Conservatives Keep Making the Same Mistakes

 

I have enormous respect for Powerline’s Paul Mirengoff. But he wrote an article today which had several statements with which I disagree. Which is fine, except that these are examples of common mistakes made by conservatives today, in my opinion, so I’m using his article simply as a means of pointing out these recurring errors.

The first recurring error is not made by conservatives, but by the media. And I don’t think it’s an error, it’s just a common technique used to cover for Democrat mistakes. After discussing the significant drop in President Biden’s popularity only eight months into his presidency, the news website FiveThirtyEight listed these possible explanations for his dismal poll numbers:  “the decline in Biden’s approval rating was never just about Afghanistan … it was also driven by the resurgent pandemic, dissatisfaction with the economy, or even natural post-honeymoon reversion to a mean that is more realistic in these polarized times.” Of course, when a Republican’s poll numbers drop, it’s because he’s an evil fool with destructive policies. But when a Democrat’s poll numbers drop, it’s, um, complicated.

Ok, fine. But then Mr. Mirengoff made a few points that I really think are common mistakes among conservatives. First of all, he hypothesizes that Mr. Biden won the presidential election by presenting himself as a moderate centrist. With the Democrat party’s surge to the left over the past 10-20 years, I find this unlikely. People know who Democrats are at this point. But regardless, Mr. Mirengoff then hypothesizes that as Mr. Biden continues to govern less like JFK and more like Vladimir Putin, he thinks that American citizens are likely to realize that they’ve made a horrible mistake, and will seek to fix it. When discussing Attorney General Merrick Garland’s infamous memo that told the FBI to view PTA mothers at school board meetings as domestic terrorists, Mr. Mirengoff even used the dreaded “straw that broke the camel’s back” metaphor:

And now, Biden wants federal law enforcement to come down on people who attend school board meetings to vigorously oppose his woke agenda. The Garland Justice Department, led by Biden’s signature “moderate,” wrote the memo ordering this crackdown on America’s parents.

Roger Kimball thinks the Garland memo might well be the straw that breaks the camel’s back. He writes:

The reaction to Garland’s memo has been quick and furious. Will this episode be the turning point, the straw that broke the back of President Ice Cream? Coupled with Biden’s response to the harassment of Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, who was followed into a public bathroom and filmed by shouting activists, maybe so.

I don’t understand the “straw that broke the camel’s back” argument.  How many of those have we had in the past few decades?  “That’s it!!!  They crossed a line now!  Nobody is going to put up with this!”  But then nothing changes.  Again.  Until the next outrage.  And then nothing changes.  Again.  And on and on and on…

Likewise, I don’t think people vote for Democrats expecting them to be centrists.  They know who Democrats are, and they vote for them.  Our voters are further left than they have been in the past.  And that’s it.

Next, Mr. Mirengoff wrote:

Biden’s other core campaign pitch was that he would “restore” competent governance. It too has been exploded. The Afghanistan debacle played a major role in the explosion, to be sure. But Biden also undermines the claim of competence on almost a daily basis with his rambling inability to speak coherently, remember names, and take questions. If he had performed that way in the debates, he would have lost to Trump.

I see a lot of mistakes in this paragraph.

First of all, describing the Biden administration as incompetent makes sense only from a conservative perspective.  From a leftist perspective, they have gotten a lot done.  It’s never enough, of course.  But it appears to me that The Biden Administration has been very competent at moving our country to the left as fast as possible.  This cannot be a shock to those who voted for Biden.  People elect Democrats to move our country to the left, and we are moving left very, very quickly.

Next, Mr. Mirengoff blames some of Mr. Biden’s problems on his dementia and even says that if his dementia had been more obvious in his debates with Mr. Trump, Biden would have lost the election. I really don’t think that’s true. I think that if Mr. Biden had died of a stroke three days before the election, he still would have received 81 million votes, or some reasonable number of votes more than whatever Trump got.

I don’t think Mr. Biden’s dementia is an issue.  And I don’t think that the last election was about Biden anyway.  Our government did not like being led by someone who was not one of them.  So our government replaced that person with someone of their own choosing.  The news media, the riots, the endless accusations of racism, the impeachments, social media, the FBI, the CDC, the educational establishment, Hollywood, maybe even actual voter fraud, and so on – the left did what it had to do to correct the error that the voters made in 2016.  It didn’t matter if Biden was coherent, and it still doesn’t.  The left wants a president who is a compliant Democrat – not a belligerent Republican.  Now, it’s all better.

After that, Mr. Mirengoff pointed out that Bill Clinton lost popularity early on as well, but became more popular after he moved back to the center a bit.  I hear this a lot, and I just can’t imagine Biden doing this.  First of all, I don’t think he’s running anything anyway, and he couldn’t change course if he wanted to.  Next, despite him planning his next campaign already, I’d be surprised if he ran again.  Although he might, I suppose.  But he is either a lame duck president right now, or his administration is being run by people other than him.  Either way, I don’t think that the example of Bill Clinton is relevant here.

Furthermore, as I mentioned, the American electorate has moved left.  Some of that move may be fraudulent, or perhaps it’s not.  But it doesn’t matter whether it’s fraudulent or not.  Biden won 81 million votes after not campaigning on no ideas, and he has no reason to suspect that his upcoming vote total will have anything to do with what he does or does not do.  He thinks he can do whatever he wants.  And he’s right.

Suppose he destroys Afghanistan, our economy, and our allies, and a bunch of other stuff – will the news media, Hollywood, the educational establishment, social media, and the government bureaucracies suddenly start to promote Republicans?  Of course not.  And as long as he has their support, he will win.

He is not going to lose their support, so he figures he can’t lose.  He’s probably right.

My respect for Mr. Mirengoff remains unchanged – he’s a brilliant analyst.  But I read these same ideas over and over, and I just don’t think there’s any reason to suspect that they might be true.

As I often say, I hope I’m wrong about this.

But I don’t think that President Biden is wrong.   He’s correct – he can do whatever he wants.  The polls don’t matter.

If the election was tomorrow, President Biden and his 44% approval rating would win 5 million more votes than whoever the Republicans nominate.  It doesn’t matter.  And he knows it.

Conservatives should recognize this fundamental truth.  You can’t fix a problem that you refuse to acknowledge.

Joe Biden doesn’t matter, and neither does his dementia.  Think about it – of the five men pictured in this article, which one had the least impact on the last presidential election?  The answer is obvious.

Plus, there is nothing that President Biden can do to suddenly convince voters that he is a leftist – that’s what they voted for anyway.  And if they didn’t vote for it, then their opinion doesn’t matter in any case.  Biden won’t be tacking to the center, and he probably couldn’t even if he wanted to.  Our government just replaced a president they didn’t like with one that they did – that is an earth-moving event, and an extraordinary precedent.  That fundamentally changes the relationship between the American citizen and the American government.

Robert Mueller – 2018 Time Person of the Year Runner Up

That’s the position we find ourselves in.  We need to find solutions.

Waiting for the mythical ‘moderate voter’ to wake up is not a solution.  Waiting for the mythical ‘moderate Democrat politician’ to wake up is not a solution.  Waiting for the mythical ‘nonpartisan government bureaucracies’ to wake up is not a solution.

I’m waiting for conservatives to wake up.  I hope that’s a solution.

We’ll see.

Or perhaps we won’t.

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  1. BDB Inactive
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    Roderic (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat:

    Our government just replaced a president they didn’t like with one that they did – that is an earth-moving event, and an extraordinary precedent. That fundamentally changes the relationship between the American citizen and the American government.

    That’s the position we find ourselves in. We need to find solutions.

    I don’t see that there is any hope for a solution given this take. Opinions of the sort that discount our democracy and imply that our votes don’t count, conspiracy theories, calls for abandoning the Republican Party, and on, on are no basis for any kind of effective solution.

    The last election wasn’t stolen. It turned out pretty much as could be expected. Trump just rubbed too many people the wrong way, especially people in the suburbs. Other Republicans did just fine, except for Georgia, which is another thing Trump screwed up.

    The next big election we have our votes will count and we can expect to win if we work it like we should.

    Okay, Boxer.

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  2. kedavis Coolidge
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    BDB (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    I hear from relatives and others that I should “save money,” don’t get those things now when you don’t need them!

    Right, because the money will be more valuable in the future, and in a pinch you can always eat it.

    Most of them have more space to stock up on things than I did in Phoenix, but not as much as I have now!

    Not that Spam Singles take a lot of space, but 32-roll packages of toilet paper are a different story.  I would actually like to have a spare fridge, freezer, washer, dryer, water heater…   And I have the space to do that without really even noticing.  But I can’t afford to.

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  3. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Roderic (View Comment):
    The next big election we have our votes will count and we can expect to win if we work it like we should.

    Until it’s stolen.

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  4. Randy Webster Inactive
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Supposedly, some Rolexes are going up in value because people are using them to move money around. I would think that silver rounds would be getting really hot pretty soon if that’s really an issue.

    That might work for a kind of “banking” but not for common currency since it wouldn’t let you buy something that is worth maybe 1/10th of a Rolex.

    It’s why I bought silver dollars.  I can cut them into bits if I need to.  Probably ought to save the kerf too.

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  5. kedavis Coolidge
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    Randy Webster (View Comment):

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    Supposedly, some Rolexes are going up in value because people are using them to move money around. I would think that silver rounds would be getting really hot pretty soon if that’s really an issue.

    That might work for a kind of “banking” but not for common currency since it wouldn’t let you buy something that is worth maybe 1/10th of a Rolex.

    It’s why I bought silver dollars. I can cut them into bits if I need to. Probably ought to save the kerf too.

    I wonder how many people these days know what “kerf” means, let alone the origins of terms such as “two bits” for 25 cents.

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  6. Randy Webster Inactive
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    kedavis (View Comment):

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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Supposedly, some Rolexes are going up in value because people are using them to move money around. I would think that silver rounds would be getting really hot pretty soon if that’s really an issue.

    That might work for a kind of “banking” but not for common currency since it wouldn’t let you buy something that is worth maybe 1/10th of a Rolex.

    It’s why I bought silver dollars. I can cut them into bits if I need to. Probably ought to save the kerf too.

    I wonder how many people these days know what “kerf” means, let alone the origins of terms such as “two bits” for 25 cents.

    I know what kerf means because I was a carpenter for 20 years, and it’s important to carpenters.  I try to educate people about bits as much as I can.

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  7. Percival Thatcher
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    kedavis (View Comment):

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    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Supposedly, some Rolexes are going up in value because people are using them to move money around. I would think that silver rounds would be getting really hot pretty soon if that’s really an issue.

    That might work for a kind of “banking” but not for common currency since it wouldn’t let you buy something that is worth maybe 1/10th of a Rolex.

    It’s why I bought silver dollars. I can cut them into bits if I need to. Probably ought to save the kerf too.

    I wonder how many people these days know what “kerf” means, let alone the origins of terms such as “two bits” for 25 cents.

    The Spanish dollar (dólar) had lines four lines stamped across it. The purpose of the lines was to allow dollars to be divided in order to make change. You could split a dólar into eight pieces, or eight bits. From this we get both “pieces of eight” and “eight bits” to a dollar. Two bits would be a quarter of a dollar, and still is.

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  8. The Reticulator Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

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    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Supposedly, some Rolexes are going up in value because people are using them to move money around. I would think that silver rounds would be getting really hot pretty soon if that’s really an issue.

    That might work for a kind of “banking” but not for common currency since it wouldn’t let you buy something that is worth maybe 1/10th of a Rolex.

    It’s why I bought silver dollars. I can cut them into bits if I need to. Probably ought to save the kerf too.

    I wonder how many people these days know what “kerf” means, let alone the origins of terms such as “two bits” for 25 cents.

    Web pages aren’t people, but a search for “kerf” yields a little over 4 million hits, while a search for “Rolex” yields 215 million hits. 

    A search for silver dollar “bits” (including the quote marks) yields 22.5 million hits.

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  9. Flicker Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

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    Flicker (View Comment):

    I haven’t read the comments yet (I just found this post by checking the Main Feed, which I do once or twice a day) but the recurring theme in many of Doc’s posts, and my take-away from this one is that twice he says that the government changed a president that they didn’t want for one that they did. This is the crux of where we are today: did Biden actually win the election? Was the Senate run-off in Georgia fair? Will the voters be represented in 2022? Have we already seen the coup? Is there anything really left to do?

    Stock up on canned food, toilet paper, everything else that’s going to become a lot more expensive and much more difficult to find.

    Just got back from the store. Got four large packs of TP. There five on the shelf but we didn’t want to get greedy. And beans, rice and spam, man.

    Over the past 14 months or so, I’ve gotten a lot of canned stuff, and others, such as the Spam “singles,” which were $1 for a long time and have now jumped to $1.30. I have at least 200 of them, so I got them for $60 less than it would cost to get the same thing now. IF I could get them at all: stores have been out of stock for a while.

    I hear from relatives and others that I should “save money,” don’t get those things now when you don’t need them!

    Silly relatives.

    Even aside from the inflation aspects, it’s been my lifestyle for quite a while – at least since becoming medically disabled, if not before – that I get things when they’re available, and when I can afford them. If I wait until I NEED them, they might be unavailable, unaffordable, or perhaps both.

    That’s pretty good. You’re what I’m sure we once called a survivalist, I think.

    I just heard that in Lithuania this couple doesn’t have a CoV pass and they just buy everything out of the trunks of cars in their neighborhood.

    I think the current term is “prepper” but I’m not quite that either. I don’t think it’s possible to do much surviving if the electric grid fails completely, for example. But issues like supply chain are different. So I keep some frozen food too.

    Yes, survivalist was the term forty and fifty years ago, but prepper took over about a ten or twenty years ago; I think it connotes millennial survivalists.  :)

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  10. Flicker Coolidge
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    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Supposedly, some Rolexes are going up in value because people are using them to move money around. I would think that silver rounds would be getting really hot pretty soon if that’s really an issue.

    That might work for a kind of “banking” but not for common currency since it wouldn’t let you buy something that is worth maybe 1/10th of a Rolex.

    It’s why I bought silver dollars. I can cut them into bits if I need to. Probably ought to save the kerf too.

    Buy a manual gold scale for accuracy in valuation of the chips.

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  11. Randy Webster Inactive
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Supposedly, some Rolexes are going up in value because people are using them to move money around. I would think that silver rounds would be getting really hot pretty soon if that’s really an issue.

    That might work for a kind of “banking” but not for common currency since it wouldn’t let you buy something that is worth maybe 1/10th of a Rolex.

    It’s why I bought silver dollars. I can cut them into bits if I need to. Probably ought to save the kerf too.

    Buy a manual gold scale for accuracy in valuation of the chips.

    If I just cut it into eighths it’ll be close enough for government work.

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  12. kedavis Coolidge
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Stock up on canned food, toilet paper, everything else that’s going to become a lot more expensive and much more difficult to find.

    Just got back from the store. Got four large packs of TP. There five on the shelf but we didn’t want to get greedy. And beans, rice and spam, man.

    Over the past 14 months or so, I’ve gotten a lot of canned stuff, and others, such as the Spam “singles,” which were $1 for a long time and have now jumped to $1.30. I have at least 200 of them, so I got them for $60 less than it would cost to get the same thing now. IF I could get them at all: stores have been out of stock for a while.

    I hear from relatives and others that I should “save money,” don’t get those things now when you don’t need them!

    Silly relatives.

    Even aside from the inflation aspects, it’s been my lifestyle for quite a while – at least since becoming medically disabled, if not before – that I get things when they’re available, and when I can afford them. If I wait until I NEED them, they might be unavailable, unaffordable, or perhaps both.

    That’s pretty good. You’re what I’m sure we once called a survivalist, I think.

    I just heard that in Lithuania this couple doesn’t have a CoV pass and they just buy everything out of the trunks of cars in their neighborhood.

    I think the current term is “prepper” but I’m not quite that either. I don’t think it’s possible to do much surviving if the electric grid fails completely, for example. But issues like supply chain are different. So I keep some frozen food too.

    Yes, survivalist was the term forty and fifty years ago, but prepper took over about a ten or twenty years ago; I think it connotes millennial survivalists. :)

    I’ve been trying to get what I can of what I think might be the hardest to get in the future.  I don’t think it’s realistic to have a multi-thousand-gallon water tank with the idea that water won’t be available.  I live in a small town, but it’s the “county seat” and so not subject to drying up and blowing away like many other small towns might.

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  13. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    Stad (View Comment):
    Again, I think Trump can win again, even DeSantis (Veep, perhaps).  But the governor’s got a bigger issue to deal with (his wife’s health), so maybe a Noem for Veep?  Haley?  Stad?

    Not Haley. She’s as backstabby as Sasse. Not a true conservative. She play-acts it well, but we can tell she’s acting.

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  14. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    Roderic (View Comment):

    The last election wasn’t stolen.  It turned out pretty much as could be expected. 

    Yes, you know, those rallies where Biden had six people — all of them reporters — that really showed the momentum he had.

    I know you don’t like hearing this, but the last election was stolen. Brazenly. There was even a huge article in Time magazine that explained how they did it.

    The next big election we have our votes will count and we can expect to win if we work it like we should.

    Panglossian nonsense.

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  15. Dr. Bastiat Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):
    I know you don’t like hearing this, but the last election was stolen. Brazenly. There was even a huge article in Time magazine that explained how they did it.

    Yep.  Here ya go.  From that right wing rag, Time Magazine…

    How the election was stolen.

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  16. kedavis Coolidge
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    I’ve also built up a 2-year supply of prescription medications.  I was already starting to do some of that, since it’s easier for me to afford them some months more than others, but early this year I was finding that Walmart and other pharmacies were out of what I needed to get, for months.  So I got the dr’s office to send my prescriptions to a couple different places as each one was out for a month or two.  Then I got them filled by ALL of them, when they could.  That got me past the initial problem, and started building a reserve.

    When I got my prescriptions renewed a couple months later, they were written for a total of a year, getting 3 months at a time.  And since I was having trouble getting them filled, I had the dr’s office send them to TWO pharmacies to make sure I could get them.  I’ve been getting them filled by both pharmacies, again, plus I’ve been able to use the previous ones for my daily needs.  So now I have 2-year inventories, and I can still get my current needs via another prescription.

    I will probably continue to increase the stockpile, since at some point even 2 years might not be enough.  But I can do that a month at a time, and be okay.

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  17. BDB Inactive
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    IMHO, “prepper” is not just the new “survivalist”, although there is definitely some of that. I think that there is a difference, although it may be that the original term migrated and now had necessitated been meaning be read into the original term.  
    I’m good with all of it.  
    Rule of 3. 

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  18. RufusRJones Member
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    Preppers send proper price signals to the market. It’s all good.

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  19. RufusRJones Member
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    Related to this is, there is no such thing as price gouging in an emergency. It’s the same thing. You will get more where it needs to go if you don’t crack down on it. 

    The only thing that should ever be illegal is creating an artificial shortage.

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  20. BDB Inactive
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Related to this is, there is no such thing as price gouging in an emergency. It’s the same thing. You will get more where it needs to go if you don’t crack down on it.

    The only thing that should ever be illegal is creating an artificial shortage.

    Also, Obama railed against “speculators” for his soaring gas prices.  Willful economic illiteracy, not appreciating that speculators suppress volatility and moderate (v.t.) availability.  They do so at risk, and for profit *when it works*.

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  21. RufusRJones Member
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    BDB (View Comment):
    Also, Obama railed against “speculators” for his soaring gas prices.  Willful economic illiteracy, not appreciating that speculators suppress volatility and moderate (v.t.) availability.  They do so at risk, and for profit *when it works*.

    I’m not fully up on this, but some markets get extremely volatile without speculators. All it does is create headaches and jack up costs. I think the agriculture ones are really bad in this sense. 

    Supposedly, the action in bitcoin is caused by not really having a robust futures and options market. 

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  22. kedavis Coolidge
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    BDB (View Comment):

    IMHO, “prepper” is not just the new “survivalist”, although there is definitely some of that. I think that there is a difference, although it may be that the original term migrated and now had necessitated been meaning be read into the original term.
    I’m good with all of it.
    Rule of 3.

    Preppers are just having extra food etc, maybe for a relatively short time following an earthquake or something.  Survivalists seem more like they believe they will be the only civilized people surrounded by cave-men.

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  23. kedavis Coolidge
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Related to this is, there is no such thing as price gouging in an emergency. It’s the same thing. You will get more where it needs to go if you don’t crack down on it.

    The only thing that should ever be illegal is creating an artificial shortage.

    Technically, couldn’t people who buy more than they currently need, because they’re concerned about future supplies, be accused of “creating an artificial shortage?”

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  24. RufusRJones Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Related to this is, there is no such thing as price gouging in an emergency. It’s the same thing. You will get more where it needs to go if you don’t crack down on it.

    The only thing that should ever be illegal is creating an artificial shortage.

    Technically, couldn’t people who buy more than they currently need, because they’re concerned about future supplies, be accused of “creating an artificial shortage?”

    *** NO *** 

    If they use up all of the slack in the supply chain, and even a little more, it sends signals. There is not going to be an ongoing shortage caused by one guy to make money.

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  25. kedavis Coolidge
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Related to this is, there is no such thing as price gouging in an emergency. It’s the same thing. You will get more where it needs to go if you don’t crack down on it.

    The only thing that should ever be illegal is creating an artificial shortage.

    Technically, couldn’t people who buy more than they currently need, because they’re concerned about future supplies, be accused of “creating an artificial shortage?”

    *** NO ***

    If they use up all of the slack in the supply chain, and even a little more, it sends signals. There is not going to be an ongoing shortage caused by one guy to make money.

    Great, tell that to the FBI when they haul you off for buying two bottles of bourbon instead of just one.  :-)

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  26. RufusRJones Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Related to this is, there is no such thing as price gouging in an emergency. It’s the same thing. You will get more where it needs to go if you don’t crack down on it.

    The only thing that should ever be illegal is creating an artificial shortage.

    Technically, couldn’t people who buy more than they currently need, because they’re concerned about future supplies, be accused of “creating an artificial shortage?”

    *** NO ***

    If they use up all of the slack in the supply chain, and even a little more, it sends signals. There is not going to be an ongoing shortage caused by one guy to make money.

    Great, tell that to the FBI when they haul you off for buying two bottles of bourbon instead of just one. :-)

    Under emergency conditions, I suppose some governments put the screws to businesses to limit purchases. 

    If you buy a bunch of needed supplies and drive them hundreds of miles into an emergency zone, they will get mad if you try to make money off of it. There is no point in doing that. Just let the corporations create goodwill public relations with it.

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    Related to this is, there is no such thing as price gouging in an emergency. It’s the same thing. You will get more where it needs to go if you don’t crack down on it.

    The only thing that should ever be illegal is creating an artificial shortage.

    Technically, couldn’t people who buy more than they currently need, because they’re concerned about future supplies, be accused of “creating an artificial shortage?”

    *** NO ***

    If they use up all of the slack in the supply chain, and even a little more, it sends signals. There is not going to be an ongoing shortage caused by one guy to make money.

    Great, tell that to the FBI when they haul you off for buying two bottles of bourbon instead of just one. :-)

    Under emergency conditions, I suppose some governments put the screws to businesses to limit purchases.

    If you buy a bunch of needed supplies and drive them hundreds of miles into an emergency zone, they will get mad if you try to make money off of it. There is no point in doing that. Just let the corporations create goodwill public relations with it.

    One of the best marketing things I’ve seen is when Budweiser etc send trucks of canned WATER in their labeled cans of course, into disaster areas.

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  28. RufusRJones Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Related to this is, there is no such thing as price gouging in an emergency. It’s the same thing. You will get more where it needs to go if you don’t crack down on it.

    The only thing that should ever be illegal is creating an artificial shortage.

    Technically, couldn’t people who buy more than they currently need, because they’re concerned about future supplies, be accused of “creating an artificial shortage?”

    *** NO ***

    If they use up all of the slack in the supply chain, and even a little more, it sends signals. There is not going to be an ongoing shortage caused by one guy to make money.

    Great, tell that to the FBI when they haul you off for buying two bottles of bourbon instead of just one. :-)

    Under emergency conditions, I suppose some governments put the screws to businesses to limit purchases.

    If you buy a bunch of needed supplies and drive them hundreds of miles into an emergency zone, they will get mad if you try to make money off of it. There is no point in doing that. Just let the corporations create goodwill public relations with it.

    One of the best marketing things I’ve seen is when Budweiser etc send trucks of canned WATER in their labeled cans of course, into disaster areas.

    Totally.

    You can Google for an article about a guy that bought a bunch of generators and was going to sell them for double. They arrested him. He drove hundreds of miles. Risked his own money and time. All he’s going to do is sell them to people that want them. This country is out of its mind.

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  29. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
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    Think about it. Before a hurricane why should there be any lines for anything except what you have to buy just-in-time like gasoline? Can the government do anything about this? No. So why punish supposed price gougers?

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  30. Terry Mott Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Related to this is, there is no such thing as price gouging in an emergency. It’s the same thing. You will get more where it needs to go if you don’t crack down on it.

    The only thing that should ever be illegal is creating an artificial shortage.

    Technically, couldn’t people who buy more than they currently need, because they’re concerned about future supplies, be accused of “creating an artificial shortage?”

    *** NO ***

    If they use up all of the slack in the supply chain, and even a little more, it sends signals. There is not going to be an ongoing shortage caused by one guy to make money.

    Great, tell that to the FBI when they haul you off for buying two bottles of bourbon instead of just one. :-)

    Under emergency conditions, I suppose some governments put the screws to businesses to limit purchases.

    If you buy a bunch of needed supplies and drive them hundreds of miles into an emergency zone, they will get mad if you try to make money off of it. There is no point in doing that. Just let the corporations create goodwill public relations with it.

    One of the best marketing things I’ve seen is when Budweiser etc send trucks of canned WATER in their labeled cans of course, into disaster areas.

    Totally.

    You can Google for an article about a guy that bought a bunch of generators and was going to sell them for double. They arrested him. He drove hundreds of miles. Risked his own money and time. All he’s going to do is sell them to people that want them. This country is out of its mind.

    Yep.  Better that no one have those generators than he make a profit on them.  Because compassion.

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