Everybody Must Get Stoned

 

Dylan almost had it right. Not everybody should be stoned, but there are people who deserve it:

The unnamed suspect reportedly opened fire on a group of partygoers in the early hours of Monday morning, killing one and injuring at least three others, KDFW-TV reported.

Following the shooting, the crowd reportedly chased down the suspect and began throwing gardening stones and landscaping bricks, fatally injuring the suspect.

The Sun reported that a local reporter quoting the Fort Worth Police Department said that “the crowd defended themselves with gardening stones, killing the gunman.”

Now, if you just glance at the link, you might think it was somewhere in the Middle East.  Try Texas . . .

Finally, I have this observation:

If stones are outlawed, only outlaws will have stones.

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  1. Seawriter Contributor
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    Don’t mess with Texas.

    From the article the bricks were thrown after the gunman started shooting at the pursuers. In Texas that qualifies as self-defense, and a proportional use of force. (Get hit in the right spot by a brick or paving stone and it is likely to be fatal. Real humans are a lot more fragile than the rubber humans you see on television and the movies getting beaten like a weight bag without suffering any real harm.) 

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  2. Stad Coolidge
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    Seawriter (View Comment):
    From the article the bricks were thrown after the gunman started shooting at the pursuers. In Texas that qualifies as self-defense, and a proportional use of force.

    Which is good for them.  I think there are still some states that have a “duty to retreat” clause in their self-defense laws . . .

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  3. Vance Richards Member
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    No one needs that many rocks. And pavers should be considered assault rocks.

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  4. Some Call Me ...Tim Coolidge
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    How very biblical.  At least he didn’t say, “Jehovah”.

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  5. Doctor Robert Member
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    ”Let he who is without a side arm, cast the first stone.”

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  6. DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) Coolidge
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    Stad (View Comment):
    I think there are still some states that have a “duty to retreat” clause in their self-defense laws . . .

    Personally, armed with a stone against a gun, I plan to retreat.   I am having a hard time picturing the scene, but I am pretty sure it required alcohol.  People are hanging out and drinking and somebody starts shooting into the crowd and the crowd responds with “Let’s get him!  Anybody got a stone?”

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  7. kedavis Member
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    DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):
    I think there are still some states that have a “duty to retreat” clause in their self-defense laws . . .

    Personally, armed with a stone against a gun, I plan to retreat. I am having a hard time picturing the scene, but I am pretty sure it required alcohol. People are hanging out and drinking and somebody starts shooting into the crowd and the crowd responds with “Let’s get him! Anybody got a stone?”

    Which suggests it was a “gun-free zone.”

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  8. Charlotte Member
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    How on earth was no one else at this party in Texas carrying??

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  9. Seawriter Contributor
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    Charlotte (View Comment):

    How on earth was no one else at this party in Texas carrying??

    Well, the dead shooter was. 

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  10. Clifford A. Brown Contributor
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    Charlotte (View Comment):

    How on earth was no one else at this party in Texas carrying??

    You should not carry while consuming alcohol: huge civil liability if not illegal, depending on the jurisdiction. Texas says intoxication and firearms carry do not mix, so anyone other than a designated driver is for carry at a party.

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  11. Charlotte Member
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    Seawriter (View Comment):

    Charlotte (View Comment):

    How on earth was no one else at this party in Texas carrying??

    Well, the dead shooter was.

    Hence the word “else”. 

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  12. Stad Coolidge
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    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Charlotte (View Comment):

    How on earth was no one else at this party in Texas carrying??

    You should not carry while consuming alcohol: huge civil liability if not illegal, depending on the jurisdiction. Texas says intoxication and firearms carry do not mix, so anyone other than a designated driver is for carry at a party.

    True.  If anything, the BAL for carrying a weapon is zero percent.

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