submit the piece to my boss.

    But dang, it really does speed up the process of organizing all my disparate thoughts into something coherent.

    I guess for work it doesn’t hurt, especially if you’re supplying the themes. But how do students learn to write with this available? And what discriminates a good student from a mediocre student?

    Ok. Great. We have AI to do the writing.

    But I do believe that writing plays a great part in thinking. My four kids are all nuttier than a hoot owl. But their writing demands in high school forced them to codify their thinking. They’re clear thinkers because it was demanded they be clear writers.

    If it is not necessary to be a clear writer, damn sure we’re not going to get clear thinkers.

    I agree whole heartedly.