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Interesting article today in the San Antonio fish wrapper. This picture summarizes it all by itself. We are certainly doing our part; we are the county directly north of San Antonio. I am shocked that Kerr County (to our west) is less Republican. The best part of this election is Abbott beating Beto Francis by a bigger margin than Cruz.

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  1. Ernst Rabbit von Hasenpfeffer Member
    Ernst Rabbit von Hasenpfeffer
    @ape2ag

    Harris County is an interesting case.  Mail in ballots are limited in Texas so not much of a factor there.  But election day shenanigans probably provided the margin of victory for a number of very tight local races.  It’s really hard to make local officials run a fair election if they don’t want to.

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  2. David C. Broussard Coolidge
    David C. Broussard
    @Dbroussa

    Note that Ft Bend is the only county that flipped blue. Also all of the counties around Houston became bluer. The urban blight is spreading. Where I live in Guadalupe county and the counties that are east of SA and Austin are where people are moving to flee the cities and then promptly voting for the same things that made them flee. 

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  3. Full Size Tabby Member
    Full Size Tabby
    @FullSizeTabby

    This map is another piece of evidence that Democrats are urbanites and Republicans are more rural. 

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  4. EB Thatcher
    EB
    @EB

    I lived in Texas for 10 years. This is an interesting map.  Would you mind sharing the link to it?  Thanks!

    EDIT: Never mind.  I found it but it’s behind a pay wall.

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  5. Tex929rr Coolidge
    Tex929rr
    @Tex929rr

    BTW, I did some research and Kerr County voters gave Abbott’s 2018 opponent 19.28 percent of the vote and Francis 20.65 percent (55 fewer votes).  Given how many people are still mad over Abbott’s early lockdowns that’s not much of an indicator. 

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  6. David C. Broussard Coolidge
    David C. Broussard
    @Dbroussa

    Tex929rr (View Comment):

    BTW, I did some research and Kerr County voters gave Abbott’s 2018 opponent 19.28 percent of the vote and Francis 20.65 percent (55 fewer votes). Given how many people are still mad over Abbott’s early lockdowns that’s not much of an indicator.

    I looked at Guadalupe County:

    Total: 18: 54,403  22: 57,242 Delta: 2,839

    Abbott:  18: 36,284  22: 36,882 Delta: 598

    Dem: 18: 17,265  22: 19,356 Delta: 2,091

    Others: 18: 369  22: 1004 Delta: 635

    Undervotes: 18: 369 22: 177 Delta: -192

    It shows that the Dems picked up 74% of the increase in voters which can be explained a number of ways.  My personal view is that Guadalupe (like many suburban/exurban) counties is becoming more populated with commuters into San Antonio/Austin and those people are more liberal.

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  7. Rōnin Coolidge
    Rōnin
    @Ronin

    Looks like in Texas, only the very poor or very rich vote Democrat.  

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  8. David C. Broussard Coolidge
    David C. Broussard
    @Dbroussa

    Rōnin (View Comment):

    Looks like in Texas, only the very poor or very rich vote Democrat.

    The cities are blue and spreading.  Harris County (Houston) went Blue in 08.  Ft Worth went blue in 20 (by ~2k votes out of 8334K.  No major city in Texas is red anymore (in Presidential elections, its different in gubernatorial elections).

    The valley has been a democratic stronghold for a very long time.  My mother used to say that no Hispanic ever votes for a Republican, and that attitude is slowly changing, very slowly.  The consultant class think that the GOP stance on illegal immigration is the reason, but that isn’t it at all.  Frankly Hispanic voters are traditionalists in many ways and vote the same way they always have since Texas was a one-party state.  Getting them to change to the GOP even when they might align more with them is hard because it means getting them to admit that their traditional Democrat votes are mistakes and that strikes at pride as well.

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  9. Rōnin Coolidge
    Rōnin
    @Ronin

    David C. Broussard (View Comment):

    Rōnin (View Comment):

    Looks like in Texas, only the very poor or very rich vote Democrat.

    The cities are blue and spreading. Harris County (Houston) went Blue in 08. Ft Worth went blue in 20 (by ~2k votes out of 8334K. No major city in Texas is red anymore (in Presidential elections, its different in gubernatorial elections).

    The valley has been a democratic stronghold for a very long time. My mother used to say that no Hispanic ever votes for a Republican, and that attitude is slowly changing, very slowly. The consultant class think that the GOP stance on illegal immigration is the reason, but that isn’t it at all. Frankly Hispanic voters are traditionalists in many ways and vote the same way they always have since Texas was a one-party state. Getting them to change to the GOP even when they might align more with them is hard because it means getting them to admit that their traditional Democrat votes are mistakes and that strikes at pride as well.

    We are OK here in Comal County, but we are fast becoming the new South Austin.  Seems to me that the growth of San Antonio (Bexar County) has some what stagnated.  

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  10. Skyler Coolidge
    Skyler
    @Skyler

    Beto is one of those politicians lately who generally never has a chance to win in races that nobody else will challenge and he does it because that’s his source of income.  He’d probably have to take a pay cut if he were ever elected.

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  11. David C. Broussard Coolidge
    David C. Broussard
    @Dbroussa

    Rōnin (View Comment):

    David C. Broussard (View Comment):

    Rōnin (View Comment):

    Looks like in Texas, only the very poor or very rich vote Democrat.

    The cities are blue and spreading. Harris County (Houston) went Blue in 08. Ft Worth went blue in 20 (by ~2k votes out of 8334K. No major city in Texas is red anymore (in Presidential elections, its different in gubernatorial elections).

    The valley has been a democratic stronghold for a very long time. My mother used to say that no Hispanic ever votes for a Republican, and that attitude is slowly changing, very slowly. The consultant class think that the GOP stance on illegal immigration is the reason, but that isn’t it at all. Frankly Hispanic voters are traditionalists in many ways and vote the same way they always have since Texas was a one-party state. Getting them to change to the GOP even when they might align more with them is hard because it means getting them to admit that their traditional Democrat votes are mistakes and that strikes at pride as well.

    We are OK here in Comal County, but we are fast becoming the new South Austin. Seems to me that the growth of San Antonio (Bexar County) has some what stagnated.

    It has and it’s now in Guadalupe, Kendall, Medina, and Comal counties where San Antonio is growing. I think that Comal is in stage one where the conservatives in SA are moving there and, somewhat, countering the migration out of Austin, but eventually liberals from SA will start moving there to get decent schools and yards and then want city services and you end up with it becoming Ft Bend County. 

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  12. Rōnin Coolidge
    Rōnin
    @Ronin

    David C. Broussard (View Comment):

    Rōnin (View Comment):

    David C. Broussard (View Comment):

    Rōnin (View Comment):

    Looks like in Texas, only the very poor or very rich vote Democrat.

    The cities are blue and spreading. Harris County (Houston) went Blue in 08. Ft Worth went blue in 20 (by ~2k votes out of 8334K. No major city in Texas is red anymore (in Presidential elections, its different in gubernatorial elections).

    The valley has been a democratic stronghold for a very long time. My mother used to say that no Hispanic ever votes for a Republican, and that attitude is slowly changing, very slowly. The consultant class think that the GOP stance on illegal immigration is the reason, but that isn’t it at all. Frankly Hispanic voters are traditionalists in many ways and vote the same way they always have since Texas was a one-party state. Getting them to change to the GOP even when they might align more with them is hard because it means getting them to admit that their traditional Democrat votes are mistakes and that strikes at pride as well.

    We are OK here in Comal County, but we are fast becoming the new South Austin. Seems to me that the growth of San Antonio (Bexar County) has some what stagnated.

    It has and it’s now in Guadalupe, Kendall, Medina, and Comal counties where San Antonio is growing. I think that Comal is in stage one where the conservatives in SA are moving there and, somewhat, countering the migration out of Austin, but eventually liberals from SA will start moving there to get decent schools and yards and then want city services and you end up with it becoming Ft Bend County.

    That’s the only thing that has saved us so far is lack of utilities, mainly sewage and water.  The developers do their damndest, but maintaining septic fields and paying $10.00 a foot to dig wells is not everyone’s cup of tea.

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