When Is ‘Enough’ Enough? A President’s Home Violated by the FBI

 

Could this be “the tipping point” we hear about all the time? This has never happened in American history:

Question: if you were trying to foment a Second Civil War in America, what would you do differently from what these street thugs are doing right now? I write this after learning of the FBI’s training materials teaching agents to be on the lookout for “Militia Violent Extremists” who revere the Betsy Ross Flag, the Gadsden Flag, the Molon Labe flag, and who view Ashli Babbitt as a martyr. I am all of those and more and have researched and written extensively about why it is clear that Ashli Babbitt was murdered by Pelosi’s lackey on January 6.

No President in our history has been subject to this kind of blatant, raw, Gestapo-like use of blind force. I am very concerned about this act of what is clearly an out-of-control renegade law enforcement agency, deeply corrupted by political influence, and led by one of the sleaziest Directors in its history. In fact, it may trigger some of those who are devoted to President Trump and what he accomplished for us into some retaliatory action the nature of which cannot possibly be predicted, not even by “geniuses” such as Director Wray and the Drooler-in-Chief.

In my opinion, for what it’s worth, this is a dangerous moment for our country, as if we don’t have quite enough on our plate due to the monumental incompetence and radicalism of this Potemkin “Presidency,” and I fear, based on the evidence as I see it, we are more rapidly than most citizens realize moving into the beginnings of a real police state.

Pray for America.

God Bless America!

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  1. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Come on ricochet never trumpers defend it.

     

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  2. Rodin Member
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    NT: The constitution does not apply to Donald Trump or anyone who voted for him, voiced approval of anything he did, and even wears a red cap regardless of what is written on it.

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  3. Columbo Member
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Come on ricochet never trumpers defend it.

     

    Yeah, at @garyrobbins. You have an opinion about everything. What do you say about this?

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  4. Columbo Member
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    Columbo (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Come on ricochet never trumpers defend it.

     

    Yeah, at @ garyrobbins. You have an opinion about everything. What do you say about this?

     

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  5. Flicker Coolidge
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    Let Gary sit this one out.

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  6. Seawriter Contributor
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    Let Gary sit this one out.

    In the middle of the room, wearing a dunce cap.

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  7. Hang On Member
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    From what I’m reading, they were looking for documents and something that has the deep state spooked. The government probably does not have a copy of the documents because they have been deleted and destroyed. When Biden says he didn’t know anything about it, that’s probably true. It also shows he isn’t in charge. Garland almost certainly knew, but then that’s easy to understand given his background in the FBI. He’ll do whatever he’s told.

    The Deep State is terrified and they are in their death throes. We need Senator Paul to play the role of Sen. Church.

    Frankly, this is great news.

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  8. David C. Broussard Coolidge
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    If there was a serious crime committed by Trump then this is justified. The problem is, who would trust the FBI at this point? These are the same guys who used an obviously fake OPPO research paper to justify spying on the Trump campaign, and who falsified FISA warrants to continue doing so. The same people who tried to setup an “insurance policy” to stop Trump and who’s director tried to entrap his boss.

    These guys have zero credibility. 

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  9. DonG (CAGW is a Scam) Coolidge
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    Hang On (View Comment):
    The Deep State is terrified and they are in their death throes.

    It doesn’t feel that way to me.   It feels more like they are flexing their muscles.

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  10. Victor Tango Kilo Member
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    Note: Not a single person on Ghislaine Maxwell’s client list has been raided. 

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  11. The Scarecrow Thatcher
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    Let Gary sit this one out.

    Yes. Gary is irrelevant when it comes to Trump. Just ignore him, stop needing him to account for anything. Stop feeding him.

    Other than Trump issues, Gary may have interesting things to say, so he should always be given a listen, just in case.

    But by you lot. I have no more patience with his nonsense. I love him as a fellow human, but I don’t care to hear his views, or his grudging admittances. 

    It’s a case of mind over matter. I don’t mind, and he doesn’t matter. All good here.

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  12. Stina Member
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    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):

    Hang On (View Comment):
    The Deep State is terrified and they are in their death throes.

    It doesn’t feel that way to me. It feels more like they are flexing their muscles.

    Wounded bears and all that jazz. I don’t think Hang On’s point is for us to rest on laurels. I think it’s a good point that this may mean we are making progress and to be encouraged by it and to keep fighting.

    Specifically, I’d say keep pushing back on the Trump Is Bad messaging and to support our Allies.

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  13. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    The utter silence is telling

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  14. Columbo Member
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    David C. Broussard (View Comment):

    If there was a serious crime committed by Trump then this is justified. The problem is, who would trust the FBI at this point? These are the same guys who used an obviously fake OPPO research paper to justify spying on the Trump campaign, and who falsified FISA warrants to continue doing so. The same people who tried to setup an “insurance policy” to stop Trump and who’s director tried to entrap his boss.

    These guys have zero credibility.

     

    This is greatly outdated. New boss same as the old boss.

     

     

     

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  15. GrannyDude Member
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    Hang On (View Comment):

    From what I’m reading, they were looking for documents and something that has the deep state spooked. The government probably does not have a copy of the documents because they have been deleted and destroyed. When Biden says he didn’t know anything about it, that’s probably true. It also shows he isn’t in charge. Garland almost certainly knew, but then that’s easy to understand given his background in the FBI. He’ll do whatever he’s told.

    The Deep State is terrified and they are in their death throes. We need Senator Paul to play the role of Sen. Church.

    Frankly, this is great news.

    Boy am I going to @Hang On to this today!

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  16. Hang On Member
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    David C. Broussard (View Comment):

    If there was a serious crime committed by Trump then this is justified. The problem is, who would trust the FBI at this point? These are the same guys who used an obviously fake OPPO research paper to justify spying on the Trump campaign, and who falsified FISA warrants to continue doing so. The same people who tried to setup an “insurance policy” to stop Trump and who’s director tried to entrap his boss.

    These guys have zero credibility.

    The documents they were looking for almost certainly had to do with the FISA warrants and the Russia hoax and the role of the FBI and CIA in its perpetration. Radcliffe gave Trump a large stash of documents at the end of Trump’s administration about the Russia hoax. Trump declassified them. But the bureaucracy waited him out and did not release the documents. These documents both physical and electronic were then probably destroyed. Trump has the last copies. 

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  17. Hang On Member
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    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):

    Hang On (View Comment):
    The Deep State is terrified and they are in their death throes.

    It doesn’t feel that way to me. It feels more like they are flexing their muscles.

    Who publicized the raid? It wasn’t the FBI. They didn’t have CNN cameras waiting to publicize this. And CNN is the CIA/FBI network.  It was Trump who publicized this.

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  18. MWD B612 "Dawg" Member
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    David C. Broussard (View Comment):

    If there was a serious crime committed by Trump then this is justified. The problem is, who would trust the FBI at this point? These are the same guys who used an obviously fake OPPO research paper to justify spying on the Trump campaign, and who falsified FISA warrants to continue doing so. The same people who tried to setup an “insurance policy” to stop Trump and who’s director tried to entrap his boss.

    These guys have zero credibility.

    Charles C. W. Cooke has a post on NRO’s “The Corner” in which he sums up this thoughts (the whole thing is worth a read):

    I know nothing more about the details than anyone else, but I’ll lay out my own views on this as best I can. They are:

    • that the warrant must immediately be made public
    • that as the head of the executive branch — progressive wishes to the contrary, the DOJ is not some free-floating fourth branch of government, it is under the president’s purview — Joe Biden must explain to the country what happened today
    • that, for the raid to be justified, the warrant and the explanation must clearly reveal (a) that there was an urgent need to obtain evidence that pertained to a serious crime, (b) that this evidence could not possibly have been obtained by other means, or on another occasion, or without a surprise visit, and (c) that, if the target was not named Donald Trump, a similar operation would have been launched
    • that if this standard is not met, Merrick Garland must resign or be impeached, as must the head of the FBI
    • that the FBI must be examined and reformed as a matter of utmost priority
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  19. David C. Broussard Coolidge
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    MWD B612 "Dawg" (View Comment):

     

    I know nothing more about the details than anyone else, but I’ll lay out my own views on this as best I can. They are:

    • that the warrant must immediately be made public

    That it hasn’t been made public already tells us it won’t be. Unless, they found something they can use to indict Trump, then the warrant will be modified to allow it. 

    • that as the head of the executive branch — progressive wishes to the contrary, the DOJ is not some free-floating fourth branch of government, it is under the president’s purview — Joe Biden must explain to the country what happened today

    LOL, can you imagine Joe taking questions on this? Can you imagine him being coherent? 

    • that, for the raid to be justified, the warrant and the explanation must clearly reveal (a) that there was an urgent need to obtain evidence that pertained to a serious crime, (b) that this evidence could not possibly have been obtained by other means, or on another occasion, or without a surprise visit, and (c) that, if the target was not named Donald Trump, a similar operation would have been launched

    If any of this was true, the media would already be reporting on it. They reported on the Steele Dossier for years which was completely false after all. 

    • that if this standard is not met, Merrick Garland must resign or be impeached, as must the head of the FBI
    • that the FBI must be examined and reformed as a matter of utmost priority

    LOL, never happen. First off, the House wouldn’t even consider it until, maybe, Jan of 23, assuming the GOP can win enough seats. Then assuming that McCarthy is first off willing to do something, and second, is capable of being effective. Both are doubtful.

    At this point, we could eliminate the entire FBI and DoJ and we would be better off as a country. 

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  20. MWD B612 "Dawg" Member
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    David C. Broussard (View Comment):

    MWD B612 "Dawg" (View Comment):

     

    I know nothing more about the details than anyone else, but I’ll lay out my own views on this as best I can. They are:

    • that the warrant must immediately be made public

    That it hasn’t been made public already tells us it won’t be. Unless, they found something they can use to indict Trump, then the warrant will be modified to allow it.

    • that as the head of the executive branch — progressive wishes to the contrary, the DOJ is not some free-floating fourth branch of government, it is under the president’s purview — Joe Biden must explain to the country what happened today

    LOL, can you imagine Joe taking questions on this? Can you imagine him being coherent?

    • that, for the raid to be justified, the warrant and the explanation must clearly reveal (a) that there was an urgent need to obtain evidence that pertained to a serious crime, (b) that this evidence could not possibly have been obtained by other means, or on another occasion, or without a surprise visit, and (c) that, if the target was not named Donald Trump, a similar operation would have been launched

    If any of this was true, the media would already be reporting on it. They reported on the Steele Dossier for years which was completely false after all.

    • that if this standard is not met, Merrick Garland must resign or be impeached, as must the head of the FBI
    • that the FBI must be examined and reformed as a matter of utmost priority

    LOL, never happen. First off, the House wouldn’t even consider it until, maybe, Jan of 23, assuming the GOP can win enough seats. Then assuming that McCarthy is first off willing to do something, and second, is capable of being effective. Both are doubtful.

    At this point, we could eliminate the entire FBI and DoJ and we would be better off as a country.

    Oh, I agree with all that (especially your last sentence, David). CCWC’s point in the post was, “What if the warrant wasn’t justified?” He’s just laying out what ought to happen today. We all know it won’t

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  21. Full Size Tabby Member
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    Hang On (View Comment):

    From what I’m reading, they were looking for documents and something that has the deep state spooked. The government probably does not have a copy of the documents because they have been deleted and destroyed. When Biden says he didn’t know anything about it, that’s probably true. It also shows he isn’t in charge. Garland almost certainly knew, but then that’s easy to understand given his background in the FBI. He’ll do whatever he’s told.

    The Deep State is terrified and they are in their death throes. We need Senator Paul to play the role of Sen. Church.

    Frankly, this is great news.

    That President Biden seems to have been told so little is astonishing. It really does say Biden is not in charge of the Biden Administration. Law enforcement knows that raiding the property of a former President will cause enormous issues that will reverberate to every corner of the government, so you don’t do that without extensive consultation of the head of the executive branch  (normally the President).

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  22. MWD B612 "Dawg" Member
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    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):
    That President Biden seems to have been told so little is astonishing. It really does say Biden is not in charge of the Biden Administration.

    It also points to the fact that too many people in government believe the fiction that the DOJ is independent of the President. It absolutely is not. COTUS explicitly vests all Executive power in the President.

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  23. David C. Broussard Coolidge
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    MWD B612 "Dawg" (View Comment):

    David C. Broussard (View Comment):

    MWD B612 "Dawg" (View Comment):

     

    I know nothing more about the details than anyone else, but I’ll lay out my own views on this as best I can. They are:

    • that the warrant must immediately be made public

    That it hasn’t been made public already tells us it won’t be. Unless, they found something they can use to indict Trump, then the warrant will be modified to allow it.

    • that as the head of the executive branch — progressive wishes to the contrary, the DOJ is not some free-floating fourth branch of government, it is under the president’s purview — Joe Biden must explain to the country what happened today

    LOL, can you imagine Joe taking questions on this? Can you imagine him being coherent?

    • that, for the raid to be justified, the warrant and the explanation must clearly reveal (a) that there was an urgent need to obtain evidence that pertained to a serious crime, (b) that this evidence could not possibly have been obtained by other means, or on another occasion, or without a surprise visit, and (c) that, if the target was not named Donald Trump, a similar operation would have been launched

    If any of this was true, the media would already be reporting on it. They reported on the Steele Dossier for years which was completely false after all.

    • that if this standard is not met, Merrick Garland must resign or be impeached, as must the head of the FBI
    • that the FBI must be examined and reformed as a matter of utmost priority

    LOL, never happen. First off, the House wouldn’t even consider it until, maybe, Jan of 23, assuming the GOP can win enough seats. Then assuming that McCarthy is first off willing to do something, and second, is capable of being effective. Both are doubtful.

    At this point, we could eliminate the entire FBI and DoJ and we would be better off as a country.

    Oh, I agree with all that (especially your last sentence, David). CCWC’s point in the post was, “What if the warrant wasn’t justified?” He’s just laying out what ought to happen today. We all know it won’t

    I just was listening to Hugh Hewitt and Byron York. Trump is supposed to get a copy of the warrant and the underlying affidavit and both said he should make it public immediately. Alas, so many times he told people to make things public and they never were. 

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  24. RufusRJones Member
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    The Scarecrow (View Comment):
    Other than Trump issues, Gary may have interesting things to say, so he should always be given a listen, just in case.

    I keep telling him he needs to say something original about public policy. He’s like F minus compared to everybody else in this department. He’s not going to lead anybody anywhere until he does this. 

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  25. Gary Robbins Member
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    Since I have been called out several times in this post that is now part of the Main Feed, I will repeat what I said in a post on the Member Feed:

    I am holding my fire, and waiting to see what develops.  I bought the Russiagate conspiracy and later realized that I spoke too soon, and then walked it back.  I am waiting at least until I can see the Affidavit in support of the search warrant.  I don’t practice criminal law, but my recollection is that within a pretty short time, the person whose home was searched has the right to see the Affidavit in support of the search warrant.  When that happens, I hope that Trump will release all of it.  At that point, I hope that the lawyers at Ricochet can opine on it.

    In L.A. Confidential, there is a scene where the captain says, that it better to not talk to a man when his blood is up.  A lot of people who I respect and care for at Ricochet have their blood up right now.  There is nothing to be served by me getting into the fight when I have a lack of knowledge.

    I wish everyone well.  I want to know more information before speaking further.

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  26. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    From web site: Big League Politics –

    Poll: Over 75 Percent of Americans Believe the Deep State Has Destroyed the Rule of Law – Big League Politics

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  27. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Since I have been called out several times in this post that is now part of the Main Feed, I will repeat what I said in a post on the Member Feed:

    I am holding my fire, and waiting to see what develops. I bought the Russiagate conspiracy and later realized that I spoke too soon, and then walked it back. I am waiting at least until I can see the Affidavit in support of the search warrant. I don’t practice criminal law, but my recollection is that within a pretty short time, the person whose home was searched has the right to see the Affidavit in support of the search warrant. When that happens, I hope that Trump will release all of it. At that point, I hope that the lawyers at Ricochet can opine on it.

    In L.A. Confidential, there is a scene where the captain says, that it better to not talk to a man when his blood is up. A lot of people who I respect and care for at Ricochet have their blood up right now. There is nothing to be served by me getting into the fight when I have a lack of knowledge.

    I wish everyone well. I want to know more information before speaking further.

    Gary —

    Be sure and read this entire graphic, including the bottom yellow frame:

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  28. MWD B612 "Dawg" Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Since I have been called out several times in this post that is now part of the Main Feed, I will repeat what I said in a post on the Member Feed:

    I am holding my fire, and waiting to see what develops. I bought the Russiagate conspiracy and later realized that I spoke too soon, and then walked it back. I am waiting at least until I can see the Affidavit in support of the search warrant. I don’t practice criminal law, but my recollection is that within a pretty short time, the person whose home was searched has the right to see the Affidavit in support of the search warrant. When that happens, I hope that Trump will release all of it. At that point, I hope that the lawyers at Ricochet can opine on it.

    In L.A. Confidential, there is a scene where the captain says, that it better to not talk to a man when his blood is up. A lot of people who I respect and care for at Ricochet have their blood up right now. There is nothing to be served by me getting into the fight when I have a lack of knowledge.

    I wish everyone well. I want to know more information before speaking further.

    FWIW, I’ve given you some grief before, Gary. Yet I respect this approach. You know you got burned, and are willing to wait to comment.

    I think those of us who have so far opined on this are correct, but it’s good to see this.

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  29. Columbo Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Since I have been called out several times in this post that is now part of the Main Feed, I will repeat what I said in a post on the Member Feed:

    I am holding my fire, and waiting to see what develops. I bought the Russiagate conspiracy and later realized that I spoke too, and then walked it back. I am waiting at least until I can see the Affidavit in support of the search warrant. I don’t practice criminal law, but my recollection is that within a pretty short time, the person whose home was searched has the right to see the Affidavit in support of the search warrant. When that happens, I hope that Trump will release all of it. At that point, I hope that the lawyers at Ricochet can opine on it.

    In L.A. Confidential, there is a scene where the captain says, that it better to not talk to a man when his blood is up. A lot of people who I respect and care for at Ricochet have their blood up right now. There is nothing to be served by me getting into the fight when I have a lack of knowledge.

    I wish everyone well. I want to know more information before speaking further.

    I do hope that you will exercise this newly found ‘restraint’ much more around here.

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  30. kedavis Inactive
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    MWD B612 "Dawg" (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Since I have been called out several times in this post that is now part of the Main Feed, I will repeat what I said in a post on the Member Feed:

    I am holding my fire, and waiting to see what develops. I bought the Russiagate conspiracy and later realized that I spoke too soon, and then walked it back. I am waiting at least until I can see the Affidavit in support of the search warrant. I don’t practice criminal law, but my recollection is that within a pretty short time, the person whose home was searched has the right to see the Affidavit in support of the search warrant. When that happens, I hope that Trump will release all of it. At that point, I hope that the lawyers at Ricochet can opine on it.

    In L.A. Confidential, there is a scene where the captain says, that it better to not talk to a man when his blood is up. A lot of people who I respect and care for at Ricochet have their blood up right now. There is nothing to be served by me getting into the fight when I have a lack of knowledge.

    I wish everyone well. I want to know more information before speaking further.

    FWIW, I’ve given you some grief before, Gary. Yet I respect this approach. You know you got burned, and are willing to wait to comment.

    I think those of us who have so far opined on this are correct, but it’s good to see this.

    I’m not optimistic, since it took him YEARS to figure out he was wrong about Russiagate.

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