Killing Grandma in Florida (and Texas, Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee and Other Red States….)

 

So, the federal government has a contract to buy and distribute all of Regeneron’s dual monoclonal antibody treatment for COVID. Biden was beginning to look like a fool due to Ron DeSantis’ effective measures to make the treatment widely available, and now has curtailed shipments of Regeneron treatment to Florida and other red states, in effect, attempting to harm the citizens of those states by restricting access to effective treatment for COVID. Biden will ship the medicine to blue states that haven’t been using it aggressively and withhold it from red states that are using it. A supply of 70,000 doses requested by Florida was reduced to about 30,000 doses by Biden. Clearly an effective medication for treating (and preventing) COVID is being used politically by the President to harm his constituents in states that oppose him politically. Medical care is being made available (or unavailable) based on politics. Unity?  Not.

And of course, Biden is trying to do exactly what Democrats always accuse Republicans of doing–killing Grandma. Particularly if she votes Republican. Apparently, this is what Biden meant when he said he was going to get those Republican governors out of the way of his policies. Either by damaging them so greatly politically for opposing his policies, or killing their constituents that voted against him. Democrats of course think that Americans are brain dead and don’t realize what’s going on, or they think the media will cover for them and bamboozle Americans on this issue as on all the others.

The Democrat canard that Republicans want to kill Grandma should be buried by this move by Biden, but, alas, the Democrats will always and forever continue with the same preposterous canard when it suits them, regardless of the hypocrisy, cant, lies, obfuscation, etc., etc.

Fortunately Ron DeSantis, playing Road Runner to Biden’s Wile. E. Coyote, found a way around Biden’s order within 24 hours by directly contracting with Glaxo Smith Kline to purchase what appears to be a superior dual monoclonal antibody treatment.

Don’t be surprised if the FDA soon asks for the withdrawal of the Glaxo-Smith Kline product. Or issues an advisory against its use in treating COVID. Or the federal government forces GSK to sell all of its product to the federal government for Biden to dispense according to his political calculations.

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  1. Seawriter Contributor
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    Flicker (View Comment):
    This is clearly deliberate obfuscation.  And if I recall correctly she immediately changed the subject and called on someone else.  Very disingenuous.  Nearly opaque.

    Yes, but no mean tweets. That’s the important thing.

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  2. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    Seawriter (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):
    This is clearly deliberate obfuscation. And if I recall correctly she immediately changed the subject and called on someone else. Very disingenuous. Nearly opaque.

    Yes, but no mean tweets. That’s the important thing.

    I was really, really okay with the mean Tweets.

    As opposed to what we have now: a mean, nasty administration from top to bottom.

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  3. CACrabtree Coolidge
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    Annefy (View Comment):

    Nohaaj (View Comment):

    BodyBagBiden is a mean vindictive SOB

    I find this consistent with the few people I know on the left. Up until recently I’ve managed to maintain a few relationships, but I’m afraid the bridges are permanently burned.

    One person of my acquaintance (I think) mistakenly included me on an email. She was crowing that LA Sheriffs (with whom she has occasional interactions) now had to get vaxxed to keep their jobs. But she lamented that she would rather them all die.

    Not surprising.  Leftists love humanity but despise people.

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  4. kedavis Coolidge
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    Annefy (View Comment):

    Nohaaj (View Comment):

    BodyBagBiden is a mean vindictive SOB

    I find this consistent with the few people I know on the left. Up until recently I’ve managed to maintain a few relationships, but I’m afraid the bridges are permanently burned.

    One person of my acquaintance (I think) mistakenly included me on an email. She was crowing that LA Sheriffs (with whom she has occasional interactions) now had to get vaxxed to keep their jobs. But she lamented that she would rather them all die.

    LA as in Los Angeles, or Louisiana?

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  5. D.A. Venters Inactive
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    D.A. Venters (View Comment):
    She doesn’t specify what she means by “percentages” but she could easily be…

    Speculation, again. This isn’t the promised transparency. Here words, clearly begin with implication that each state will get the same percentage of the available vaccine. If there is some other mathematical or ethical construct, she’s not saying.

    And we shouldn’t have to rely on Press reports and cogitations and entrail readings (sorry for the hyperbole) of what pSaki is thinking or trying to communicate. This is a recorded event. No Press interpretation should be necessary to understand how the mAb will be distributed.

    This is clearly deliberate obfuscation. And if I recall correctly she immediately changed the subject and called on someone else. Very disingenuous. Nearly opaque.

    Here is an article with more detail: https://www.google.com/amp/s/fortune.com/2021/09/15/biden-shortage-covid-19-antibody-treatments-regeneron/amp/

    Again, if this is the plan, they are not equalizing the distribution. According to this article, Fl and TX will still get something like 31% of the supply, at least in the short term.

    I’m not defending the policy. I have no idea the best way to distribute monoclonal antibody treatments.  There may well be great avenues for criticizing the Biden admin here. 

    My point is only that claiming they’re deliberately trying to kill red staters is a line of argument the general public will find silly, unserious. Especially if they go to the trouble of looking into it in detail. 

    The older I get, the more value I see in credibility. I see more and more how much people, myself included, seem to base their decisions and gut reactions, even unconsciously, on credibility.  You see it so much in all kinds of legal cases, at every stage – not just for witnesses   on the stand but in the initial decisions on whether to bring a case, in the negotiations, in the relationship between the lawyers. 

    You see it all the time here on Ricochet – how problematic it is that the CDC or the media, or whatever, have lost so much credibility. They’ve been careless with it. 

    So, my plea to fellow conservatives is “Be Credible!” It sucks as a rallying cry, I admit, but in the long run it will pay dividends. 

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  6. Nanocelt TheContrarian Member
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    D.A. Venters (View Comment):

    I don’t claim to know anything, but isn’t there an obvious defense to this charge that Biden is trying to physically hurt political enemies? Which is: if the demand for this treatment is ramping up in other areas of the country, and supplies are currently insufficient to meet that demand, why should FL, AL, etc.. get to hoard them? Is there a fed government role in some apportioned distribution of life-saving treatments in this kind of situation? I’m not saying I agree with that necessarily, because if FL and AL had a better or wiser plan to deal with the pandemic, then maybe they should reap the benefit of that. I haven’t considered in thoroughly. My point is that, for the rest of the country, Biden acting to more evenly distribute the doses will seem very fair. It will not appear to them that he’s trying to kill people in red states. In fact, that argument, if it becomes the outrage of the week that everyone talks about, will be met with eye-rolls by most people, and will be giving Biden a w because he’ll be able to crow about how he was just trying to make sure the doses are fairly distributed, and the right looks unhinged (again).

    Biden is down. There’s no reason to help him. DeSantis should just brag about being able to do an end-run around the problem and procure additional treatments for his state and leave it at that. Keep the focus on his good governance.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    If the federal government were not demanding all of the product, there would be a capitalist response by the ramping up of production to meed demand, and rationing would not be necessary. Biden is imposing a fully socialized medical system regarding the Regeneron monoclonal antibody treatment. Fortunatlely, there still exists economic competition in America and GSK appears to have a superior product that is at present not subject to confiscation (purchase) by the federal government. Having the State of Florida purchase the product directly is currently a boon to Florida, but there is nothing inherently different about Florida purchasing all of the GSK product to distribute via government control. It would be better for DiSantis to request that GSK simply provide all the product ordered privately by pharmacies, clinics, hospital, etc. In my state of Georgia, or at least in my area, physicians and hospitals are apparently reluctant to administer the Regereon, and are following rather restrictive protocols, giving it outpatient with  a need to make appointments. The appointment schedules are backed up and it is hard for patients to get in within a even a week to get the infusion. Very slow, cumbersome, not good medical practice, de facto rationing of a highly promising treatment. Our medical care delivery system is breaking down, not for shortages or any reason other than the fact that the care is so stringently controlled by the government. 

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  7. Nanocelt TheContrarian Member
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    D.A. Venters (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    D.A. Venters (View Comment):

    I don’t claim to know anything, but isn’t there an obvious defense to this charge that Biden is trying to physically hurt political enemies? Which is: if the demand for this treatment is ramping up in other areas of the country, and supplies are currently insufficient to meet that demand, why should FL, AL, etc.. get to hoard them? Is there a fed government role in some apportioned distribution of life-saving treatments in this kind of situation? I’m not saying I agree with that necessarily, because if FL and AL had a better or wiser plan to deal with the pandemic, then maybe they should reap the benefit of that. I haven’t considered in thoroughly. My point is that, for the rest of the country, Biden acting to more evenly distribute the doses will seem very fair. It will not appear to them that he’s trying to kill people in red states. In fact, that argument, if it becomes the outrage of the week that everyone talks about, will be met with eye-rolls by most people, and will be giving Biden a w because he’ll be able to crow about how he was just trying to make sure the doses are fairly distributed, and the right looks unhinged (again).

    Biden is down. There’s no reason to help him. DeSantis should just brag about being able to do an end-run around the problem and procure additional treatments for his state and leave it at that. Keep the focus on his good governance.

    It was quick but it sounded like the reporter stipulated that supply was not an issue, and pSaki did not dispute it, but simply said that they were sharing everything equally, without explaining what “equally” meant. By state population? By case numbers? By vaccinated population? What.

    Apparently it will be determined by hospitalization and case rates, according to a Wash Post article I saw. So it won’t be equal. Just a quick google search will get all kinds of articles about the increased demand over the last month or so.

    Again, this is one of those things – the argument that Biden is trying to punish the red states- that’s really easy for ordinary independent voters to dispel. For those who are not already inclined to believe Biden is seriously evil (and most voters aren’t), this argument will look ridiculous. And without serious evidence, like a leaked recording of him saying something like, “Hey, let’s find a way to kill republicans,” this won’t convince them he’s evil, either.

    Unfortunately, even such a recording would not convince them. 

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  8. kedavis Coolidge
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    Nanocelt TheContrarian (View Comment):

    D.A. Venters (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    D.A. Venters (View Comment):

    I don’t claim to know anything, but isn’t there an obvious defense to this charge that Biden is trying to physically hurt political enemies? Which is: if the demand for this treatment is ramping up in other areas of the country, and supplies are currently insufficient to meet that demand, why should FL, AL, etc.. get to hoard them? Is there a fed government role in some apportioned distribution of life-saving treatments in this kind of situation? I’m not saying I agree with that necessarily, because if FL and AL had a better or wiser plan to deal with the pandemic, then maybe they should reap the benefit of that. I haven’t considered in thoroughly. My point is that, for the rest of the country, Biden acting to more evenly distribute the doses will seem very fair. It will not appear to them that he’s trying to kill people in red states. In fact, that argument, if it becomes the outrage of the week that everyone talks about, will be met with eye-rolls by most people, and will be giving Biden a w because he’ll be able to crow about how he was just trying to make sure the doses are fairly distributed, and the right looks unhinged (again).

    Biden is down. There’s no reason to help him. DeSantis should just brag about being able to do an end-run around the problem and procure additional treatments for his state and leave it at that. Keep the focus on his good governance.

    It was quick but it sounded like the reporter stipulated that supply was not an issue, and pSaki did not dispute it, but simply said that they were sharing everything equally, without explaining what “equally” meant. By state population? By case numbers? By vaccinated population? What.

    Apparently it will be determined by hospitalization and case rates, according to a Wash Post article I saw. So it won’t be equal. Just a quick google search will get all kinds of articles about the increased demand over the last month or so.

    Again, this is one of those things – the argument that Biden is trying to punish the red states- that’s really easy for ordinary independent voters to dispel. For those who are not already inclined to believe Biden is seriously evil (and most voters aren’t), this argument will look ridiculous. And without serious evidence, like a leaked recording of him saying something like, “Hey, let’s find a way to kill republicans,” this won’t convince them he’s evil, either.

    Unfortunately, even such a recording would not convince them.

    My benighted mother, for one, would be absolutely certain that the recording was faked by Trump.

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  9. Nanocelt TheContrarian Member
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    D.A. Venters (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    D.A. Venters (View Comment):
    She doesn’t specify what she means by “percentages” but she could easily be…

    Speculation, again. This isn’t the promised transparency. Here words, clearly begin with implication that each state will get the same percentage of the available vaccine. If there is some other mathematical or ethical construct, she’s not saying.

    And we shouldn’t have to rely on Press reports and cogitations and entrail readings (sorry for the hyperbole) of what pSaki is thinking or trying to communicate. This is a recorded event. No Press interpretation should be necessary to understand how the mAb will be distributed.

    This is clearly deliberate obfuscation. And if I recall correctly she immediately changed the subject and called on someone else. Very disingenuous. Nearly opaque.

    Here is an article with more detail: https://www.google.com/amp/s/fortune.com/2021/09/15/biden-shortage-covid-19-antibody-treatments-regeneron/amp/

    Again, if this is the plan, they are not equalizing the distribution. According to this article, Fl and TX will still get something like 31% of the supply, at least in the short term.

    I’m not defending the policy. I have no idea the best way to distribute monoclonal antibody treatments. There may well be great avenues for criticizing the Biden admin here.

    My point is only that claiming they’re deliberately trying to kill red staters is a line of argument the general public will find silly, unserious. Especially if they go to the trouble of looking into it in detail.

    The older I get, the more value I see in credibility. I see more and more how much people, myself included, seem to base their decisions and gut reactions, even unconsciously, on credibility. You see it so much in all kinds of legal cases, at every stage – not just for witnesses on the stand but in the initial decisions on whether to bring a case, in the negotiations, in the relationship between the lawyers.

    You see it all the time here on Ricochet – how problematic it is that the CDC or the media, or whatever, have lost so much credibility. They’ve been careless with it.

    So, my plea to fellow conservatives is “Be Credible!” It sucks as a rallying cry, I admit, but in the long run it will pay dividends.

    The article you link to indicates that Texas and Florida will get 31% of the supply. Prior to these rule changes, they were getting, and using,  70% of the supply. Other states weren’t so interested in using the treatment, it seems. So that is a reduction of about 40% in the portion of the supply going to the states most using the treatment. So even this article that seems “credible” supports my perspective that these red states are being harmed. Credibility seems to be lacking in this article. Perhaps you are preaching to the wrong congregation.

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  10. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    Nanocelt TheContrarian: Clearly an effective medication for treating (and preventing) COVID is being used politically by the President to harm his constituents in states that oppose him politically.

    This is a really, really, really big deal.

    If a foreign government attacked our supply chain of a life-saving therapy during a pandemic, that would be an act of war.

     

    This looks like and acts like and smells like an act of war against not only the people of the USA, but other industrialized nations here government officials are stand in’s for The WHO, and The UN.

    My mind can never get past the fact that even though in recent years, Congress carefully crafted legislation to allow for a quick re-designation for a drug being used safely for one or more health problems so the drug can be used for another condition, the CDC/NIH successfully managed to convince most doctors in the USA to avoid using HCQ to combat COVID.

    This banning of HCQ happened even though hundreds  of thousands of Americans have safely  taken HCQ against malaria while traveling, and/or for lupus and for rheumatoid arthritis.

    And also that a respected medical and science journal, The Lancet, allowed its journal pages to be used for the publication of a hit piece on HCQ that was based on a study so badly designed  that later on The Lancet retracted the article.

    Meanwhile doctors all over the developing world had minimal fatality rates among their patient population due to HCQ being an over the counter remedy mostly used for malaria. For instance, in Vietnam, until vaccines and their problems showed up, there were only 100 fatalities in a nation of 30 million people.

    Japan using HCQ protocols, favipiravir and C pap machines stood at 1/125ths of our fatalities as of Nov 7th 2020. There was a surge over the next 60 days, but evn so the final corpse count of Jan 9th 2021 was 4,400 people in a nation of 126 million.

    Of course, part of what the PTB wanted to have happen in 2020 occurred: Trump was ousted in a mail in election in the very year where 11 months earlier he had brought our society to re-gaining its former glittery  status as economic giant of the world.

    Trump Derangement System is still at work: many progressive vegans, whose life mission was never to put anything non-organic in their bodies, have now slammed themselves with two full jabs of spike proteins.

     

     

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