A Revolution in France?

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I don’t have much to say about this other than, it is must-watch, even if you don’t understand French (as I don’t). You’ll get the gist and maybe even be tempted to stand up and sing La Marseillaise!

Transcript and more available at PowerLine from Steven Hayward.

Donald Trump is a patriot, but this Éric Zemmour fellow makes you long for a more … cultured leader. Someone who understands what it means in depth and breadth to be American. In any case, it looks like France is getting a new president. God bless them and bonne chance!

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  1. Western Chauvinist Member
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    6:14 AM EST ⋅ Dec 2, 2021

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    Phil Turmel (View Comment):
    Not seems. She has enthusiastically gone globalist. Go to her twitter and you’ll see that her current project is “Cosmopolitan Globalist”. At least she’s up front about it. Sigh. I miss the old Claire.

    Something of a joke, since the Jews were called “Rootless Cosmopolitans,” beholden to a supranational order, not true patriots.

    I don’t know about this guy, but I know the type. Sometimes they’re besotted by their own iconoclastic rep and the acclaim it brings (“Perhaps Dreyfus was guilty! I’m just asking questions”), and they have a moment when they bang the national tuning fork just right, and everyone feels the elemental resonance. They’re carried around for a while on the shoulders of people who knew nothing of them before, until they’re undone by some pesky intellectual or dogmatic itch they can’t help scratch in public. And then everyone looks for the next guy who made a great speech.

    @ Claire’s point about Beethoven is spot-on. As if Hector B wasn’t available? Set that thing to “March to the Scaffold,” and you’re up 10 points.

    Maybe Claire should run, since she knows so much better and has the pulse of the French people. . . 

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  2. Phil Turmel Inactive
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    6:15 AM EST ⋅ Dec 2, 2021

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    Phil Turmel (View Comment):
    Not seems. She has enthusiastically gone globalist. Go to her twitter and you’ll see that her current project is “Cosmopolitan Globalist”. At least she’s up front about it. Sigh. I miss the old Claire.

    Something of a joke, since the Jews were called “Rootless Cosmopolitans,” beholden to a supranational order, not true patriots.

    I don’t know about this guy, but I know the type. Sometimes they’re besotted by their own iconoclastic rep and the acclaim it brings (“Perhaps Dreyfus was guilty! I’m just asking questions”), and they have a moment when they bang the national tuning fork just right, and everyone feels the elemental resonance. They’re carried around for a while on the shoulders of people who knew nothing of them before, until they’re undone by some pesky intellectual or dogmatic itch they can’t help scratch in public. And then everyone looks for the next guy who made a great speech.

    @ Claire’s point about Beethoven is spot-on. As if Hector B wasn’t available? Set that thing to “March to the Scaffold,” and you’re up 10 points.

    Maybe Claire should run, since she knows so much better and has the pulse of the French people. . .

    LOL.

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  3. Phil Turmel Inactive
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    6:16 AM EST ⋅ Dec 2, 2021

    Barfly (View Comment):

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    Barfly (View Comment):
    but she’s no different now than ever.

    I strongly disagree. The Claire of today is unrecognizable compared to the Claire that wrote “Menace in Europe”. (On my bookshelf.) She had enough presence of mind to get out of Instanbul when the getting was good, but then ensconced herself in the ultimate bubble of lefty bubbles: the Parisian elite.

    It was all there – the basic fall (down, and to the left) was always evident in everything I saw from Claire. These things express themselves only opportunistically. If she was in a different environment, she’d be a different leftist. It’s in the person; it always is.

    I guess we’ll just have to disagree.

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  4. Hang On Member
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    6:28 AM EST ⋅ Dec 2, 2021

    genferei (View Comment):

    Don’t confuse Zemmour’s good ideas and entertaining provocations with the man himself. He also has some dodgy ideas and questionable connections. (Not nearly as dodgy or questionable as the frankly repellent Le Pen, of course.)

    Sadly Macron seems a shoe-in.

    But then Macron doesn’t have dodgy ideas or questionable connections? He’s been a minor disaster. 

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  5. Western Chauvinist Member
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    6:37 AM EST ⋅ Dec 2, 2021

    Hang On (View Comment):

    genferei (View Comment):

    Don’t confuse Zemmour’s good ideas and entertaining provocations with the man himself. He also has some dodgy ideas and questionable connections. (Not nearly as dodgy or questionable as the frankly repellent Le Pen, of course.)

    Sadly Macron seems a shoe-in.

    But then Macron doesn’t have dodgy ideas or questionable connections? He’s been a minor disaster.

    Such a weasel sucking up to Democrats and Biden while they tried to unseat Trump. And then shocked, SHOCKED, when Biden betrayed the French.

    How do you say, “idiot,” in French? (that’s actually one I know and it’s nice that it matches English so well. . .)

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  6. Hang On Member
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    6:45 AM EST ⋅ Dec 2, 2021

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Hang On (View Comment):

    genferei (View Comment):

    Don’t confuse Zemmour’s good ideas and entertaining provocations with the man himself. He also has some dodgy ideas and questionable connections. (Not nearly as dodgy or questionable as the frankly repellent Le Pen, of course.)

    Sadly Macron seems a shoe-in.

    But then Macron doesn’t have dodgy ideas or questionable connections? He’s been a minor disaster.

    Such a weasel sucking up to Democrats and Biden while they tried to unseat Trump. And then shocked, SHOCKED, when Biden betrayed the French.

    How do you say, “idiot,” in French? (that’s actually one I know and it’s nice that it matches English so well. . .)

    What it comes down to is do you kiss EU ass? For Claire and her ilk, the answer is definitely. Zemmour doesn’t, so he is the enemy so you throw at him everything you can including the ridiculous Beethoven thing. (Don’t these idiots know who controlled Bonn during Beethoven’s lifetime?) There’s a lot of chatter in the British press about Zemmour and the faultline follows the Brexit faultline 

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  7. Western Chauvinist Member
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    6:56 AM EST ⋅ Dec 2, 2021

    Hang On (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Hang On (View Comment):

    genferei (View Comment):

    Don’t confuse Zemmour’s good ideas and entertaining provocations with the man himself. He also has some dodgy ideas and questionable connections. (Not nearly as dodgy or questionable as the frankly repellent Le Pen, of course.)

    Sadly Macron seems a shoe-in.

    But then Macron doesn’t have dodgy ideas or questionable connections? He’s been a minor disaster.

    Such a weasel sucking up to Democrats and Biden while they tried to unseat Trump. And then shocked, SHOCKED, when Biden betrayed the French.

    How do you say, “idiot,” in French? (that’s actually one I know and it’s nice that it matches English so well. . .)

    What it comes down to is do you kiss EU ass? For Claire and her ilk, the answer is definitely. Zemmour doesn’t, so he is the enemy so you throw at him everything you can including the ridiculous Beethoven thing. (Don’t these idiots know who controlled Bonn during Beethoven’s lifetime?) There’s a lot of chatter in the British press about Zemmour and the faultline follows the Brexit faultline

    Not surprising. Globalists versus nationalists. I’m on the side of the nationalists. I want the French to Make France Great Again (MFGA?? doesn’t translate so well). 

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  8. Henry Castaigne Member
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    9:04 AM EST ⋅ Dec 2, 2021

    Barfly (View Comment):

    Phil Turmel (View Comment):

    Barfly (View Comment):
    but she’s no different now than ever.

    I strongly disagree. The Claire of today is unrecognizable compared to the Claire that wrote “Menace in Europe”. (On my bookshelf.) She had enough presence of mind to get out of Instanbul when the getting was good, but then ensconced herself in the ultimate bubble of lefty bubbles: the Parisian elite.

    It was all there – the basic fall (down, and to the left) was always evident in everything I saw from Claire. These things express themselves only opportunistically. If she was in a different environment, she’d be a different leftist. It’s in the person; it always is.

    I’m a bit worried that JPod and his commentary crew are all that way. Being in New York, you have to go to cocktail parties and be conscientious that everyone is wrong about everything all the time. 

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  9. Flicker Coolidge
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    10:25 AM EST ⋅ Dec 2, 2021

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Hang On (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Hang On (View Comment):

    genferei (View Comment):

    Don’t confuse Zemmour’s good ideas and entertaining provocations with the man himself. He also has some dodgy ideas and questionable connections. (Not nearly as dodgy or questionable as the frankly repellent Le Pen, of course.)

    Sadly Macron seems a shoe-in.

    But then Macron doesn’t have dodgy ideas or questionable connections? He’s been a minor disaster.

    Such a weasel sucking up to Democrats and Biden while they tried to unseat Trump. And then shocked, SHOCKED, when Biden betrayed the French.

    How do you say, “idiot,” in French? (that’s actually one I know and it’s nice that it matches English so well. . .)

    What it comes down to is do you kiss EU ass? For Claire and her ilk, the answer is definitely. Zemmour doesn’t, so he is the enemy so you throw at him everything you can including the ridiculous Beethoven thing. (Don’t these idiots know who controlled Bonn during Beethoven’s lifetime?) There’s a lot of chatter in the British press about Zemmour and the faultline follows the Brexit faultline

    Not surprising. Globalists versus nationalists. I’m on the side of the nationalists. I want the French to Make France Great Again (MFGA?? doesn’t translate so well).

    I try saying it and the mind and the tongue rebel.

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  10. Western Chauvinist Member
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    11:42 AM EST ⋅ Dec 2, 2021

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):
    I’m a bit worried that JPod and his commentary crew are all that way. Being in New York, you have to go to cocktail parties and be conscientious that everyone is wrong about everything all the time. 

    I’m not worried. That ship has sailed. Elitists gonna elite(ist). It’s what they do.

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  11. Hang On Member
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    3:51 PM EST ⋅ Dec 2, 2021

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Hang On (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Hang On (View Comment):

    genferei (View Comment):

    Don’t confuse Zemmour’s good ideas and entertaining provocations with the man himself. He also has some dodgy ideas and questionable connections. (Not nearly as dodgy or questionable as the frankly repellent Le Pen, of course.)

    Sadly Macron seems a shoe-in.

    But then Macron doesn’t have dodgy ideas or questionable connections? He’s been a minor disaster.

    Such a weasel sucking up to Democrats and Biden while they tried to unseat Trump. And then shocked, SHOCKED, when Biden betrayed the French.

    How do you say, “idiot,” in French? (that’s actually one I know and it’s nice that it matches English so well. . .)

    What it comes down to is do you kiss EU ass? For Claire and her ilk, the answer is definitely. Zemmour doesn’t, so he is the enemy so you throw at him everything you can including the ridiculous Beethoven thing. (Don’t these idiots know who controlled Bonn during Beethoven’s lifetime?) There’s a lot of chatter in the British press about Zemmour and the faultline follows the Brexit faultline

    Not surprising. Globalists versus nationalists. I’m on the side of the nationalists. I want the French to Make France Great Again (MFGA?? doesn’t translate so well).

    I try saying it and the mind and the tongue rebel.

    ‘Rendre la France grande encore’ doesn’t trip off your tongue?

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  12. Flicker Coolidge
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    6:29 PM EST ⋅ Dec 2, 2021

    Hang On (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Hang On (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Hang On (View Comment):

    genferei (View Comment):

    Don’t confuse Zemmour’s good ideas and entertaining provocations with the man himself. He also has some dodgy ideas and questionable connections. (Not nearly as dodgy or questionable as the frankly repellent Le Pen, of course.)

    Sadly Macron seems a shoe-in.

    But then Macron doesn’t have dodgy ideas or questionable connections? He’s been a minor disaster.

    Such a weasel sucking up to Democrats and Biden while they tried to unseat Trump. And then shocked, SHOCKED, when Biden betrayed the French.

    How do you say, “idiot,” in French? (that’s actually one I know and it’s nice that it matches English so well. . .)

    What it comes down to is do you kiss EU ass? For Claire and her ilk, the answer is definitely. Zemmour doesn’t, so he is the enemy so you throw at him everything you can including the ridiculous Beethoven thing. (Don’t these idiots know who controlled Bonn during Beethoven’s lifetime?) There’s a lot of chatter in the British press about Zemmour and the faultline follows the Brexit faultline

    Not surprising. Globalists versus nationalists. I’m on the side of the nationalists. I want the French to Make France Great Again (MFGA?? doesn’t translate so well).

    I try saying it and the mind and the tongue rebel.

    ‘Rendre la France grande encore’ doesn’t trip off your tongue?

    Not that.  How do you pronounce MFGA?

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  13. genferei Member
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    10:14 PM EST ⋅ Dec 2, 2021

    Hang On (View Comment):

    genferei (View Comment):

    Don’t confuse Zemmour’s good ideas and entertaining provocations with the man himself. He also has some dodgy ideas and questionable connections. (Not nearly as dodgy or questionable as the frankly repellent Le Pen, of course.)

    Sadly Macron seems a shoe-in.

    But then Macron doesn’t have dodgy ideas or questionable connections? He’s been a minor disaster.

    Macron’s technocratic manage-the-decline cosmopolitanism is terrible for France and the world, and his actual performance has been atrocious. I’m not saying don’t vote for Zemmour, I’m saying don’t fall in love with him. 

    But with the anti-Macron forces fractured, and the media and other parts of the establishment solidly behind him, it’s hard not to see Macron being re-elected. 

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  14. Hang On Member
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    5:53 AM EST ⋅ Dec 3, 2021

    genferei (View Comment):

    Hang On (View Comment):

    genferei (View Comment):

    Don’t confuse Zemmour’s good ideas and entertaining provocations with the man himself. He also has some dodgy ideas and questionable connections. (Not nearly as dodgy or questionable as the frankly repellent Le Pen, of course.)

    Sadly Macron seems a shoe-in.

    But then Macron doesn’t have dodgy ideas or questionable connections? He’s been a minor disaster.

    Macron’s technocratic manage-the-decline cosmopolitanism is terrible for France and the world, and his actual performance has been atrocious. I’m not saying don’t vote for Zemmour, I’m saying don’t fall in love with him.

    But with the anti-Macron forces fractured, and the media and other parts of the establishment solidly behind him, it’s hard not to see Macron being re-elected.

    I don’t fall in love with politicians. I’m not a Reagan fan boy or  Trump fan boy. I think your assessment may be right about Macron unless someone comes in to split the establishment. Will that be Valérie Pécresse?

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  15. Henry Castaigne Member
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    8:46 AM EST ⋅ Dec 3, 2021

    Hang On (View Comment):
    ‘Rendre la France grande encore’ doesn’t trip off your tongue?

    That sounds like a Taco with Brie in it.

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  16. David Foster Member
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    2:08 PM EST ⋅ Dec 3, 2021

    There have been a few comments here about some Bad Things in Zemmour’s background…would someone like to explain what those bad things are?

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  17. Phil Turmel Inactive
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    2:39 PM EST ⋅ Dec 3, 2021

    David Foster (View Comment):

    There have been a few comments here about some Bad Things in Zemmour’s background…would someone like to explain what those bad things are?

    Start with the link in Caryn’s comment #37.

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  18. David Foster Member
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    3:13 PM EST ⋅ Dec 3, 2021

    Phil Turmel (View Comment):

    Start with the link in Caryn’s comment #37.

    Thanks. Missed that it was a link…wish they would be automatically underlined or italicized.

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  19. Phil Turmel Inactive
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    3:39 PM EST ⋅ Dec 3, 2021

    David Foster (View Comment):

    Phil Turmel (View Comment):

    Start with the link in Caryn’s comment #37.

    Thanks. Missed that it was a link…wish they would be automatically underlined or italicized.

    They are both underlined and colored for me.

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  20. David Foster Member
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    3:53 PM EST ⋅ Dec 3, 2021

    Phil Turmel (View Comment):

    David Foster (View Comment):

    Phil Turmel (View Comment):

    Start with the link in Caryn’s comment #37.

    Thanks. Missed that it was a link…wish they would be automatically underlined or italicized.

    They are both underlined and colored for me.

    Probably depends on the browser.

     

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