No One, but No One, Is Safe from Getting Covid, Regardless of Vaccination Status

 

Just in the past two weeks, the following people, high-up in the “Elites” group, have tested positive for Covid.

  • Jill Biden
  • Stacey Abrams
  • Lloyd Austin
  • Congresswoman Alma Adams (D-NC)

And the best of all?

  • Alfred Bourla, the CEO of Pfizer.

All of the above were fully vaccinated and had two booster shots. What does that tell anyone with a working brain? It tells us that the so-called vaccines do not work. We have already been told that yeah, you can still get sick, transmit the virus, and end up in the hospital even after being jabbed four times.

But our Government Masters continue to promote vaccinations and booster shots. It’s not about Covid anymore, it’s about controlling the population. No one now should ever get the vaccine. If you and your family have not yet been jabbed, don’t do it!

One person not on this list is Communist Chinese Dictator Xi Jinping. Even if he did get sick, he recovered and his minions kept it quiet. Even North Korean Dictator Kim Jong Un admitted that he has recovered from Covid. But the actual statistics from Communist China and North Korea are fake, so we may never know the actual toll from either place.

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  1. E. Kent Golding Member
    E. Kent Golding
    @EKentGolding

    In the spring, I asked my Internist about getting a booster to make travel easier.   He asked me when I was traveling,  and I mentioned late fall, early winter.   He indicated that he though COVID  ( at least severe COVID ) would have mostly blown over,  and not to worry about boosters.   He is very supportive of Flu shots and shingles vaccinations.

    I am very grateful for Trump pushing so hard to get vaccines out fast — early COVID was very dangerous,  and I had a relative die from either COVID or the treatment.    However, COVID has either evolved, or the new versions from the Wuhan Lab were designed , to be more transmissible and less fatal.

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  2. Annefy Member
    Annefy
    @Annefy

    From the OP:

    ”It’s not about Covid anymore, it’s about controlling the population.”

    I posit it was never about Covid; it certainly was never about our good health 

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  3. RushBabe49 Thatcher
    RushBabe49
    @RushBabe49

    I got the vaccine as soon as it came out in March of 2021.  I have never gotten Covid, even though I am in a “high risk” group (age 73).  Hubby got Covid (not vaccinated), and we took no special precautions.  I lived surrounded by virus for a couple of weeks and did not catch it, which leads me to believe that I already had a high level of personal immunity.  Hell, I have never had the flu!  I did not get a flu vaccination last year, and I do not intend to ever again.  We have read about so much vaccine injury, and many deaths, that we may never trust the medical establishment about anything in the future.

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  4. Nohaaj Coolidge
    Nohaaj
    @Nohaaj

    Both I and Mrs. Nohaaj have remained unpoked.  We think we likely had the early version of the vid, that was before testing was common.  

    We have lived fairly normally, with minimum masking and distancing.  I very defiantly would not wear a mask in my office, and in many stores.  I did encounter a few karens who objected, and for them, I would slowly put on a mask… Recently, Mrs. Nohaaj had to have a few health care visits.  I found that if I had a travel mug in hand presumably with java, the medical facility did not enforce mask wearing.  That contrasts with my early pandemic visit for a field of vision test with a tech who insisted that she duct tape my mask to my face to prevent my glasses from steaming up, even though she was fully vaccinated, and she and I were the only two in the room.  

    Mrs Nohaaj spent the last 2 weeks communing with 6-8000 of her closest friends at an event called Pennsic. https://www.pennsicwar.org/

    She returned Friday night.  The camp is broken up into clans, tribes, families, baronies and kingdoms.  In her particular clan, she was the only non-vaccinated participant camping.  (I declined to go this year due to too much B-S.)   By the end of the event, of the 60+/- people in her clan, about half reported testing positive for the vid.  They all chanted the phrase: Tanks Gawd I was poked, because my symptoms were minimal.

    I knew a few healthy middle aged people who died fromthe first wave of covid. I have many more I know who were poked  twice and died from the Omicron.  We have even more younger relatives, neighbors and friends who have suddenly died not from covid but from heart attacks, strokes, something, that was sudden, abrupt, without much warning.  All of these were poked and well boosted.  Their deaths are not being related or correlated to the poke… but I have my doubts.  I dare not bring up the possibility with the relatives of these people.  They are believers in the poke.  They get riled up if you so much as mention that there is conflicting information.  

    One of the girls who confirmed she tested positive, is totally paranoid about catching it. She insisted on her 6’safe space, sanitize wiped everything that was mutually handled. masked in the presence of Mrs. Nohaaj (and required her to mask too) 

    Mrs. Nohaaj, being unpoked, had to test before entering the site, and every time she left and returned, which was about every 2-3 days.

    Anyways, as pResident grifter Joe should declare: “this is a pandemic of the vaccinated.” 

     

     

     

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  5. Nohaaj Coolidge
    Nohaaj
    @Nohaaj

    RushBabe49 (View Comment):
    I did not get a flu vaccination last year, and I do not intend to ever again.

    I am not anti-vax… I recently received by second shot of Shingrix  (getting shingles  scares me!)  But I have never received a flu vax. To my knowledge, I have never had the flu, but I might have.  I have gotten quite sick on occasion over the many years, but those bouts last a day or two, and frankly only happen twice a decade.  I am currently in the risk to high risk pool.  A few months away from 65, a perfect shape. (round is perfect, no?) My life is far from sterile.  I live and thrive embedded deep in biomes of bacteria and viruses.  Perhaps I have enhanced my natural immunity.  

    Speaking of that, in church Sunday morning, one of the rare couples wearing masks sat directly in front of me.  Prior to Communion, the wife pulled a bottle of sanitizer out of her purse and put gobs of gel on both her and her husbands hands.  I swear  he had enough to scrub up to his elbows.  So they respectfully went and received Communion. A blessed thing.  touched by people who had also sanitized their hands, but touched many a hand that was unsanitized. 

    How sad so many have become so paranoid, so conditioned, to act this way; in fear. 

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  6. RushBabe49 Thatcher
    RushBabe49
    @RushBabe49

    I am not anti-vax, but the Covid shot is so new, and so potentially harmful, that I hesitate to get another vaccination that might interact with it.  In spite of having an auto-immune disease (Psoriatic Arthritis), I have always been disgustingly healthy.  We do read a lot in The Epoch Times about all the doctors who tell the truth about vaccine injuries and side-effects.  The government has kept so much knowledge and so many effective, relatively cheap treatments away from the public, that it is hard to take them seriously now, on anything.

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  7. Mad Gerald Coolidge
    Mad Gerald
    @Jose

    RushBabe49 (View Comment):
    I did not get a flu vaccination last year, and I do not intend to ever again.

    Amen.  What are the chances the flu shot might include the mRNA “vaccine”?  I wouldn’t put it past them anymore.

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  8. James Lileks Contributor
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    Nohaaj (View Comment):
    I recently received by second shot of Shingrix 

    Me too. Didn’t burn as bad as the first one, but unlike recent COVID / Flu pokes, it’s one of those injections that makes itself known. 

    But I have never received a flu vax. To my knowledge, I have never had the flu, but I might have.  I have gotten quite sick on occasion over the many years, but those bouts last a day or two, and frankly only happen twice a decade. 

    I’m the same way, so far, but I had the pnue-monie back in the early Oughts and hallucinated for two days with fever, so I take the shot for that. I do get a flu shot, for the same reason I occasionally buy a lottery ticket. Hey, you never know.

    Speaking of that, in church Sunday morning, one of the rare couples wearing masks sat directly in front of me.   . . . How sad so many have become so paranoid, so conditioned, to act this way; in fear. 

    I know. I still see people wearing masks on the street. Saw two people in the office with their mugs swaddled. 

    The thing is, I’ve always been a hypochondriac, but for the BIG THINGS. Never really feared being carried off by the Wuhan Innovation. I was very cautious at the start, because we were all in terra incognito, but I was done with masks by late April 2020. 

    Quad-stabbed, got it twice,  had maybe six hours of vague discomfort. OTOH, was talking the other day with someone whose mother, a little older than me,  died from it in 2021. But at this point I worry more about getting a cold, because I know a cold will be worse

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  9. Flicker Coolidge
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    Mad Gerald (View Comment):

    RushBabe49 (View Comment):
    I did not get a flu vaccination last year, and I do not intend to ever again.

    Amen. What are the chances the flu shot might include the mRNA “vaccine”? I wouldn’t put it past them anymore.

    That’s what concerns me about all vaccines now.

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  10. Miffed White Male Member
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    James Lileks (View Comment):

    Nohaaj (View Comment):
    I recently received by second shot of Shingrix

    Me too. Didn’t burn as bad as the first one, but unlike recent COVID / Flu pokes, it’s one of those injections that makes itself known.

    But I have never received a flu vax. To my knowledge, I have never had the flu, but I might have. I have gotten quite sick on occasion over the many years, but those bouts last a day or two, and frankly only happen twice a decade.

    I’m the same way, so far, but I had the pnue-monie back in the early Oughts and hallucinated for two days with fever, so I take the shot for that. I do get a flu shot, for the same reason I occasionally buy a lottery ticket. Hey, you never know.

    Speaking of that, in church Sunday morning, one of the rare couples wearing masks sat directly in front of me. . . . How sad so many have become so paranoid, so conditioned, to act this way; in fear.

    I know. I still see people wearing masks on the street. Saw two people in the office with their mugs swaddled.

    The thing is, I’ve always been a hypochondriac, but for the BIG THINGS. Never really feared being carried off by the Wuhan Innovation. I was very cautious at the start, because we were all in terra incognito, but I was done with masks by late April 2020.

    Quad-stabbed, got it twice, had maybe six hours of vague discomfort. OTOH, was talking the other day with someone whose mother, a little older than me, died from it in 2021. But at this point I worry more about getting a cold, because I know a cold will be worse.

    I’m vaxed, not boosted, never had Covid, nor has anyone in my household.

    My brother, vaxed, one booster, has had Covid twice, says he’s done with the shots because the shots made him sicker than Covid did.

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  11. Buckpasser Member
    Buckpasser
    @Buckpasser

    Everyone we know who have had their two or four shots and eleventy eight booster shots say they got Wuflu anyway.  I didn’t get any shots (I’m 66) and have never gotten the Wuflu. (How would I know, I’m never going to be tested.  I’ve never been tested for a cold or flu ever)

    The Wuflu hysteria should have ended after the two weeks to flatten the curve.  Trump should have said that’s it, everybody back to work, instead of handing the country over to Herr fauci. That’s what gave us Brandon.  We used to be a strong people, we’re not anymore.

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  12. The Scarecrow Thatcher
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    Nohaaj (View Comment):

    RushBabe49 (View Comment):
    I did not get a flu vaccination last year, and I do not intend to ever again.

    I am not anti-vax… I recently received by second shot of Shingrix (getting shingles scares me!) But I have never received a flu vax. To my knowledge, I have never had the flu, but I might have. I have gotten quite sick on occasion over the many years, but those bouts last a day or two, and frankly only happen twice a decade. I am currently in the risk to high risk pool. A few months away from 65, a perfect shape. (round is perfect, no?) My life is far from sterile. I live and thrive embedded deep in biomes of bacteria and viruses. Perhaps I have enhanced my natural immunity.

    Speaking of that, in church Sunday morning, one of the rare couples wearing masks sat directly in front of me. Prior to Communion, the wife pulled a bottle of sanitizer out of her purse and put gobs of gel on both her and her husbands hands. I swear he had enough to scrub up to his elbows. So they respectfully went and received Communion. A blessed thing. touched by people who had also sanitized their hands, but touched many a hand that was unsanitized.

    How sad so many have become so paranoid, so conditioned, to act this way; in fear.

    Yes, and one of the first things to come out back in the earliest days of Covid was that it is not spread from surfaces. So the hand sanitizer is pointless. But once they got that fear going as well, why stop it? A jittery, fear-filled, mistrustful populace is much easier to scare into compliance.

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  13. Old Bathos Moderator
    Old Bathos
    @OldBathos

    Some infected common people must not have been wearing masks and thus happened to infect some of the elite.  Clearly, we need to double down on mandates on the masses.

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  14. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patriot) Member
    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patriot)
    @ArizonaPatriot

    RushBabe49: All of the above were fully vaccinated and had two booster shots.  What does that tell anyone with a working brain?  It tells us that the so-called vaccines do not work.  We have already been told that yeah, you can still get sick, transmit the virus, and end up in the hospital even after being jabbed four times.

    I don’t think that this is correct.

    The fact that some vaccinated people get Covid tells us that the vaccines are not 100% effective.  I don’t think that anyone paying attention thought that they were 100% effective.

    A small number — or even a large number — of vaccinated people being infected doesn’t even tell us how effective the vaccines may be.  This can only be determined by comparing infection rates among the vaccinated and unvaccinated, which can be complex, as doing so properly requires adjusting for any demographic differences between the two groups.

    There are also several levels of effectiveness for the Covid vaccines — effectiveness against any infection; against symptomatic infection; against hospitalization; against death.  As I recall, the data in the first year or so indicated that the effectiveness of the vaccines was higher for the more serious outcomes.

    This isn’t too complicated, is it?

    An example might help to illustrate the point.  There is a great deal of data indicating that wearing a seat belt reduces the risk of serious injury or death in an auto crash.  There are occasions, of course, when a belted person is nevertheless seriously injured or killed in such a crash.  The existence of such examples does not prove that seat belts do not work.  It only proves that they are not 100% effective.

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  15. Old Bathos Moderator
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    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    RushBabe49: All of the above were fully vaccinated and had two booster shots. What does that tell anyone with a working brain? It tells us that the so-called vaccines do not work. We have already been told that yeah, you can still get sick, transmit the virus, and end up in the hospital even after being jabbed four times.

    I don’t think that this is correct.

    The fact that some vaccinated people get Covid tells us that the vaccines are not 100% effective. I don’t think that anyone paying attention thought that they were 100% effective.

    A small number — or even a large number — of vaccinated people being infected doesn’t even tell us how effective the vaccines may be. This can only be determined by comparing infection rates among the vaccinated and unvaccinated, which can be complex, as doing so properly requires adjusting for any demographic differences between the two groups.

    There are also several levels of effectiveness for the Covid vaccines — effectiveness against any infection; against symptomatic infection; against hospitalization; against death. As I recall, the data in the first year or so indicated that the effectiveness of the vaccines was higher for the more serious outcomes.

    This isn’t too complicated, is it?

    An example might help to illustrate the point. There is a great deal of data indicating that wearing a seat belt reduces the risk of serious injury or death in an auto crash. There are occasions, of course, when a belted person is nevertheless seriously injured or killed in such a crash. The existence of such examples does not prove that seat belts do not work. It only proves that they are not 100% effective.

    Vaccination reduces the severity of symptoms for at least 3-6 months.  Vaccination does not prevent infection or re-infection and thus also does not reduce spread.  Given that the initial promise/selling point (and the basis for mandatory vaccination) was the reduction/elimination of spread it would not be wrong to say that the vaccines are ineffective with respect to their stated purpose. 

    Proponents of seat belts never promised they would reduce the incidence of collisions, only that the likelihood and degree of injury would be lessened in the event of a collision.  Vaccines were not promoted with the same level of candor and factual basis.

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  16. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patriot) Member
    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patriot)
    @ArizonaPatriot

    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    RushBabe49: All of the above were fully vaccinated and had two booster shots. What does that tell anyone with a working brain? It tells us that the so-called vaccines do not work. We have already been told that yeah, you can still get sick, transmit the virus, and end up in the hospital even after being jabbed four times.

    I don’t think that this is correct.

    The fact that some vaccinated people get Covid tells us that the vaccines are not 100% effective. I don’t think that anyone paying attention thought that they were 100% effective.

    A small number — or even a large number — of vaccinated people being infected doesn’t even tell us how effective the vaccines may be. This can only be determined by comparing infection rates among the vaccinated and unvaccinated, which can be complex, as doing so properly requires adjusting for any demographic differences between the two groups.

    There are also several levels of effectiveness for the Covid vaccines — effectiveness against any infection; against symptomatic infection; against hospitalization; against death. As I recall, the data in the first year or so indicated that the effectiveness of the vaccines was higher for the more serious outcomes.

    This isn’t too complicated, is it?

    An example might help to illustrate the point. There is a great deal of data indicating that wearing a seat belt reduces the risk of serious injury or death in an auto crash. There are occasions, of course, when a belted person is nevertheless seriously injured or killed in such a crash. The existence of such examples does not prove that seat belts do not work. It only proves that they are not 100% effective.

    Vaccination reduces the severity of symptoms for at least 3-6 months. Vaccination does not prevent infection or re-infection and thus also does not reduce spread. Given that the initial promise/selling point (and the basis for mandatory vaccination) was the reduction/elimination of spread it would not be wrong to say that the vaccines are ineffective with respect to their stated purpose.

    Proponents of seat belts never promised they would reduce the incidence of collisions, only that the likelihood and degree of injury would be lessened in the event of a collision. Vaccines were not promoted with the same level of candor and factual basis.

    I haven’t seen information about the effectiveness of the vaccines in the past 6-12 months.  Do you have a source of data for this?

    Your statement that “Vaccination does not prevent infection or re-infection and thus also does not reduce spread” is not correct, as a logical matter.  If vaccination reduces the rate of infection or re-infection, then it might also reduce spread.  I don’t know whether the vaccines do so or not, at present, though I did see quite a bit of data a year or so ago that indicated that the vaccines were effective at that time.

    I disagree with your assertion about the “level of candor” used for vaccine promotion.  I recall good, effective communication about this.  I do also recall sound-bites, mere statements like “the vaccines are safe and effective,” which didn’t provide as much detail.  If you looked for the detail at the time, you could find it.  Many people seem to have such short attention spans that I don’t blame those who provide the sound-bites.  I seem to recall Trump being one of those, because if you only have 15 or 20 seconds to make your point, you can’t provide much detail.

    My point stands, I think.  The claim in the OP that the vaccines are ineffective is not supported by the data provided.  No one is providing any more data.  Rather than arguing about perceptions, it might be more helpful for someone to do the work of finding us a good source for the effectiveness of the vaccines at present.

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  17. RushBabe49 Thatcher
    RushBabe49
    @RushBabe49

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    RushBabe49: All of the above were fully vaccinated and had two booster shots. What does that tell anyone with a working brain? It tells us that the so-called vaccines do not work. We have already been told that yeah, you can still get sick, transmit the virus, and end up in the hospital even after being jabbed four times.

    I don’t think that this is correct.

    The fact that some vaccinated people get Covid tells us that the vaccines are not 100% effective. I don’t think that anyone paying attention thought that they were 100% effective.

    A small number — or even a large number — of vaccinated people being infected doesn’t even tell us how effective the vaccines may be. This can only be determined by comparing infection rates among the vaccinated and unvaccinated, which can be complex, as doing so properly requires adjusting for any demographic differences between the two groups.

    There are also several levels of effectiveness for the Covid vaccines — effectiveness against any infection; against symptomatic infection; against hospitalization; against death. As I recall, the data in the first year or so indicated that the effectiveness of the vaccines was higher for the more serious outcomes.

    This isn’t too complicated, is it?

    An example might help to illustrate the point. There is a great deal of data indicating that wearing a seat belt reduces the risk of serious injury or death in an auto crash. There are occasions, of course, when a belted person is nevertheless seriously injured or killed in such a crash. The existence of such examples does not prove that seat belts do not work. It only proves that they are not 100% effective.

    Wet-blanket strikes again.  And do you really think that wearing a seat belt compares in any way to the bodily-invasion of a hypodermic injection?!  Any shot, by definition, affects the workings of your body!  People have died immediately after receiving a Covid shot-how many routine vaccinations have as a side effect, death?  None!

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  18. Old Bathos Moderator
    Old Bathos
    @OldBathos

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    RushBabe49: All of the above were fully vaccinated and had two booster shots. What does that tell anyone with a working brain? It tells us that the so-called vaccines do not work. We have already been told that yeah, you can still get sick, transmit the virus, and end up in the hospital even after being jabbed four times.

    I don’t think that this is correct.

    The fact that some vaccinated people get Covid tells us that the vaccines are not 100% effective. I don’t think that anyone paying attention thought that they were 100% effective.

    A small number — or even a large number — of vaccinated people being infected doesn’t even tell us how effective the vaccines may be. This can only be determined by comparing infection rates among the vaccinated and unvaccinated, which can be complex, as doing so properly requires adjusting for any demographic differences between the two groups.

    There are also several levels of effectiveness for the Covid vaccines — effectiveness against any infection; against symptomatic infection; against hospitalization; against death. As I recall, the data in the first year or so indicated that the effectiveness of the vaccines was higher for the more serious outcomes.

    This isn’t too complicated, is it?

    An example might help to illustrate the point. There is a great deal of data indicating that wearing a seat belt reduces the risk of serious injury or death in an auto crash. There are occasions, of course, when a belted person is nevertheless seriously injured or killed in such a crash. The existence of such examples does not prove that seat belts do not work. It only proves that they are not 100% effective.

    Vaccination reduces the severity of symptoms for at least 3-6 months. Vaccination does not prevent infection or re-infection and thus also does not reduce spread. Given that the initial promise/selling point (and the basis for mandatory vaccination) was the reduction/elimination of spread it would not be wrong to say that the vaccines are ineffective with respect to their stated purpose.

    Proponents of seat belts never promised they would reduce the incidence of collisions, only that the likelihood and degree of injury would be lessened in the event of a collision. Vaccines were not promoted with the same level of candor and factual basis.

    I haven’t seen information about the effectiveness of the vaccines in the past 6-12 months. Do you have a source of data for this?

    Your statement that “Vaccination does not prevent infection or re-infection and thus also does not reduce spread” is not correct, as a logical matter. If vaccination reduces the rate of infection or re-infection, then it might also reduce spread. I don’t know whether the vaccines do so or not, at present, though I did see quite a bit of data a year or so ago that indicated that the vaccines were effective at that time.

    I disagree with your assertion about the “level of candor” used for vaccine promotion. I recall good, effective communication about this. I do also recall sound-bites, mere statements like “the vaccines are safe and effective,” which didn’t provide as much detail. If you looked for the detail at the time, you could find it. Many people seem to have such short attention spans that I don’t blame those who provide the sound-bites. I seem to recall Trump being one of those, because if you only have 15 or 20 seconds to make your point, you can’t provide much detail.

    My point stands, I think. The claim in the OP that the vaccines are ineffective is not supported by the data provided. No one is providing any more data. Rather than arguing about perceptions, it might be more helpful for someone to do the work of finding us a good source for the effectiveness of the vaccines at present.

    Rather than wade through data about declining effectiveness against Omicron, relative infection rates etc let’s start with something simple in what may be the most vaccinated country in Europe:

    It is simply not possible to claim effectiveness against infection when vaccination rates are this high and cases are also high.  We can pick the flysh*t out of the pepper and try to claim lessening risk of limited duration (can I get a harrumph ?) but trying to twist that into a prevention narrative consistent with our understanding of the word “vaccine” is simply silly. The vaccines are more like a prophylactic dose of Theraflu–not a prevention of cure but may help keep symptoms down–for a while. 

    We were expressly told that vaccination would “give us our lives back”, eliminate the need for masks and end the spread. Absolutely nobody told us during the rollout that the vaccines would be largely ineffective against infection nd only reduce symptoms. We used the term “breakthrough infection” as if a vaccinated person being COVID positive was going to be some kind of rare event rather than the norm for future cases.

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  19. MarciN Member
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    RushBabe49 (View Comment):
    And do you really think that wearing a seat belt compares in any way to the bodily-invasion of a hypodermic injection?!

    Actually, I have long wondered about this.

    I think they may be a causative factor in serious accidents because they discourage active driving–that is, they keep drivers from looking around them while they are driving.

    I won’t wear the shoulder strap for that reason. It’s too tight. And I find that it makes me passive as a driver instead of turning all the way around as I should in order to be a careful driver.

    And it is exactly the same issue as the vaccines: Who in government is going to tell the truth about seatbelts? How would I ever find out if it is actually a cause of accidents? Especially among older drivers who tend to settle into the seat anyway and think a luxury car is one that is super comfortable and gives a smooth ride? They are interested in a relaxing ride. But they are also the ones with less upper body flexibility in the first place, and they are the ones who process confusion with the most difficulty (and traffic is often confusing), and they are the ones with slight vision and hearing impairments–not enough to keep them from driving but enough to keep them doing it really well and attentively.

    I had a Jeep Cherokee for about 10 years, and it was the best car I have ever had. Complete 360-degree visibility. The windows are set very low in the doors. Easy to turn around and look behind me. And the ride was bumpy–there was some sense that I was driving on a road outside. I felt very connected to the environment outside the Jeep. It’s an attention and awareness issue. The driving experience is very different from other vehicles.

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  20. Columbo Member
    Columbo
    @Columbo

    Look what these lying bastards did to pregnant women ….

    https://amgreatness.com/2022/08/16/report-44-percent-of-pregnant-women-in-pfizer-trial-lost-their-babies-fda-and-cdc-recommended-jabs-for-expectant-mothers-anyway/

     

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  21. OldPhil Coolidge
    OldPhil
    @OldPhil

    After the two initial shots and a booster, I got Covid in January, although it was basically a sore throat and headache. At my annual checkup in March, my doctor said “We’ll just assume your case was your second booster.”

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  22. Terry Mott Member
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    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    We were expressly told that vaccination would “give us our lives back”, eliminate the need for masks and end the spread. Absolutely nobody told us during the rollout that the vaccines would be largely ineffective against infection nd only reduce symptoms. We used the term “breakthrough infection” as if a vaccinated person being COVID positive was going to be some kind of rare event rather than the norm for future cases.

    Mandates.

    If the vaccine doesn’t prevent spread of the disease then there’s no justification for vaccine mandates.  And yet we got mandates.  “Akshually, no one claimed the vaccines prevented spread,” is gaslighting.

    My family is not vaccinated.  We all caught the Delta variant from a young man who was fully vaxed, who had in turn caught it from his boss who was fully vaxed.  At that time, the media and government were vax-shaming everyone who wasn’t vaxed as being solely responsible for spreading the WuFlu.  “Pandemic of the unvaccinated” was a real talking point.

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  23. MiMac Thatcher
    MiMac
    @MiMac

    Columbo (View Comment):

    Look what these lying bastards did to pregnant women ….

    https://amgreatness.com/2022/08/16/report-44-percent-of-pregnant-women-in-pfizer-trial-lost-their-babies-fda-and-cdc-recommended-jabs-for-expectant-mothers-anyway/

    I suspect the lying bastards aren’t at Pfizer:

    a)apparently her reading of the file is incorrect-she double counted the number of miscarriages & we do not know the denominator-even Alex Berenson finds her sloppy & conspiratorial:

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1559949374381244416.html

    b) Her Bannon interview has a number of inaccuracies:

    https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/large-scale-studies-found-covid-19-vaccination-doesnt-increase-risk-negative-pregnancy-outcomes-contrary-to-claim-naomi-wolf/

    as done before by anti-vaxxers on previous claims about miscarriages and the vaccines, some of the numbers Wolf claims include elective abortions (hard to blame those on Pfizer):

    “Note the data provided do not distinguish between stillbirths, miscarriages (sometimes referred to as spontaneous abortions) or late- or early-term abortions undertaken for medical or other reasons.”

    https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/large-scale-studies-found-covid-19-vaccination-doesnt-increase-risk-negative-pregnancy-outcomes-contrary-to-claim-naomi-wolf/

    Also-if you look back just a couple of months ago anti-vaxxers claimed that 86%+ of the mothers in the Pfizer trial miscarried- but they were wrong then:

    https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-pfizer-documentpregnant-idUSL1N2U81ZL

    I would be careful listening to Naomi Wolf about almost anything- especially vaccines,  5G, or American funding of ISIS.

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  24. Unsk Member
    Unsk
    @Unsk

    From David Horowitz at Conservative Review:

    “According to data from Techniker Krankenkasse, the largest German medical insurance company, there were a total of 437,593 insurance claims billed under the four diagnostic codes for vaccine injury in 2021″

    “As the Daily Skeptic notes, given that TK insures 11 million people, that means 1 in 23, or 4.3%, had a medical treatment billed for vaccine injury. And that assumes all 11 million were vaccinated. The background vaccination rate in Germany is 78%, although most of the unvaccinated are children, so the rate of injury per vaccinated person is likely even higher (5.1%).”

    “Putting aside confounding factors, but just to provide a rough estimate to open your mind to the scope of this problem, a 4.3% clinical level injury rate, if extrapolated for the 223 million vaccinated in the United Sates, would equal approximately 9.6 million injured Americans. While that number sounds unconscionable, remember that this data harmonizes almost perfectly with the Israeli health ministry survey that found a 4.5% rate of neurological side effects just from those who received booster shots (not total doses, which is likely more). “

    “However, this data, and the extrapolation for the U.S. population, is even more credible when you look at the VAERS data. The total number of reported hospitalizations, urgent care visits, or doctor’s visits reported to VAERS (just for the U.S.) for the COVID shots as of Aug. 5 is 337,579.”

    “If you just take the data from VAERS and the EudraVigilance system of the European Medicines Agency, there were a total of 76,253 dead and 6,033,218 injured, as of mid-July. That in itself is mind-blowing, but if you adjust for an underreporting factor of 41, that would total nearly 1.9 million deaths and 247 million injuries! Amazingly, yet sickeningly, 247 million injuries would equal 4.6% of all the people jabbed on this third rock from the sun – nearly exactly the extrapolated rate of injury from the German medical billing data!”

    The amount of people dying is off the charts. This is murder. Plain and simple.  Where are the prosecutions? Why are people losing their jobs because they won’t take a fraudulent VAX shot that could seriously maim or kill them? And we are not talking even about government jobs; most of Corporate America requires it, as do almost all Colleges and Universities, as do anyone working in the Entertainment industry and likely as do people in the Tech field.   At the very least, that should be several counts of manslaughter for those ordering people to take this deadly VAX, because these deaths.

    From  a FOIA request of the Pfizer VAX, it was found that in the terribly abbreviated Pfizer VAX  drug trials that there were over 1,000 “unusual” side effects in the Pfizer vax. .  Were any of you advised of those side effects? No, you were told they were ‘safe”; an outright fraud.

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  25. MiMac Thatcher
    MiMac
    @MiMac

    Unsk (View Comment):

    From David Horowitz at Conservative Review:

    “According to data from Techniker Krankenkasse, the largest German medical insurance company, there were a total of 437,593 insurance claims billed under the four diagnostic codes for vaccine injury in 2021″

    “As the Daily Skeptic notes, given that TK insures 11 million people, that means 1 in 23, or 4.3%, had a medical treatment billed for vaccine injury. And that assumes all 11 million were vaccinated. The background vaccination rate in Germany is 78%, although most of the unvaccinated are children, so the rate of injury per vaccinated person is likely even higher (5.1%).”

    “Putting aside confounding factors, but just to provide a rough estimate to open your mind to the scope of this problem, a 4.3% clinical level injury rate, if extrapolated for the 223 million vaccinated in the United Sates, would equal approximately 9.6 million injured Americans. While that number sounds unconscionable, remember that this data harmonizes almost perfectly with the Israeli health ministry survey that found a 4.5% rate of neurological side effects just from those who received booster shots (not total doses, which is likely more). “

    “However, this data, and the extrapolation for the U.S. population, is even more credible when you look at the VAERS data. The total number of reported hospitalizations, urgent care visits, or doctor’s visits reported to VAERS (just for the U.S.) for the COVID shots as of Aug. 5 is 337,579.”

    “If you just take the data from VAERS and the EudraVigilance system of the European Medicines Agency, there were a total of 76,253 dead and 6,033,218 injured, as of mid-July. That in itself is mind-blowing, but if you adjust for an underreporting factor of 41, that would total nearly 1.9 million deaths and 247 million injuries! Amazingly, yet sickeningly, 247 million injuries would equal 4.6% of all the people jabbed on this third rock from the sun – nearly exactly the extrapolated rate of injury from the German medical billing data!”

    The amount of people dying is off the charts. This is murder. Plain and simple. Where are the prosecutions? Why are people losing their jobs because they won’t take a fraudulent VAX shot that could seriously maim or kill them? And we are not talking even about government jobs; most of Corporate America requires it, as do almost all Colleges and Universities, as do anyone working in the Entertainment industry and likely as do people in the Tech field. At the very least, that should be several counts of manslaughter for those ordering people to take this deadly VAX, because these deaths.

    From a FOIA request of the Pfizer VAX, it was found that in the terribly abbreviated Pfizer VAX drug trials that there were over 1,000 “unusual” side effects in the Pfizer vax. . Were any of you advised of those side effects? No, you were told they were ‘safe”; an outright fraud.

    A)The German insurer (TK) data is meaningless- the 4 codes they specified “represent both typical, comparatively harmless vaccination reactions…as well as rare side effects” and furthermore “TK spokesperson Michael Ihly said:[N]o statements on severe vaccination side effects are possible with these data……It is now being used in relevant Internet forums to question the safety of COVID vaccines and to accuse the PEI of a cover-up. These conclusions are wrong and cannot be derived from the evaluated data.”

    https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2022/08/fact-check-1-in-25-clients-of-germanys-largest-health-insurer-were-not-treated-for-covid-vaccine-side-effects-in-2021.html

    B)VAERS and EudraVigilance (the European database)  don’t give you incidence data nor cause of the adverse event. If a death or “side effect” is reported it does not mean it was due to the vaccine- it is a surveillance database, an early warning system to look for rare events not seen in the trial. The posting of events is open to anyone with internet access and people have reported they “turned green & grew large muscles”-ie became the Incredible Hulk,\ and others that their private parts grew 10 times larger etc etc. The article you cite is bogus- the USA has not reported 29K deaths from the vaccine (as of 8/2/2022 & after 606M doses in the USA there were  15,930 deaths reported-reported to the database, that doesn’t mean from the vaccine) and the EMA data is like the VAERS-their website specifically says “Information on suspected side effects should not be interpreted as meaning that the medicine or the active substance causes the observed effect”. These databases are dumpster dived by anti-vaxxers to mislead people-the anti-vaxxers claim all deaths are from the vax not with the vax, but all COVID deaths are with COVID but not from COVID. Older people are more likely to be vaxxed and more likely to die in the near term.

    C) “The amount of people dying is off the charts”-really? Where are they burying them all? Where is the giant pit they are thrown into? How are they explaining their deaths to their families?

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  26. Annefy Member
    Annefy
    @Annefy

    Just an interesting story.

    My hairdresser’s elderly mother (86) recently took a fall and broke her pelvis. She got fixed up at the hospital and her daughters wanted her to go to rehab for a few weeks to recover as she needs a lot of help.

    Because she had had only two shots, no boosters, they couldn’t find a place that would take her. She is now recovering in my hairdresser’s second story apartment.

    PS When she was in the hospital they discovered a large blood clot in one of her legs.

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  27. Unsk Member
    Unsk
    @Unsk

    MiMac: B)VAERS and EudraVigilance (the European database)  don’t give you incidence data nor cause of the adverse event. If a death or “side effect” is reported it does not mean it was due to the vaccine

     The medical authorities absolutely did not want to correlate their deaths to the obvious cause- the VAX,for fear of the the oppressive regime we live under, which is not too different to the tactics used by the FBI.

    The Bhakdi/Burkhardt pathology studies were carried out at the request of the relatives whose loved ones  mysteriously died, and of which public  authorities refused to assign any blame to the VAX even though that was the most obvious cause. 14 of the 15 studied were found to have died from the mRNA after the autopsies, but worse than that the Drs Bhakdi and Burhardt who performed the autopsies were shocked and literally sickened  at how the mRNA vaccines had attacked the bodies of the deceased in all sorts of frightening ways.

    I know Doctors who’ve   treated mRNA VAX injuries and they say that the bloodwork of the VAX  injury patients  they treat under the microscope is often distinctly and disturbingly abnormal, and they say that other autopsies have found that “blood clots” so often reported from the VAX are also strangely abnormal. They say the clots are much longer than normal, are very brittle and seem to have some sort of metallic  structures that crack and pop.  Anyone who has taken the Jab, and  who is familiar with the multitude of studies that show an unbelievable number of strange maladies caused by the VAX should be seriously concerned for their health.

    How do you explain the huge 30-40% increase in deaths since the introduction of deaths reported here and other countries by insurance companies and public health agencies  in places like  Scotland, Germany and Canada? There is no other credible reason for these hundreds of thousands of deaths other than the Jab.

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  28. Annefy Member
    Annefy
    @Annefy

    To tailgate with @unsk.  I’ve been morbidly keeping a “ghoul” list since early 2020. Those in my circle who have died or suffered. To make the list, I need to know you, or you need to be known by JY or one of my kids (there’s four of them. miscreants all)

    Those lists are really, really long. Granted, some are due to the lockdown (the three suicides and the two undiagnosed cancers = 5) but there are many blood clots. And seizures. And heart attacks. And strokes. And a couple of “hey! who saw that coming?” And no one is on the list is older than me (63) Except for a beloved granny of a good friend; a wonderful and stately woman with a capable bosom. She died, 5″7″, weighing 90 lbs after being denied the company of her loved ones.

    Now, I’ve never been 63 before. But I was an adult when my parents were 63, and I don’t remember them going to as many funerals, nor had as many suffering friends, as I have right now. My prayer list is very, very long.

    There’s something happening here. What it is, ain’t exactly clear …

    It’s clear to me.

    PS I know “of” one person who died of Covid. Def my shortest list.

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  29. Annefy Member
    Annefy
    @Annefy

    duplicate

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  30. The Cloaked Gaijin Member
    The Cloaked Gaijin
    @TheCloakedGaijin

    Conservative Review would be Daniel Horowitz, not David Horowitz.

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