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Where Were You on June 9, 2022?
On the ninth day of the sixth month, in the year of our Lord Two Thousand Twenty-Two, the American House of Representatives convened a television show about a political protest some years earlier. The clips from this show will be used as “facts” for elections in 2022 and 2024. These clips will be used by Democrat campaigns, of course, but more to the point, they will be used by the state-run media to condition voters and vote managers. The more people in on the next steal, the less work each plotter involved must do.
I cannot rate the show very highly. It has terrible pacing and features weak performances from the usual crew of identical new faces who for some reason keep showing up on our screens. It wasn’t like this in the old days. It used to be that a show needed some strong performances and tight writing to get popular. There was a kind of platinum age of television heralded by the beloved but now-unwatchable “Babylon 5,” which was a watershed in long-arc, multi-season plotting of a broadcast series. Shows followed in different genres: “The Sopranos,” “Battlestar Galactica,” “Dexter,” “Game of Thrones,” “Breaking Bad,” “Better Call Saul.” This current offering from the House is poorly done. It’s amazing it got greenlit.
I never watched the Sopranos until these days. I’m midway through the fourth Season.
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Wow. So the politics from the summer of 2020 had another casualty. Thanks for this.
I completely forgot about that part of the summer riots.
That just makes last nights “hearing” all them more ridiculous
While I agree with the rest of your comment, I think that this is pure fantasy. The GOP, almost to a person, just want this to go away. Maybe that is a good thing because going after prior political foes isn’t productive overall, but I do completely agree with the sentiment. They got away with this, and will do it again.
Palatable or criminal? There is a massive difference. Bill Clinton having an affair with an intern is unpalatable. Bill Clinton obstructing justice is criminal.
FWIW:
https://pjmedia.com/columns/marktapscott/2022/06/09/eight-key-questions-the-january-6-committee-will-not-answer-and-one-nancy-pelosi-cant-avoid-n1604460
It wasn’t really a hearing anyway. It was a presentation. Completely one-sided with nobody to offer any other interpretation. Using heavily edited and cherry-picked sound bites and video portions.
It was a show trial.
Any “conservative” or “Republican” who supported it is an enemy of America.
Does that sound extreme? Good. Because what happened yesterday was a Soviet-era show trial. And those who support it are basically commies.
From the DC Guard’s website:
Seems that the Mayor does have input here. He saying that she didn’t want the Guard deployed would definitely be part of the equation. I suspect that had Congress or the Capital Police really wanted them, then they would still have been deployed.
I went short-hand in light of my previous comments. I find it VERY unlikely Trump committed crimes. I could be wrong, but I find it doubtful.
Yet his dereliction of duty (my words) on the 6th I believe to have been impeachable. I don’t think impeachable offenses need to be criminal, and that there appears to be clear evidence that Trump refused to act on the 6th and that he approved of the mob’s actions. To me, this is sufficient for removal from office.
Sorry–I didn’t mean she has no input. Rather, she “requests”, but the Sec. of the Army must “approve”. She is not the decisionmaker.
Monkey pox!
This bears repeating.
And of course, the FBI was not even present, so they couldn’t do anything, either.
You forget that it was an armed insurrection. They just forgot to read the memo to bring their arms.
Boy, they almost pulled off taking over the US government, though, didn’t they. They alone were capable of cleaning out the entrenched US federal bureaucracy, but they missed it be thiiiis much.
Palatable? This show trial is because of unpalatable behavior?
This was heck of a tame insurrection then. :)
Not present where? Among the rioters? We now know there were at least 20 federal agents embedded with the riots. I’ve seen other articles suggesting the number was closer to 60.
Where were they? What were they doing? What was their role? Who is Ray Epps?
The feds won’t say.
The story presented by the extremely-partisan show trial last night was a twisted and distorted picture of the events of that day — twisted to fit a Narrative.
Stalin would be proud.
Yeah, there MAY have been, in some minds, a healthy amount… What does this even mean in light of the show trial that purports to present evidence?
As I said elsewhere, the point of this show trial is to disqualify Trump from running in 2024. They tried it with Cawthorn, but he lost the primary so it is a wash. They tried with MTG and failed. These pond scum have nothing else.
I think it’s worth distinguishing hyperbole from what is/may be verifiable facts. Just because the US government was not close to being taken over, or just because there was not a coordinated “armed insurrection” does not mean that President Trump fulfilled his constitutional duties. Several things can be true at once.
For weeks, President Trump riled up his supporters. A very small number of those supporters, hoping to stop the Congressional action on the 6th, mobilized to action. I have seen no evidence Trump participated in this.
However, Trump was still president when the Capitol was breached and he did nothing for hours and he (apparently, behind the scenes) approved of the mob. He also (apparently) approved of those calling for Pence’s hanging. If all this is true (and we’ll see if the testimony bears it out), he should have been removed from office as soon as possible. It’s a disgusting dereliction of duty. No, the government was not on the brink of collapse. But the president behaved very, very badly that day (at the least). We should not shy away from admitting that.
It was all so horrific and end-of-the-republic stuff that this cop basically acts a tour guide for Buffal0-Hat-Guy.
Everyone’s just so chill. Even the guy who’s like “Oh, hey man, can I get some help? I’ve been shot in the face.”
Sorry. I thought the sarcasm was clear. I deliberately took out the next sentence because I thought it would be too provocative: “Oh, that’s right, the FBI was running the unindicted coconspirators.”
I thought so, . . .
I say let’s wait to see what testimony comes forth. I’m focusing on one aspect–Trump’s behavior–because many on this site seem dead set on ignoring his (allegedly, but probably provable) egregious behavior and statements from the 6th.
It’s also worth knowing who and why an organized group breached the Capitol building. It appears that the vanguard of the breach was organized, while much of the rest was more spontaneous. This is worth knowing about, and defense of Trump or hatred for Democrats should not impede that.
I get it–it’s a show, a production. I hate that part too. I also don’t trust the Democrats to honestly want to seek the full truth. But to be honest, I wouldn’t trust diehard Trump supporters to desire the full truth either.
Much appears to have gone wrong on the 6th, and if it turns out Trump was one of the malefactors, so be it. We shouldn’t put confidence in “princes”, as the psalmist puts it. Trump is a very flawed man whose flaws especially stood out in the waning days of his administration.
And look what’s trending on Twitter.
Not quite what they were hoping for, is it?
Because we don’t agree with you.
I remember when someone criticized the lack of response from central Florida churches to the Trayvon Martin shooting (oh! That was my bishop…)
My response was “because it was a good shoot.”
His response was the churches don’t care about injustice against blacks.
You sound like the guy who used to be my bishop.
I’d like to know how much Trump listened to those to head cases Powell and Wood. What did they try to convince him to do? I’d also like to hear answers to the eight questions from the pjmedia article. Odds on that?
As far as Trump’s flaws are concerned, adversity reveals the true nature of all things. From what has been verified about his behavior, he’s no worse than most.
I was doing VBS last night. And then I came home and watched Heathers after finding out no one else was really watching it, either. Oh, except the guys who find Nancy and CNN credible.
Thanks for the response, but I don’t see the comparison. Donald Trump was still president when the Capitol was breached. He had a duty to act. Not only did he refuse to act for hours, he (apparently) approved of the mob action. How is that like a generalized statement that churches (generally) should have done “something” about the Trayvon Martin shooting? Honestly–I don’t see how they’re the same.
I agree re: the pjmedia questions. Perhaps if the Republicans take the House in November, then the Jan. 6 inquiry will be expanded to include other important questions.
I think the biggest mistake Trump made in his presidency was not mobilizing the national guard during the summer 2020 riots.
you know what I learned then? He has no authority to do that without request.
I think you and Gary, while thinking Trump is an authoritarian, are pissed that he actually knows his role as president better than you two do.
For most of what the Democrats are alleging, you need actual actions and public statements.
“Behind the scenes support” for a mob or private discussions about hanging Pence (seems unlikely he was actually calling for the assassination of the VP) are really irrelevant. They may confirm your opinion that he is a jerk that you would not vote for, but that is about it.
None of the people in the mob, would have been privy to his personal thoughts or private conversations. This would have had no impact on the actions of the mob.
I don’t think you need to make this so personal. I never once said Trump is/was an authoritarian, and (in case it matters) I actually voted for him in 2020. I believe, in general, he demonstrated more restraint in using executive power than many of his predecessors.
However, that doesn’t exonerate his Jan. 6 behavior. Further, it appears he was asked for Guard help by the Capitol police, but that in the days leading up to the 6th, it was a cluster of epic proportions (h/t to the article linked to above by Jager (I think).
Regardless, it appears Trump had Guard at the ready, but refused to mobilize them for several hours. It took Pence to coordinate it. If this is true (which time will tell), then Trump was derelict in his duties.