Tulsi Gabbard… Almost Conservative

 

Well, at least more conservative than David French, Bill Kristol, Spencer Cox, or Mitt Romney. Granted, she’s pro-abortion, pro-gun control, and believes in the dogma of Climate Change. But Mitt Romney embraced all those things as the “severely conservative” governor of Massachusetts. Bill Kristol embraces all of those things now through his emphatic embrace of Joe Biden, Terry McAuliffe, and the Democrat Party. Romney and Kristol also support Biden’s radical leftist, CRT-embracing, child pornographer accommodating Supreme Court Justice pick.

David French finds it off-putting that conservatives are hanging Democrats for the latter’s embrace of sexualizing young children.  Utah Governor Spencer Cox is all-in on supporting the LGBT political agenda. Gabbard, on the other hand, is in adamant disagreement

When I first heard about Florida’s Parental Rights bill, I was shocked it only protects children K-3. Third grade? How about 12th grade—or not at all. Meanwhile, schools are failing: 1 in 4 graduates is functionally illiterate. Parents should raise their kids, not the government.

Wow. I can think of few if any elected Republicans with the guts (or principles) to put it like that. Well done. She’s also hanging out the Biden/Obama/Harris admin for their reckless border policy. (A policy Republicans will fundraise on, but refused to support the alternative when Trump was president.)

Biden/Harris open-border policy has been a disaster. Rescinding Title 42 will make the massive flood of immigrants even worse. Main beneficiaries are gangs, cartels & human traffickers. Trump policy of having people wait on other side of the border worked & needs to be reinstated.

And some people say, “Hey, you can’t trust her, she’s still a lib.” Yeah, probably so. But it’s worth noting that a lib is staking out conservative positions while allegedly “principled conservative” Republicans are consistently backstabbing us.

By the way, Arizona Senator Kyrsten Sinema is still a “no” on Biden’s latest ‘Build Back Better’ scheme. Sinema and Joe Manchin have done more to stop Bidenism than any Republican senator (with the possible exception of Tom Cotton) and certainly more than any Conservatism, Inc pundit. So, I offer this K-POP song in tribute.

Yeee, I have one of those shirts.

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  1. kedavis Coolidge
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    Nathanael Ferguson (View Comment):

    She is still pretty much in alignment with most leftist dogma, but she is an intellectually honest liberal along the lines perhaps of Barri Weiss or Glenn Greenwald. I could see her fitting in the next Trump administration in a narrowly defined role where her level of authority in public policy converges with her more conservative views. I don’t know the full width and breadth of her views on public education, but based on the little I have heard maybe she would be a candidate for Secretary of Education in the second Trump administration.

    But don’t we think the Department of Education should be abolished?

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  2. Annefy Member
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    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):
    I trust Tulsi more than I do Romney . . .

    I trust her more than… pick literally any Republican in Congress.

    Agreed. I don’t agree with Tulsi even close to 100%, but I do think she’s honest.

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  3. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Plus Betsy DeVos was a great Secretary of Education, and could be again.

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  4. MarciN Member
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    lowtech redneck (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):

    Is it possible that the Supreme Court nominee Jackson is not necessarily protecting pedophiles but rather, advocating for people who might have been wrongly accused or that the accusations were exaggerations in some way? Is it possible that David French is doing the same? Is it possible that there has been a troubling witch hunt aspect to some of these cases? I haven’t read Jackson’s testimony nor have I read any more of David French’s opinion on it than his recent tweet. I’m just wondering about it. I’ve lost a lot of confidence in David’s political judgment over the past two years, but being soft on pedophiles seems very uncharacteristic to me.

    Through Dorothy Rabinowitz’s series in the Wall Street Journal years ago, I followed the case of false accusations in the Malden, Massachusetts, daycare Amirault case and also the case of Father Gordon MacRae.

    Any time a case can be sensationalized, there is an opening for injustice.

    My understanding is that her leniency did not only apply to specific cases, but across the board with respect to this category of offence.

    Okay. Thank you. 

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  5. Victor Tango Kilo Member
    Victor Tango Kilo
    @VtheK

    So, no one is going to comment on the great KPop song Kyrsten Sinema should use as her entrance music?

    • #35
  6. DrewInWisconsin, Oik! Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oik!
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    So, no one is going to comment on the great KPop song Kyrsten Sinema should use as her entrance music?

    KPop? Is that a breakfast cereal?

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  7. GFHandle Member
    GFHandle
    @GFHandle

    MarciN (View Comment):

    Through Dorothy Rabinowitz’s series in the Wall Street Journal years ago, I followed the case of false accusations in the Malden, Massachusetts, daycare Amirault case and also the case of Father Gordon MacRae.

    Any time a case can be sensationalized, there is an opening for injustice.

    And the the satanic abuse hysteria seems to have set the stage for wokeness hysteria today. Someone quipped recently that America was not founded in 1649 but when the first Salem witch trials started. We have that strain in us. As for French, I have not kept up with him. But when I did, I took him to be a libertarian and a lawyer and some kind of Protestant. I imagine that for him Trump is just another big spending Washington type, with a bit of immoral character thrown in. And I can see why he would prefer local school boards rather than State reps to decide school matters. I disagree, given where we are, but I can see it.

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  8. GFHandle Member
    GFHandle
    @GFHandle

    Nathanael Ferguson (View Comment):
    she is an intellectually honest liberal along the lines perhaps of Barri Weiss or Glenn Greenwald

    James Kirchuck ironically agrees about Greenwald. He has never opposed Putin. In the March Spectator Kirchuck’s article “The Right’s Favorite Leftist” ends by asserting that Greenwald, contra the left, has NOT changed, that is anti-Ukraine, pro Putin position is consistent with who he has always been: “a sincere enemy of liberal democracy, and a genuine lickspittle for tyrants.” 

    But Kirchuck would actually think Greenwald is not think intellectually honest when he compares the U.S. to the Nazis: “all you have to do is look at a map or history of how Russia was almost twice destroyed in the twentieth century to see the crucial importance of Ukraine for Russia.” As Kirchuck points out, the U.S. is not threatening any country in the Western  hemisphere with invasion, let alone annexation. And the comparison of NATO with Nazi German implied in that remark is not intellectually honest–unless your really do believe the U.S. is an evil empire.  

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  9. DrewInWisconsin, Oik! Member
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    GFHandle (View Comment):
    unless your really do believe the U.S. is an evil empire.  

    I’m thisclose.

    But of course, I think the country upon which we visit our evils is our own.

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  10. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oik! (View Comment):

    GFHandle (View Comment):
    unless your really do believe the U.S. is an evil empire.

    I’m thisclose.

    But of course, I think the country upon which we visit our evils is our own.

     I would love to see the United States acting as evil as it’s constantly being accused of and see the world power and quake in fear at the true might of the United States of America unleashed in the sort of imperialism.

     That would serve the rest of the world that seems to hate us no matter what we do right. Give them what they want which is for the United States to be the ultimate evil in the world.

     I remember West German students complaining that the United States had missiles on their territory defending them against the Soviet Union. Here the United States was willing to put its very existence on the line to stop the Soviet Union from invading West Germany and these students weren’t happy about it. Those are the same people in power now. Maybe what we should have done is told the Soviet Union we’re gonna pull all of our troops out just give us a chance and then you can just take Germany because they don’t seem to like us anyway and I don’t wanna soldier up to you.

     

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  11. DrewInWisconsin, Oik! Member
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    @DrewInWisconsin

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik! (View Comment):

    GFHandle (View Comment):
    unless your really do believe the U.S. is an evil empire.

    I’m thisclose.

    But of course, I think the country upon which we visit our evils is our own.

    I would love to see the United States acting as evil as it’s constantly being accused of and see the world power and quake in fear at the true might of the United States of America unleashed in the sort of imperialism.

    Here you go:

     

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  12. kedavis Coolidge
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    @kedavis

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik! (View Comment):

    GFHandle (View Comment):
    unless your really do believe the U.S. is an evil empire.

    I’m thisclose.

    But of course, I think the country upon which we visit our evils is our own.

    I would love to see the United States acting as evil as it’s constantly being accused of and see the world power and quake in fear at the true might of the United States of America unleashed in the sort of imperialism.

    That would serve the rest of the world that seems to hate us no matter what we do right. Give them what they want which is for the United States to be the ultimate evil in the world.

    I remember West German students complaining that the United States had missiles on their territory defending them against the Soviet Union. Here the United States was willing to put its very existence on the line to stop the Soviet Union from invading West Germany and these students weren’t happy about it. Those are the same people in power now. Maybe what we should have done is told the Soviet Union we’re gonna pull all of our troops out just give us a chance and then you can just take Germany because they don’t seem to like us anyway and I don’t wanna soldier up to you.

     

    And same with South Korea, of course.  If their “students” think they don’t need protection, let them prove it.

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  13. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik! (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik! (View Comment):

    GFHandle (View Comment):
    unless your really do believe the U.S. is an evil empire.

    I’m thisclose.

    But of course, I think the country upon which we visit our evils is our own.

    I would love to see the United States acting as evil as it’s constantly being accused of and see the world power and quake in fear at the true might of the United States of America unleashed in the sort of imperialism.

    Here you go:

     

     

    You forgot “challenge accepted!”  :-)

    • #43
  14. DrewInWisconsin, Oik! Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oik!
    @DrewInWisconsin

    kedavis (View Comment):

    You forgot “challenge accepted!” :-)

    I could also point out how we’re treating political prisoners. The deliberate destruction of our economy. Our twisted legal system. The increasingly horrific situation on our southern border. . .

    • #44
  15. James Lileks Contributor
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    lowtech redneck (View Comment):

    Heh.  Its relevant to MarciN’s question, though; Jackson is not a left-wing version of Pickering, nor are her objections to the laws limited to the post-incarceration aspects of sentencing*, she simply believes that these kinds of offenders do not deserve long prison sentences.

    And Romney, Murkowski, and National Review are apparently fine with that.

    National Review in the last few days:

    Baseball Crank: There Are Legitimate Questions about Jackson’s Views on Sex Offenders

    Editors: No on Ketanji Brown Jackson

    Kevin Williamson: Against Judge Jackson

    Thomas Jipping: “Jackson’s sentences in all three categories of child-pornography crimes were significantly more lenient than other federal judges. In fact, in more than half of her child-pornography-distribution cases, Jackson did not add a single day to the mandatory-minimum sentence already imposed by Congress.

    “The other thing we know is that her record regarding child pornography is larger than her sentences in these cases. . . . When it comes to child-pornography crimes, Jackson’s record includes downplaying their seriousness followed by a consistent pattern of lenient sentences. . . . Such a blindspot is especially disturbing since all categories of child-pornography crimes inflict ongoing, often life-long, harm on children.”

    • #45
  16. Nathanael Ferguson Contributor
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    @NathanaelFerguson

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Nathanael Ferguson (View Comment):

    She is still pretty much in alignment with most leftist dogma, but she is an intellectually honest liberal along the lines perhaps of Barri Weiss or Glenn Greenwald. I could see her fitting in the next Trump administration in a narrowly defined role where her level of authority in public policy converges with her more conservative views. I don’t know the full width and breadth of her views on public education, but based on the little I have heard maybe she would be a candidate for Secretary of Education in the second Trump administration.

    But don’t we think the Department of Education should be abolished?

    So long as it exists, someone has to run it. 

    • #46
  17. Nathanael Ferguson Contributor
    Nathanael Ferguson
    @NathanaelFerguson

    GFHandle (View Comment):

    James Kirchuck ironically agrees about Greenwald. He has never opposed Putin. In the March Spectator Kirchuck’s article “The Right’s Favorite Leftist” ends by asserting that Greenwald, contra the left, has NOT changed, that is anti-Ukraine, pro Putin position is consistent with who he has always been: “a sincere enemy of liberal democracy, and a genuine lickspittle for tyrants.” 

    But Kirchuck would actually think Greenwald is not think intellectually honest when he compares the U.S. to the Nazis: “all you have to do is look at a map or history of how Russia was almost twice destroyed in the twentieth century to see the crucial importance of Ukraine for Russia.” As Kirchuck points out, the U.S. is not threatening any country in the Western  hemisphere with invasion, let alone annexation. And the comparison of NATO with Nazi German implied in that remark is not intellectually honest–unless your really do believe the U.S. is an evil empire.  

    I am unfamiliar with James Kirchuck and I have no idea what Greenwald’s views on Russia/Ukraine are so I have no frame of reference to understand the meaning of your comment. 

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  18. lowtech redneck Coolidge
    lowtech redneck
    @lowtech redneck

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    lowtech redneck (View Comment):

    Heh. Its relevant to MarciN’s question, though; Jackson is not a left-wing version of Pickering, nor are her objections to the laws limited to the post-incarceration aspects of sentencing*, she simply believes that these kinds of offenders do not deserve long prison sentences.

    And Romney, Murkowski, and National Review are apparently fine with that.

    National Review in the last few days:

    Baseball Crank: There Are Legitimate Questions about Jackson’s Views on Sex Offenders

    Editors: No on Ketanji Brown Jackson

    Kevin Williamson: Against Judge Jackson

    Thomas Jipping: “Jackson’s sentences in all three categories of child-pornography crimes were significantly more lenient than other federal judges. In fact, in more than half of her child-pornography-distribution cases, Jackson did not add a single day to the mandatory-minimum sentence already imposed by Congress.

    “The other thing we know is that her record regarding child pornography is larger than her sentences in these cases. . . . When it comes to child-pornography crimes, Jackson’s record includes downplaying their seriousness followed by a consistent pattern of lenient sentences. . . . Such a blindspot is especially disturbing since all categories of child-pornography crimes inflict ongoing, often life-long, harm on children.”

    Fair enough, change National Review to McCarthy.

    • #48
  19. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oik! (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik! (View Comment):

    GFHandle (View Comment):
    unless your really do believe the U.S. is an evil empire.

    I’m thisclose.

    But of course, I think the country upon which we visit our evils is our own.

    I would love to see the United States acting as evil as it’s constantly being accused of and see the world power and quake in fear at the true might of the United States of America unleashed in the sort of imperialism.

    Here you go:

     

     Not that kind of evil Drew.  I want to see the bombing anyone that looks at this cockeyed type of evil.

    • #49
  20. Roderic Coolidge
    Roderic
    @rhfabian

    Victor Tango Kilo: David French finds it off-putting that conservatives are hanging Democrats for the latter’s embrace of sexualizing young children.

    French objects to the use of the term “groomers” to describe progressives who want children to know about trans people, gay people, etc.  He appears to think that there’s a fundamental difference between those who want to teach children these things and those who intend sexual predation. “Groomer” ought to apply only to the latter, and it’s insulting and divisive to apply that term to others.

    This misses the point that such subjects are not fit material for the very young. 

    If progressives want to die on that hill….

    • #50
  21. DrewInWisconsin, Oik! Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oik!
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Roderic (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo: David French finds it off-putting that conservatives are hanging Democrats for the latter’s embrace of sexualizing young children.

    French objects to the use of the term “groomers” to describe progressives who want children to know about trans people, gay people, etc. He appears to think that there’s a fundamental difference between those who want to teach children these things and those who intend sexual predation. “Groomer” ought to apply only to the latter, and it’s insulting and divisive to apply that term to others.

    This misses the point that such subjects are not fit material for the very young.

    If progressives want to die on that hill….

    It also misses the point that introducing kindergarten children to sex, the intimate details thereof, destroying their notions of gender and rebuilding those ideas in a way to normalize sexual deviancy — and keep it a secret from their parents — is pretty much the definition of grooming.

    • #51
  22. Clifford A. Brown Member
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    @CliffordBrown

    lowtech redneck (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):

    Is it possible that the Supreme Court nominee Jackson is not necessarily protecting pedophiles but rather, advocating for people who might have been wrongly accused or that the accusations were exaggerations in some way? Is it possible that David French is doing the same? Is it possible that there has been a troubling witch hunt aspect to some of these cases? I haven’t read Jackson’s testimony nor have I read any more of David French’s opinion on it than his recent tweet. I’m just wondering about it. I’ve lost a lot of confidence in David’s political judgment over the past two years, but being soft on pedophiles seems very uncharacteristic to me.

    Through Dorothy Rabinowitz’s series in the Wall Street Journal years ago, I followed the case of false accusations in the Malden, Massachusetts, daycare Amirault case and also the case of Father Gordon MacRae.

    Any time a case can be sensationalized, there is an opening for injustice.

    My understanding is that her leniency did not only apply to specific cases, but across the board with respect to this category of offence.

    Her leniency, indeed her solicitude, applied both to specific cases, and across the board with respect to this category of offence. Senators Hawley and Cruz gave us and all the other senators the receipts on camera. This started during her time in law school, according to Senator Cruz.

    • #52
  23. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    lowtech redneck (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):

    Is it possible that the Supreme Court nominee Jackson is not necessarily protecting pedophiles but rather, advocating for people who might have been wrongly accused or that the accusations were exaggerations in some way? Is it possible that David French is doing the same? Is it possible that there has been a troubling witch hunt aspect to some of these cases? I haven’t read Jackson’s testimony nor have I read any more of David French’s opinion on it than his recent tweet. I’m just wondering about it. I’ve lost a lot of confidence in David’s political judgment over the past two years, but being soft on pedophiles seems very uncharacteristic to me.

    Through Dorothy Rabinowitz’s series in the Wall Street Journal years ago, I followed the case of false accusations in the Malden, Massachusetts, daycare Amirault case and also the case of Father Gordon MacRae.

    Any time a case can be sensationalized, there is an opening for injustice.

    My understanding is that her leniency did not only apply to specific cases, but across the board with respect to this category of offence.

    Her leniency, indeed her solicitude, applied both to specific cases, and across the board with respect to this category of offence. Senators Hawley and Cruz gave us and all the other senators the receipts on camera. This started during her time in law school, according to Senator Cruz.

    Maybe it was actually a smart move to get her off a court where she’s actually determining sentencing and such?

    • #53
  24. Flicker Coolidge
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    @Flicker

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik! (View Comment):

    Roderic (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo: David French finds it off-putting that conservatives are hanging Democrats for the latter’s embrace of sexualizing young children.

    French objects to the use of the term “groomers” to describe progressives who want children to know about trans people, gay people, etc. He appears to think that there’s a fundamental difference between those who want to teach children these things and those who intend sexual predation. “Groomer” ought to apply only to the latter, and it’s insulting and divisive to apply that term to others.

    This misses the point that such subjects are not fit material for the very young.

    If progressives want to die on that hill….

    It also misses the point that introducing kindergarten children to sex, the intimate details thereof, destroying their notions of gender and rebuilding those ideas in a way to normalize sexual deviancy — and keep it a secret from their parents — is pretty much the definition of grooming.

    I’m not disagreeing, but just out of curiosity, does kindergarten education include pictures?  If not, how do we know that the education stops at the teachers’ words alone?

    • #54
  25. Stina Member
    Stina
    @CM

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik! (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    You forgot “challenge accepted!” :-)

    I could also point out how we’re treating political prisoners. The deliberate destruction of our economy. Our twisted legal system. The increasingly horrific situation on our southern border. . .

    Bryan seems to be looking at the external projection of evil empire.

    While the US is engaged in some soft version of imperialism (through importation of nations), the evil that the US is engaged in seems to be directed at its own native population.

    • #55
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