Smartphones Destroy Empathy

 

When I’m at a social event, I never tell anyone I’m a doctor, because I don’t want to talk about medicine when I’m trying to relax.  But we went to a party last night in our neighborhood here in Hilton Head, and all our friends of course know what I do for a living.  So Mrs. Jones comes up to me and says she hurt her shoulder, and it’s not getting better, and what should she do about it?  I couldn’t just glare at her and leave, because I was in her house drinking her Scotch.  So I politely listened to her complaints.

But I didn’t answer.  I just pointed across the room:  “Why don’t you go ask Bob?  He’s an orthopedic surgeon.  Surely he’d know more about this than me.  I’m just a humble primary care doc.”  Her face lit up, she thanked me, and she hustled right over to Bob, who had been enjoying her Scotch until that moment.  She started talking to him, he smiled at her, and then he looked across the room at me and gave me the stink eye.  I smiled and raised my glass to him.  I’m a giver.

There are a few reasons I deferred.  First of all, I really try to avoid giving medical advice to people who aren’t my patients.  I don’t know the case, I don’t know the background – that’s an easy way to say something stupid.  Second, it’s true, Bob would know more about this than me.  As it happens, her condition is one with which I have a lot of experience, and I probably could have answered her question.  But Bob is obviously more qualified.  And the third reason is that I try to avoid looking like a fool.  What if I answer, then she asks Bob, he gives a different answer, and I look like a fool?  No.  I try to avoid looking like a fool.  But then Tom came over, struck up a conversation with me, and proved that not everyone tries to avoid looking like a fool.

Tom is an airline pilot who has developed an interest in nutritional supplements, essential oils, acupuncture, and God knows what else.  At a party last year, he said that curing MS was easy by altering your diet and taking high dose vitamins or something, and that doctors knew this, and that they refused to use this cure because they couldn’t profit from it.

So, I inferred, apparently my job is to earn money by intentionally killing people.

I blew up in his face.  Great entertainment for everyone.  My wife guided me out the door.  Forcefully.  Holy crap I was angry.

I apologized to him the next time I saw him.  I don’t think he recognized what a profound insult that was to someone like me, who believes that he serves God by devoting his life to healing the sick.  Or at least doing the very best I can.  Tom was just chatting about his hobby.  To me, this is no hobby.

So I made nice, and we moved on.

On the other hand, the only way that Tom would not recognize what a profound insult that would be to me is that he lacks empathy.  He can’t see things from anyone’s perspective other than his own, so he didn’t realize that what seemed like a casual statement to him would come across as a vicious attack to me.  I’m sure he was surprised when I jumped down his throat.

If you lack empathy, other people become mysterious creatures.  ‘What’s wrong with these people?  Can’t they see the truth?’

Anyway, so Tom sits down next to me last night.  I immediately start saying to myself, over and over, “…don’tsayanythingdon’tsayanythingdon’tsayanything…” as Tom starts to talk.

He talked about COVID.  Now, if someone is a big enough conspiracy theorist to honestly believe that doctors are intentionally killing MS patients for profit, you can imagine what he thinks of the COVID mess.  He’s an anti-vaxxer, and he spent 30 minutes telling me the dangers of the COVID vaccines.

Now, these vaccines are new, and perhaps we’ll discover problems as we go forward.  I think they’re probably a good idea, but honestly I’m not really sure yet.  Just like on most other topics, the more I read the less I know for sure.  And I’ve read a lot on this topic.  It’s just too soon to say.  I think it will be years before we really know if the vaccines were a good idea.  I think they are.  Probably.  But we’ll see…

Which brings me back to my conversation with the lady with the bad shoulder.  I was reluctant to answer her question, because I knew there was someone in the room that knew more about it than me, and if he somehow became involved in our conversation, I might look stupid.  So I shut my trap and deferred to the guy who has spent his life studying the question at hand.

That was not Tom’s approach last night.  He sat right down next to someone who he knows does this for a living, and gives a 30-minute dissertation on something that he knows very little about.  An amateur telling an expert how to do his job.  And he seemed perfectly comfortable doing so.  Tom did not ask me a single question.  He lectured me.  About my field.  He wasn’t concerned about me publicly pointing out that he was wrong.  Because he knew he wasn’t wrong.  He believes.

Or, perhaps, he lacks sufficient empathy to understand that there may be perspectives other than his own which may have some validity.

It would be like me telling him how to fly a plane.  Ok, maybe I’ve flown a Cessna before.  Maybe I read about aviation as a hobby.  But he flies passenger jets for a living.  Why would I try to tell him how to fly a plane?  Why would that thought even cross my mind?  “You know what I’m going to do at this party?  I’m going to go over there and tell that pilot how to fly a plane.  This should be fun!”

Why would I do that?

As I sat there trying to be nice, it occurred to me that Tom wasn’t exactly lecturing to me.  He was preaching.  He was preaching with the confidence of someone preaching to the choir.  Because in his world, everyone is in the choir.  They all believe.  Which got me to thinking about smartphones and social media.

Tom may have been the only one in the room last year that actually believed that doctors intentionally kill people for profit.  And he was probably surprised that I reacted to his casual comment with such hostility.

He was surprised because he hangs out on websites that confirm his biases.  He’s the only one in the room who thinks that, but he can pull out his iPhone and instantly connect with a virtual room full of like-minded individuals.  And that’s where he lives.  So his occasional excursions out into the real world probably feel sort of odd.  ‘What’s wrong with these people?  Can’t they see the truth?’

Politics is getting more and more tribal and hostile because we’re no longer fellow Americans discussing tax policy or immigration laws or something.  We identify more and more with smaller and smaller subgroups online to such an extent that we’re losing the ability to communicate, and more importantly to empathize, with nearly anyone else.

So every debate just turns into a shouting match.  Even if it’s about something as boring as scientific research.

I’m convinced that Tom is a nice person, and he means well.  He’s just so far down some rabbit hole that he can’t even see out anymore.  That describes a lot of Americans, these days.

We’re losing the ability to see things from the perspective of others.  We’re losing empathy.

Is it possible that smartphones are destroying our society by destroying our empathy?  What if that’s true?  What should we do?

I love my smartphone.  I really do.  But I’m starting to think they’re dangerous.

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  1. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):
    Americans have the longest lifespan on the planet, and our lifestyle stinks.

    Don’t Japanese live longer than us?

    So do the Danes, I think.

    But if you ignore our deaths from inner city gun violence, we do have the longest life span on the planet. And it’s not that close.

    So if we could just get our teenage boys to stop shooting one another, we’d have the longest life span on the planet.

    I’m not so sure that we would crush the opposition. According to WebMD, the life expectancy of American males would rise by a year. Also, most gun violence is suicide though inner-city gun violence does seriously reduce the average life expectancy of Americans. 

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  2. Southern Pessimist Member
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    I am late to this conversation and I doubt if Dr. B will make it this far into the comments  but the best advice I got when I was begining my medical career was ” Never answer a medical question while you are standing up.” A good addition might be, especially if you are holding a glass of scotch. I made it a point that when I was a young pediatrician that if I was asked a question when I had already stood up to leave the room, I sat back down and thought carefully about the question. The last question is always the most important question and the very act of sitting down communicates as much as your answer does.

    That advice served me and my patients well.

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  3. Flicker Coolidge
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    Charlotte (View Comment):

    Jimmy Carter (View Comment):

    Susan in Seattle (View Comment):

    Quoting Pascal:

    “All of humanity’s problems stem from man’s inability to sit quietly in a room alone.”

    My favorite.

    99.99999% of all “problems” could be solved by telling someone, “It’s none of Yer damn business.”

    And whatever is left can be solved with WD-40 and/or duct tape.

    And coat hangers.

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  4. Vince Guerra Inactive
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    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):
    My insight is that I have no idea how any of this works.

    Ha. I appreciate those in the medical profession who are open to alternative ideas (which are usually just age-old wisdom) and don’t push more and more chemicals into the body. Drugs have their place (ibuprofen is a friend) but so do turmeric, and garlic, and pushups. 

    After an x-ray revealed a degenerated disk in my back my doctor gave me the medical options – surgery, steroid injections, etc…but after he explained the physics of the matter I asked him.

    “So if I develop a six pack all of this goes away?”

    “Yup.”

    Unfortunately, it’s hard to develop that six-pack when you eat tortillas almost every day. Taking turmeric is easier. 

     

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  5. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):
    My insight is that I have no idea how any of this works.

    Ha. I appreciate those in the medical profession who are open to alternative ideas (which are usually just age-old wisdom) and don’t push more and more chemicals into the body. Drugs have their place (ibuprofen is a friend) but so do turmeric, and garlic, and pushups.

    After an x-ray revealed a degenerated disk in my back my doctor gave me the medical options – surgery, steroid injections, etc…but after he explained the physics of the matter I asked him.

    “So if I develop a six pack all of this goes away?”

    “Yup.”

    Unfortunately, it’s hard to develop that six-pack when you eat tortillas almost every day. Taking turmeric is easier.

    Find yourself an Integrative Medicine MD. We have one for Little Miss Anthrope and Elder Chauvinist who’s been invaluable help both diagnostically and for treatment.

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  6. Randy Webster Inactive
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):
    My insight is that I have no idea how any of this works.

    Ha. I appreciate those in the medical profession who are open to alternative ideas (which are usually just age-old wisdom) and don’t push more and more chemicals into the body. Drugs have their place (ibuprofen is a friend) but so do turmeric, and garlic, and pushups.

    After an x-ray revealed a degenerated disk in my back my doctor gave me the medical options – surgery, steroid injections, etc…but after he explained the physics of the matter I asked him.

    “So if I develop a six pack all of this goes away?”

    “Yup.”

    Unfortunately, it’s hard to develop that six-pack when you eat tortillas almost every day. Taking turmeric is easier.

     

    When my son got shot in Iraq, the hole it blew in his leg was big enough they had to take a muscle out of his stomach to stuff into it.  The best he can ever do is a five-pack.  Though he does have a pretty impressive scar.

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  7. Vince Guerra Inactive
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):
    My insight is that I have no idea how any of this works.

    Ha. I appreciate those in the medical profession who are open to alternative ideas (which are usually just age-old wisdom) and don’t push more and more chemicals into the body. Drugs have their place (ibuprofen is a friend) but so do turmeric, and garlic, and pushups.

    After an x-ray revealed a degenerated disk in my back my doctor gave me the medical options – surgery, steroid injections, etc…but after he explained the physics of the matter I asked him.

    “So if I develop a six pack all of this goes away?”

    “Yup.”

    Unfortunately, it’s hard to develop that six-pack when you eat tortillas almost every day. Taking turmeric is easier.

    Find yourself an Integrative Medicine MD. We have one for Little Miss Anthrope and Elder Chauvinist whose been invaluable help both diagnostically and for treatment.

    We had a good one until Covid. Mrs Guerra can’t wear a mask due to respiratory issues – she tried once and ended up struggling for days afterward. Last summer she needed to see a heart specialist. Her doctor refused to give her a mask exemption for the specialist referral citing personal liability. That was the end of her. Fortunately the specialist agreed to a face shield, after much negotiating and zero advocacy from any doctors we checked with. Patient care seemed pretty low on the list of doctors priorities for us last year.

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  8. Graham Witt Coolidge
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    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):
    So if we could just get our teenage boys to stop shooting one another, we’d have the longest life span on the planet.

    BLM mission statement if black lives REALLY mattered

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  9. Vince Guerra Inactive
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    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):
    My insight is that I have no idea how any of this works.

    Ha. I appreciate those in the medical profession who are open to alternative ideas (which are usually just age-old wisdom) and don’t push more and more chemicals into the body. Drugs have their place (ibuprofen is a friend) but so do turmeric, and garlic, and pushups.

    After an x-ray revealed a degenerated disk in my back my doctor gave me the medical options – surgery, steroid injections, etc…but after he explained the physics of the matter I asked him.

    “So if I develop a six pack all of this goes away?”

    “Yup.”

    Unfortunately, it’s hard to develop that six-pack when you eat tortillas almost every day. Taking turmeric is easier.

     

    When my son got shot in Iraq, the hole it blew in his leg was big enough they had to take a muscle out of his stomach to stuff into it. The best he can ever do is a five-pack. Though he does have a pretty impressive scar.

    Man, I’d actually love to see that. Research, you know. 

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  10. Randy Webster Inactive
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):
    My insight is that I have no idea how any of this works.

    Ha. I appreciate those in the medical profession who are open to alternative ideas (which are usually just age-old wisdom) and don’t push more and more chemicals into the body. Drugs have their place (ibuprofen is a friend) but so do turmeric, and garlic, and pushups.

    After an x-ray revealed a degenerated disk in my back my doctor gave me the medical options – surgery, steroid injections, etc…but after he explained the physics of the matter I asked him.

    “So if I develop a six pack all of this goes away?”

    “Yup.”

    Unfortunately, it’s hard to develop that six-pack when you eat tortillas almost every day. Taking turmeric is easier.

     

    When my son got shot in Iraq, the hole it blew in his leg was big enough they had to take a muscle out of his stomach to stuff into it. The best he can ever do is a five-pack. Though he does have a pretty impressive scar.

    Man, I’d actually love to see that. Research, you know.

    He lives in Vegas.  So you’ll recognize him:

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  11. Eeyore Member
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    Bill Berg (View Comment):
    Pilots tend to be pretty competitive and competent people, as do doctors. Fighter pilots tend to be the most confident in piloting, surgeons in medicine.

    Many years ago, my father had to have major (for him) surgery. Routine according to the hospital. The surgeon was discussing the situation with the family and my recently-discharged Air Force brother leaned over and said to me “Fighter pilot eyes…”

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  12. Jules PA Inactive
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    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    Jules PA (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):
    Srsly, Basty, how come you never tell us those 5 Secrets?

    Next OP 🤗

    Right.

    I’ll get right on it…

    I can’t keep up. 

    I’m trying though. 😁

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  13. Clifford A. Brown Member
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    Dr. Bastiat:

    He was surprised because he hangs out on websites that confirm his biases.  He’s the only one in the room who thinks that, but he can pull out his iPhone and instantly connect with a virtual room full of like-minded individuals.  And that’s where he lives.  So his occasional excursions out into the real world probably feel sort of odd.  ‘What’s wrong with these people?  Can’t they see the truth?’

    Politics is getting more and more tribal and hostile because we’re no longer fellow Americans discussing tax policy or immigration laws or something.  We identify more and more with smaller and smaller subgroups online to such an extent that we’re losing the ability to communicate, and more importantly to empathize, with nearly anyone else.

    So every debate just turns into a shouting match.  Even if it’s about something as boring as scientific research.

    I’m convinced that Tom is a nice person, and he means well.  He’s just so far down some rabbit hole that he can’t even see out anymore.  That describes a lot of Americans, these days.

    We’re losing the ability to see things from the perspective of others.  We’re losing empathy.

    Before his economic theory, Adam Smith first developed his Theory of Moral Sentiments, grounded in empathy, meaning an ability to perceive one’s own actions through the eyes of others. If I say or do X, what is the expected internal response/ assessment/ feeling/ sentiment invoked in others? In this moment, we have keen perception of the likely reactions of the concentrated group that matters to us. Getting a hostile/negative response from people outside of our circle is actually an affirmation, a score we can tout to our group.

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