Omaha Man Arrested After Active Shooter Drill

 

The Catholic Charities of Omaha where concerned about active shooters at a new facility that they opened because it had a shelter for victims of domestic violence. A reasonable concern. But in an almost sitcom fashion, the reasonable concerns coalesced into a clown show that it is nearly miraculous that nobody was killed.

The great minds who run that operation had hired someone to stage an active shooter drill, complete with a man in a hoodie firing blanks and “victims” lying on the ground with with fake bloody wounds.

But Catholic Charities’ managers didn’t tell any of their employees it was going to happen.

When the time came to choose someone to conduct the “drill,” Catholic Charities hired a self-described “citizen police officer” who also happens to be an alleged abuser of young women as well as a child pornographer.

Not just the Catholic Charities employees but also not informed were the police or the 911 call center. So when the events started to play out, and the 911 call center started receiving frantic calls for help. Armed officers were dispatched – along with ambulance crews and you can imagine the chaos…It’s amazing that this didn’t take a tragic turn…

Catholic Charities of Omaha Executive Director Denise Bartels, totally unencumbered by the thought process and employing a mind-numbing lack of foresight, approved the un-announced drill…and ran it five days after the Buffalo supermarket shooting.

Some employees where so shaken by this experience that they have not been able to return to work. I imagine a massive lawsuit is the works for the callous disregard of worker safety this management team displayed. I don’t think I would work for a management group that organized an event like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfsMCqAkWQs

Original article:

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/omaha-man-charged-after-conducting-active-shooter-drill-in-which-employees-werent-told-it-wasnt-real/

Amazing.

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  1. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    I think some sort of prosecution is prosecution should be in order.

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  2. Justin Other Lawyer Coolidge
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    The fire drill scene from The Office is not a how-to guide.

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  3. Mark Alexander Coolidge
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    I think the only acceptable unannounced active shooter program takes place in a bar with fast drinks.

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  4. Miffed White Male Member
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    Holy [redacted]!  How did multiple people not wind up dead as a result of this?

     

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  5. Doug Watt Moderator
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    There is no shortage of idiots in this world. The better way to do this would have been to call their local police department to express their concerns and arrange to have a real police officer talk to the staff. The next step would be, if necessary, a drill conducted with the real police.

    Officers in roll call would be informed that a drill was going to take place. The staff would be informed that there would be a drill. Neighbors could also be informed that a drill was going to take place. Drills take planning to include firearms inspections for the officers taking part in a drill. No live rounds mean no accidents.

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  6. Miffed White Male Member
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    Doug Watt (View Comment):

    There is no shortage of idiots in this world. The better way to do this would have been to call their local police department to express their concerns and arrange to have a real police officer talk to the staff. The next step would be, if necessary, a drill conducted with the real police.

    Officers in roll call would be informed that a drill was going to take place. The staff would be informed that there would be a drill. Neighbors could also be informed that a drill was going to take place. Drills take planning to include firearms inspections for the officers taking part in a drill. No live rounds mean no accidents.

    The even better way to do this is to not do it at all.  Because people are stupid and [stuff] happens.

    You can train for this type of event without having a “drill” with weapons.  I wouldn’t even let someone do it with Nerf guns.

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  7. Miffed White Male Member
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    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    Doug Watt (View Comment):

    There is no shortage of idiots in this world. The better way to do this would have been to call their local police department to express their concerns and arrange to have a real police officer talk to the staff. The next step would be, if necessary, a drill conducted with the real police.

    Officers in roll call would be informed that a drill was going to take place. The staff would be informed that there would be a drill. Neighbors could also be informed that a drill was going to take place. Drills take planning to include firearms inspections for the officers taking part in a drill. No live rounds mean no accidents.

    The even better way to do this is to not do it at all. Because people are stupid and [stuff] happens.

    You can train for this type of event without having a “drill” with weapons. I wouldn’t even let someone do it with Nerf guns.

    The company I work for recently bought a company that does metal castings.  One of the products they make is dummy bombs for the military.

    They do not make real bomb casings for the military. The military is smart enough to understand that sourcing “live” and “dummy” units from the same supplier is asking for disaster.

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  8. Quietpi Member
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    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    The even better way to do this is to not do it at all.  Because people are stupid and [stuff] happens.

    You can train for this type of event without having a “drill” with weapons.  I wouldn’t even let someone do it with Nerf guns.

    I disagree.  Nothing equates the “real thing,” but drills come closest.  One of the biggest problems in responding to any emergency is for those involved keeping their heads about them, and not to start acting emotionally & irrationally – that is, to remember their training, and use it.  You need to experience the stress to know how to handle it.  There’s no equivalent to being in a situation, and realizing “been there – done that,” or “here we go again.”  Drills do this best.

    Classroom training is important, but there’s no substitute for experience.  You can have a master’s degree in fire science, for example, but the first time you step on a fire line (we’re talking wildland firefighting here), your red “fire qualification” card will say “firefighter.”  That’s the bottom rung.  

    @dougwatt described how it is done, safely, and everybody with training and experience knows how it’s done.  Also, there are training aids – “blue guns,” “red guns,” even ‘blue knives,” etc.  are often used in place of real weapons.  

    But in this case, somebody’s maybe of bunch of  somebody’s, heads should roll.  “You can’t fix stupid.”  

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  9. Miffed White Male Member
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    Quietpi (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    The even better way to do this is to not do it at all. Because people are stupid and [stuff] happens.

    You can train for this type of event without having a “drill” with weapons. I wouldn’t even let someone do it with Nerf guns.

    I disagree. Nothing equates the “real thing,” but drills come closest. One of the biggest problems in responding to any emergency is for those involved keeping their heads about them, and not to start acting emotionally & irrationally – that is, to remember their training, and use it. You need to experience the stress to know how to handle it. There’s no equivalent to being in a situation, and realizing “been there – done that,” or “here we go again.” Drills do this best.

    Classroom training is important, but there’s no substitute for experience. You can have a master’s degree in fire science, for example, but the first time you step on a fire line (we’re talking wildland firefighting here), your red “fire qualification” card will say “firefighter.” That’s the bottom rung.

    @ dougwatt described how it is done, safely, and everybody with training and experience knows how it’s done. Also, there are training aids – “blue guns,” “red guns,” even ‘blue knives,” etc. are often used in place of real weapons.

    But in this case, somebody’s maybe of bunch of somebody’s, heads should roll. “You can’t fix stupid.”

    training for responders (Firefighters in your example), yes.  Training for ordinary people?  No.

     

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  10. Quietpi Member
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    Miffed White Male (View Comment):
    training for responders (Firefighters in your example), yes.  Training for ordinary people?  No.

    Absolutely.  When you’re in it, you’re in it.  That’s why schools are doing it.  Uvalde wasn’t doing it, or wasn’t taking it seriously.  

    Get a book, The Unthinkable, by Ripley.  Read the chapters on the Twin Towers, and how one man, Rick Rescorla,  single handed, and against upper – level resistance, saved 3,000 lives that day.   Then there’s Gladwell: Blink.  and De Becker: The Gift of Fear.  

    That’s why you have training dummies in CPR and AED classes.  

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  11. kedavis Inactive
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    Justin Other Lawyer (View Comment):

    The fire drill scene from The Office is not a how-to guide.

     

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  12. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    Quiet Pi, you stated that:

    “Catholic Charities’ managers didn’t tell any of their employees it was going to happen.

    “When the time came to choose someone to conduct the “drill,” Catholic Charities hired a self-described “citizen police officer” who also happens to be an alleged abuser of young women as well as a child pornographer.”

    I guess we can all breathe a sigh of relief that Alec Baldwin wasn’t free to accompany said volunteer that day.

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  13. Jason Obermeyer Member
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    I think some sort of prosecution is prosecution should be in order.

    Or an unannounced  prosecution drill.

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  14. CACrabtree Coolidge
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    Miffed White Male (View Comment):
    #

    Yeah, what if one of those abused women would have been packing her own firearm and started shooting?  Oh well, that “director” would have had a plan for that…

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  15. Old Bathos Moderator
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    This sounds like something that Dwight Schrute would have done.

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