Quote of the Day: Treachery in Our Times

 

“Destiny is a good thing to accept when it’s going your way. When it isn’t, don’t call it destiny; call it injustice, treachery, or simple bad luck.” –Joseph Heller

As Progressives continue to march forward and steamroller Leftist ideas onto the nation, they believe as they peer out from their enclaves that they are empowered by their zealotry and passion and their ability to silence the Right. Looking out from their bubbles, from coast to coast, they can ignore most of mainstream America and the mainstream media, and they have ignored, discounted, or covered over the cracks in their plans. From their standpoint, nothing and no one will stop them from meeting their agenda.

Until now.

Suddenly their powerful destiny has hiccupped. Their plans have morphed into rising inflation; grocery prices are climbing; gas prices are soaring. Crimes in our cities can no longer be ignored. Cities are being overrun by illegal migrants, not only on the border but across the country.

And, of course, they blame the racist, white supremacists who have taken aim at them by challenging the education system monolith and teachers’ unions, and a depraved curriculum; although Progressives are trying to deny these accusations against them, parents are discovering first-hand how they have been deceived and manipulated. The Left blames Vladimir Putin for our dire straits, the war in Ukraine, the MAGA crowd, and anyone else they can find in their sights. The Progressive passionate defense of legalized abortion has taken serious damage as well, as they try to defend killing babies, even at birth.

I have no doubt that the Progressives will continue to grab at excuses to justify their failed efforts. They are unwilling and unable to reflect on their actions because they believe their aims are noble and beyond refutation. They lie to themselves that they are working for the American people. The time is coming, especially as Republicans begin to push back, that the Progressives will need to find new excuses for their failures.

Will they call it the treachery of the Right, injustice playing out, or simple bad luck?

Or will they realize that they are facing a doomed destiny?

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  1. Rodin Member
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    Sadly I think things will get even uglier. Resolve. We must have immovable resolve to meet this. 

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  2. Stad Coolidge
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    Rodin (View Comment):

    Sadly I think things will get even uglier. Resolve. We must have immovable resolve to meet this.

    It’s already happening, as shown by the “mostly peaceful” protests outside the conservative Justices’ homes . . .

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  3. Percival Thatcher
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    It couldn’t possibly be due to their policies failing. They have Good Intentions™!

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  4. Bob Thompson Member
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    Susan Quinn: They are unwilling and unable to reflect on their actions because they believe their aims are noble and beyond refutation

    How is this? How this concept is thought to work in practice has never been explained satisfactorily to me. Well, let’s back up. The guiding principles of Judeo-Christian morality seem to operate in this manner and have actually proven themselves effective over time. Is it all in the mindset governing the view and understanding of human nature? The most difficult part of this to understand is why we don’t seem to be able to apply our successful human experience to get to the most effective result. We do pretty good at this in many instances. The missing religious element could be a difference. 

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  5. The Great Adventure Coolidge
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn: They are unwilling and unable to reflect on their actions because they believe their aims are noble and beyond refutation

    How is this? How this concept is thought to work in practice has never been explained satisfactorily to me. Well, let’s back up. The guiding principles of Judeo-Christian morality seem to operate in this manner and have actually proven themselves effective over time. Is it all in the mindset governing the view and understanding of human nature? The most difficult part of this to understand is why we don’t seem to be able to apply our successful human experience to get to the most effective result. We do pretty good at this in many instances. The missing religious element could be a difference.

    I would maintain that the average prole level progressive believes this, but the progressive leadership is focused on nothing but raw power.  They really don’t believe their aims are noble, and they don’t care.  As long as their power is increased, all is well.

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  6. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):
    Is it all in the mindset governing the view and understanding of human nature? The most difficult part of this to understand is why we don’t seem to be able to apply our successful human experience to get to the most effective result. We do pretty good at this in many instances. The missing religious element could be a difference. 

    Self-reflection is part of religion, but it can also be part of the human experience, Bob. The problem the for Left is that they don’t see their interconnectedness to everyone else, whether they agree with them or not. Plus reflection requires effort, and often theydon’t like what they discover. It’s so much easier to attack someone else and blame them for our problems.

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  7. Bob Thompson Member
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    The Great Adventure (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn: They are unwilling and unable to reflect on their actions because they believe their aims are noble and beyond refutation

    How is this? How this concept is thought to work in practice has never been explained satisfactorily to me. Well, let’s back up. The guiding principles of Judeo-Christian morality seem to operate in this manner and have actually proven themselves effective over time. Is it all in the mindset governing the view and understanding of human nature? The most difficult part of this to understand is why we don’t seem to be able to apply our successful human experience to get to the most effective result. We do pretty good at this in many instances. The missing religious element could be a difference.

    I would maintain that the average prole level progressive believes this, but the progressive leadership is focused on nothing but raw power. They really don’t believe their aims are noble, and they don’t care. As long as their power is increased, all is well.

    We need to get that average prole to spend some time gaining an understanding of Thomas Sowell’s works.

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  8. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    In their desperation, things may get a lot worse before they get better. But we must hold fast!

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  9. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    The Great Adventure (View Comment):
    They really don’t believe their aims are noble, and they don’t care.  As long as their power is increased, all is well.

    True. But they claim to their followers that they are noble, and they fall for it.

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  10. Bob Thompson Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    It’s so much easier to attack someone else and blame them for our problems.

    I agree with this but easier should not be what works, especially when it is nothing more than trash.

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  11. Bob Thompson Member
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    Treachery is the correct description. And “conspiracy” to achieve world dominance by methods essentially no different from those deployed by all dictators in past times  The one difference that actually makes this a conspiracy is the cooperative effort enlisted by the ruling class (business oligarchs) at the forefront and leading an openly visible worldwide effort, i.e. The Great Reset.

    Within the United States, we were almost done until Donald Trump miraculously prevailed in 2016. The “Deep State” and elite ruling class  completely revealed itself under this threat. The Covid Pandemic presented many suspicious elements but the “2000 Mules”  nationwide Democrat Party 2020 election fraud scheme is a total confirmation of the treachery humanity faces today. Republican Party complicity in all this makes this confrontation far from easy.

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  12. Percival Thatcher
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):
    Is it all in the mindset governing the view and understanding of human nature? The most difficult part of this to understand is why we don’t seem to be able to apply our successful human experience to get to the most effective result. We do pretty good at this in many instances. The missing religious element could be a difference.

    Self-reflection is part of religion, but it can also be part of the human experience, Bob. The problem the for Left is that they don’t see their interconnectedness to everyone else, whether they agree with them or not. Plus reflection requires effort, and often theydon’t like what they discover. It’s so much easier to attack someone else and blame them for our problems.

    Their self-reflection starts and ends with “I am a good person.” There’s not a lot of room for growth there.

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  13. Doug Kimball Thatcher
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    At some point they will realize that their support lies in an embittered, angry few.  These are not intellectuals or moralists.  They are single issue extremists, wed to their particular cause, seeking alliance with others so that they may win their issue.  And there is nothing new here either.  Abortion has long been cited as the sole source of liberty within the extreme end of the feminist movement.  Since it is biologically and morally abhorrant, it was always going to be a fringe belief.  Yet they insist on it on the same bankrupt grounds I heard fifty years ago, got a Supreme Court decision to enshrine it as sancrosanct and now, it will be sent back to the states.

    How on earth does this belief in man made global warming persist?  Evidence piles up in opposition.  Dire predictions fail to materialize.  And yet, this issue has become the rallying cry of the Gaia set.

    Then there are the antiracist folks who see the hand of white supremacy everywhere, actively destroying the lives of non-Aryans.  And don’t get me going on the confused and perverted.  There was a time when decency insisted on keeping our private acts and proclivities behind the bedroom door.

    The Democrat Party has become indecent, now hosts only nutcases, caters to them, fuels their rage.  And America is starting to find all this angst intolerable.  We’re tired of being told that we are the problem, have inherited guilt and must repair and repent.  We find it foolish to judge our forbears; we know that they were human, flawed no doubt, but they weren’t evil.  Most of them were just struggling to find happiness.

    But worse than that, Democrats (in concert with many Republicans) are fiscally irresponsible and their policies, driven by stupidity and a lack of common sense, designed not to do what is best for America but what is expedient in cementing their power, wealth and influence, are destructive to our republic and our collective moral soul.  We may not be a Christian nation as we do not have a national church, but our nation was built upon the moral and ethical ideas of classical liberalism, that is the Judeo-Christian moral code of individual worth and liberty.

    In America, you can be a nutcase and call us names if you want.  We will still love you and protect your right to protest.   But don’t be surprised when we disagree and vote to move our country in another direction.

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  14. Bob Thompson Member
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    I keep coming back to this post because I’m really trying to get to an understanding of how the Left can achieve the power base they seem to operate from when so many positions they support have such weak or non-existent foundation. I do have a sense that much has been achieved by the takeover of our public education system the expansion of that effect into our higher education components including the financial aspects and Democrat Party dominance in major urban areas. Has the Left just basically been successful during this time convincing our young that all government controlled outcomes are good and that corruption does not affect that essence?

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  15. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Doug Kimball (View Comment):
    The Democrat Party has become indecent, now hosts only nutcases, caters to them, fuels their rage.  And America is starting to find all this angst intolerable.  We’re tired of being told that we are the problem, have inherited guilt and must repair and repent.  We find it foolish to judge our forbears; we know that they were human, flawed no doubt, but they weren’t evil.  Most of them were just struggling to find happiness.

    Your entire comment is excellent, Doug, but I think citizens are catching on to the lies and distortions that promote their agenda. And everyone is getting very, very tired of it.

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  16. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Doug Kimball (View Comment):
    In America, you can be a nutcase and call us names if you want.  We will still love you and protect your right to protest.   But don’t be surprised when we disagree and vote to move our country in another direction.

    Saying we love them might be a stretch for me. But I will protect their right to protest.

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  17. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    I keep coming back to this post because I’m really trying to get to an understanding of how the Left can achieve the power base they seem to operate from when so many positions they support have such weak or non-existent foundation. I do have a sense that much has been achieved by the takeover of our public education system the expansion of that effect into our higher education components including the financial aspects and Democrat Party dominance in major urban areas. Has the Left just basically been successful during this time convincing our young that all government controlled outcomes are good and that corruption does not affect that essence?

    Bob, remember that this brainwashing has been going on a long time. When people are propagandized, it’s hard not to give in when everyone else is going along.

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  18. Jim McConnell Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Doug Kimball (View Comment):
    In America, you can be a nutcase and call us names if you want. We will still love you and protect your right to protest. But don’t be surprised when we disagree and vote to move our country in another direction.

    Saying we love them might be a stretch for me. But I will protect their right to protest.

    I love them because I am commanded to do so, but in some cases I must do it through clenched teeth.

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  19. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    There are a myriad of examples of how the elites of the Progressives have betrayed their people. Chuck Schumer is sponsoring a bill to codify Roe at the federal level even though abortion law will go back to the states. The bill is much more radical than Roe, which betrays the American people, many who want choice but would be appalled if they knew a baby could be aborted just before birth. The arrogance of the elites, who don’t know and don’t care what American want, is sickening.

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  20. Percival Thatcher
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Doug Kimball (View Comment):
    In America, you can be a nutcase and call us names if you want. We will still love you and protect your right to protest. But don’t be surprised when we disagree and vote to move our country in another direction.

    Saying we love them might be a stretch for me. But I will protect their right to protest.

    We Christians are supposed to. Some of them present greater challenges than others.

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  21. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Percival (View Comment):
    We Christians are supposed to. Some of them present greater challenges than others.

    I’m going to look into the “loving your neighbor”; I’m not sure that we (Jews) are literally called to love someone, especially if that person is evil.

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  22. Stad Coolidge
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):
    We Christians are supposed to. Some of them present greater challenges than others.

    I’m going to look into the “loving your neighbor”; I’m not sure that we (Jews) are literally called to love someone, especially if that person is evil.

    You can still love someone, but hold them at arm’s length . . .

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  23. The Great Adventure Coolidge
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    Stad (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):
    We Christians are supposed to. Some of them present greater challenges than others.

    I’m going to look into the “loving your neighbor”; I’m not sure that we (Jews) are literally called to love someone, especially if that person is evil.

    You can still love someone, but hold them at arm’s length . . .

    Or further

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  24. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Jim McConnell (View Comment):
    I love them because I am commanded to do so, but in some cases I must do it through clenched teeth.

    Jim, I checked with @iwe for this thoughts on the subject of loving your neighbor, particularly if the person is a bad person, even evil, and here’s his answer to me:

    “You try to understand them. That is the goal – understand them as you understand yourself. If you can see things from their perspective, it helps bridge the gap.”

    I think if someone has hurt you personally, you can choose to forgive and eventually love that person again, but that is a process. (I do realize you were presenting the Christian perspective, and thanks!)

    Also, I think the questions @bobthompson asked on this post–why the Left acts as they do–moves us in the direction of trying to understand them. 

     

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  25. I Walton Member
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    The crazies  charge ahead, say what they think works  on any given day and don’t appear to  believe they will face critical election losses.  They may just be crazy, but ordinary democrats are mostly quiet so they don’t seem to think they’re crazy.  Indeed, ordinary democrats behave as if  their interests are linked.  What that tells me is that there will be massive fraud and they think they’ll still come out on top; not in every state nor every district just key districts and states and the White House.  Then with 4 more years they’ll seal the deal, stack the court, end the Republic.   Are any states prepared for this, what ever the probability, it isn’t zero or anywhere near zero.

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  26. Ray Gunner Coolidge
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    Susan Quinn: I have no doubt that the Progressives will continue to grab at excuses to justify their failed efforts. They are unwilling and unable to reflect on their actions because they believe their aims are noble and beyond refutation.

    There is an analytical defect built into Progressivism that blinds the Progressive to viewing the negative effects of his policies (overdose deaths; open borders; inflation; collapsing middle class; geopolitical vulnerability) as failures of progressive policy.  It is right there in their self-flattering slogans:  “We are on the Right Side of History,”  “the Arc of History Bends Towards Justice.”   That leaves Progressives without the capacity to self-correct.  So, to the progressive, progressive policy failures are never really “failures.”  They are just so many broken eggs going into the Great Progressive Omelet they promise is coming up if only we lousy conservatives would get with the program and hand them total, uncheckable power to regiment our lives.  So the way they see it, until we conservatives hand them total power, everything is our fault. 

     

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  27. kedavis Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Doug Kimball (View Comment):
    In America, you can be a nutcase and call us names if you want. We will still love you and protect your right to protest. But don’t be surprised when we disagree and vote to move our country in another direction.

    Saying we love them might be a stretch for me. But I will protect their right to protest.

    Too often, people think the right to protest includes the right to get their way.

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  28. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Ray Gunner (View Comment):
    They are just so many broken eggs going into the Great Progressive Omelet they promise is coming up if only we lousy conservatives would get with the program and hand them total, uncheckable power to regiment our lives.  So the way they see it, until we conservatives hand them total power, everything is our fault. 

    A very interesting take, Ray. Thanks.

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  29. kedavis Member
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    Ray Gunner (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn: I have no doubt that the Progressives will continue to grab at excuses to justify their failed efforts. They are unwilling and unable to reflect on their actions because they believe their aims are noble and beyond refutation.

    There is an analytical defect built into Progressivism that blinds the Progressive to viewing the negative effects of his policies (overdose deaths; open borders; inflation; collapsing middle class; geopolitical vulnerability) as failures of progressive policy. It is right there in their self-flattering slogans: “We are on the Right Side of History,” “the Arc of History Bends Towards Justice.” That leaves Progressives without the capacity to self-correct. So, to the progressive, progressive policy failures are never really “failures.” They are just so many broken eggs going into the Great Progressive Omelet they promise is coming up if only we lousy conservatives would get with the program and hand them total, uncheckable power to regiment our lives. So the way they see it, until we conservatives hand them total power, everything is our fault.

    And if they were given total power, what excuse would they give for continuing to fail?

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  30. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    kedavis (View Comment):
    And if they were given total power, what excuse would they give for continuing to fail

    They’d just keep blaming us.

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